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Malachi better hope his stock is higher than projected here

Absurd. What's gained by teams telling kids and their agents they'll take them only to not?

If an NBA team tells you that, I'd take it as a pretty good sign. Not end all be all - but worth way more that what you're describing.

An Nba team might have 20 guys that they like, why do teams tell kids they like them, I don't know but it happens all the time.
 
There are no guarantees when it comes to the draft.

That's amazing. I've been off board for a few weeks and the hamster is still running on the wheel. Is that now 300 posts offering the same myopic point of view? 500? We all loved having Malachi on the roster but I promise life goes on. You need to move on too. #onetrickponyjustwonttire.
 
Briancuse said:
An Nba team might have 20 guys that they like, why do teams tell kids they like them, I don't know but it happens all the time.

It's a draft board. If they have Mali rated as the 15th best player and they have the 25th pick? Use your head.
 
Players usually make a jump from their freshman year, not everyone, but most players. If he isn't drafted in the first round, or he doesn't earn a 2nd contract, I think we can say he made the wrong decision.

I don't have a problem with your opinion but there are people here who would never say Malachi leaving was a "wrong decision". It's funny how people say Malachi leaving is "his decision". People are not claiming the decision is not his to make which is a really strange thing to argue. But people having an opinion about someone leaving CBB was a bad decision are somehow lower lifeforms. People are entitled to have opinions. I think everyone's opinion should be respected especially ones that differ from our own.
 
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The decision worked out poorly / wrongly if he does not go in the first round. But it was an acceptable decision for him to still make in my view.

I will not condemn him for taking that risk if that is the way it turns out. It's the disconnect between the way the NBA compensation and the NCAA wanting to keep playing the "Academic" charade (and refusing to let players get drafted and play in the NCAA) that will always lead to some top players rolling the dice

And his career is not done if he goes after the first. It just gets much harder for him compared to staying in college. Teams have less incentive to invest time in your career if you are not a first rounder, and you will now need to develop in full grind mode (D-League), In the NBA it only took "relative" maturity because there are players and coaches that will help lead you and keep you on path, even when you make some mistakes and are just a kid -- you just have to show that you are willing to learn.

To make it from the D-League or Europe as an undrafted early entry takes real maturity beyond your years.

Good luck to Malachi and I support his decision. Let's hope you get drafted in the first!!
 
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I don't have a problem with your opinion but there are people here who would never say Malachi leaving was a "wrong decision". It's funny how people say Malachi leaving is "his decision". People are not claiming the decision is not his to make which is a really strange thing to argue. But people having an opinion about someone leaving CBB was a bad decision are somehow lower lifeforms. People are entitled to have opinions. I think everyone's opinion should be respected especially ones that differ from our own.

Thats why we debate these topics, its fun, no one knows for sure whats going to happen. He could go in the lottery, maybe he gets drafted in the 2nd round, the mock drafts are all over the place on him.Everyone is entitled to their opinion, not sure why people need to call out others in a thread for no apparent reason.
 
I didn't read the whole thread, but I did see DX has him up to #31 (From #37 a few weeks ago). DX is who I trust the most in terms of general accuracy. So it's close.
 
Thats why we debate these topics, its fun, no one knows for sure whats going to happen. He could go in the lottery, maybe he gets drafted in the 2nd round, the mock drafts are all over the place on him.Everyone is entitled to their opinion, not sure why people need to call out others in a thread for no apparent reason.

People just don't like your opinion is the reason. But what I think is strange is the way they make ad hominem attacks on your posts all the time, in my opinion, is uncalled for and really not necessary.

I imagine if Malachi doesn't get drafted the first round, or drafted at all, he will be upset. At this point, I hope he does well in the draft. I really don't have any strong opinion about Malachi staying another year. However, really don't like the 1-and-done thing and I preferred it when CBB players staying 4 years was the norm. I just liked it better as fan when you can watch the same players over a number of years.
 
Briancuse said:
Thats why we debate these topics, its fun, no one knows for sure whats going to happen. He could go in the lottery, maybe he gets drafted in the 2nd round, the mock drafts are all over the place on him.Everyone is entitled to their opinion, not sure why people need to call out others in a thread for no apparent reason.

"If he isnt drafted in the first round, or he doesnt earn a 2nd contract, I think we can say he made the wrong decision."
 
People just don't like your opinion is the reason. But what I think is strange is the way they make ad hominem attacks on your posts all the time, in my opinion, is uncalled for and really not necessary.

I imagine if Malachi doesn't get drafted the first round, or drafted at all, he will be upset. At this point, I hope he does well in the draft. I really don't have any strong opinion about Malachi staying another year. However, really don't like the 1-and-done thing and I preferred it when CBB players staying 4 years was the norm. I just liked it better as fan when you can watch the same players over a number of years.

I think this "it's just my opinion" defense gets stretched a bit far. First, folks are just as entitled to have an opinion that another's opinion is illogical or mean spirited. Second, and particular to this topic, some of the opinions on this thread have been exactly that. I could provide multiple examples but will offer one - "we need to start recruiting kids who want to be here". That was actually written on this forum. In other words, Richardson is the wrong kind of person to recruit to Syracuse and we should not recruit people like him in the future. Whether that is someone's honest opinion or an immature reaction to something that did not go as they wished (ding ding ding) is besides the point. To me, that is illogical, mean spirited, and completely unfair to a great kid who represented Syracuse well on and off the court. I don't think immunity attaches bc someone claims that's just my opinion.
 
"If he isnt drafted in the first round, or he doesnt earn a 2nd contract, I think we can say he made the wrong decision."
Did I say that??

If not, feel free to put my name to it...

I think 1 of those 2, if not both...are likely in his future.
 
I think this "it's just my opinion" defense gets stretched a bit far. First, folks are just as entitled to have an opinion that another's opinion is illogical or mean spirited. Second, and particular to this topic, some of the opinions on this thread have been exactly that. I could provide multiple examples but will offer one - "we need to start recruiting kids who want to be here". That was actually written on this forum. In other words, Richardson is the wrong kind of person to recruit to Syracuse and we should not recruit people like him in the future. Whether that is someone's honest opinion or an immature reaction to something that did not go as they wished (ding ding ding) is besides the point. To me, that is illogical, mean spirited, and completely unfair to a great kid who represented Syracuse well on and off the court. I don't think immunity attaches bc someone claims that's just my opinion.

Interesting interpretation...I guess one could also conclude based upon your example that it's one of disappointment vs. "mean spirited," etc. Though, as you cite, "to me" is based solely upon your own thinking and your own opinion, which, of course, you're entitled to as well...immunity or not.
 
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Interesting interpretation...I guess one could also conclude based upon your example that it's one of disappointment vs. "mean spirited," etc. Though, as you cite, "to me" is based solely upon your own thinking and your own opinion, which, of course, you're entitled to as well...immunity or not.

"You are not the type of person we should be recruiting..." seems both born from disappointment and mean spirited, or at least unkind no? That comment seemed particularly inappropriate given that to many Malachi is exactly the type of kid we should be so glad to have, not to mention he was a key piece if not the key piece in a memorable run. I didn't agree with but can understand to a degree the disdain towards dg and cm, I don't understand it towards Malachi and it's the type of stuff that's caused me to lose interest in this board (for time being) except to extent I can obtain info.
 
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It's almost for the best this way.
Otherwise, we'd have to see 547 more posts from a certain person just stating their opinion on the subject. :p

We only want people posting to this thread who WANT to be here! :D

Or certain posters attacking someone's opinion for no apparent reason.
 
Or certain posters attacking someone's opinion for no apparent reason.

The first several dozen times you stated your opinion, that was fine.
It's these last several dozen times that's getting a bit stale.
That's the reason - and it's more than apparent to everybody - but you, clearly.

This thread now has 147 posts - I'd wager at least 1/3 are from you.
And it's the same on any and all other similar threads.
Don't you think that's just a tad excessive?
I know "fan" is short for "fanatic" - but it doesn't need to be literal.

We get it. You've been quite clear in what your opinion on this topic is. Repeatedly.
You're like the syracusefan.com auto-reply feature on any Mali-related thread. :p
 
The first several dozen times you stated your opinion, that was fine.
It's these last several dozen times that's getting a bit stale.
That's the reason - and it's more than apparent to everybody - but you, clearly.

This thread now has 147 posts - I'd wager at least 1/3 are from you.
And it's the same on any and all other similar threads.
Don't you think that's just a tad excessive?
I know "fan" is short for "fanatic" - but it doesn't need to be literal.

We get it. You've been quite clear in what your opinion on this topic is. Repeatedly.
You're like the syracusefan.com auto-reply feature on any Mali-related thread. :p

Malachi leaving has been by far the biggest topic of the offseason, there have been several posters who have posted about it in several different threads, I don't see the point of calling someone out, if you don't agree with them, state your reasons, no need to attack them.
 
Malachi leaving has been by far the biggest topic of the offseason, there have been several posters who have posted about it in several different threads, I don't see the point of calling someone out, if you don't agree with them, state your reasons, no need to attack them.
Of course it's a big topic, and many posters have commented on various aspects of Malachi's decision in different threads.

You, however, just seem to repeatedly state that Malachi is making a bad decision, and repeatedly express doubts about the veracity of the information he has been receiving from NBA people. The fact that you do this in multiple threads is what some of us take issue with. It's really that simple.
 
Of course it's a big topic, and many posters have commented on various aspects of Malachi's decision in different threads.

You, however, just seem to repeatedly state that Malachi is making a bad decision, and repeatedly express doubts about the veracity of the information he has been receiving from NBA people. The fact that you do this in multiple threads is what some of us take issue with. It's really that simple.

I haven't stated that he is making a bad decision in weeks.
 

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