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I kind of feel like both FSU and Clemson are doing this to show that they're the "big dogs" in the conference. They know that they cannot win this.

Universities are full of incompetence.

Nope, I'm a Bills fan.

Basically what the team has done for the last 15 years.

Same as the last few years. Maybe sneak into the playoffs (if fortunate) only to lose early on.

Pitt declined

Isn’t that the case most years?

back then guys would stick around. Game is so much different than even 10 years ago. I hope we decline

What a depressing thread

Coleman and Robinson

I've been out of the loop, but can a player transfer as much as they want now without sitting?

I thought it was a partial as well. Tanaka was fantastic pre-injury. Afterwards, I remember him being Meh...

And Cashman will get yet another year as he can blame the lost season on Cole's injury.

Like many players over the years, Bell is very good when he plays his game. When he tries to be someone he isn't he stinks. He's a very good catch and shoot shooter. When he forces shots after dribbling he stinks.

Benny was a fringe 5 star. A few years out, stars don't matter.

I drove past the racetrack today, tailgaters were out in force, even with the rain.

Im in Daytona. Has been a downpour all day.

I actually think Cashman more than anyone.

With the state of CFB, I figure who really cares?

You're friends with a UCONN grad? Reported.

Just got my invoice today. My seats are listed as TBA location. Did this happen to others? Sorry if I missed it in the thread.

I kind of like Carey as a long term project. He's tall and seems to have a decent stroke in warm ups.

I've always said that the gods will make up for things and one year the bills will go undefeated beating everyone by 70.

Was the best sporting event I was ever at.

I recall the same. Something about video replay or something. I could be wrong.

How about Syracuse? ATL of all places?

I actually liked Davis as a #2 from what I saw in limited action. I think he and Williams would be solid behind McCord.

I am not sold on him, but I thought Davis did reasonably well for a freshman tossed into the fire during the bowl game. I am fine with him as a #3 or maybe even #2. Is DRW totally out of the picture at this point?

The 6 year graduation rate is a major major measuring stick. Basically, off the record faculty are encouraged to dumb down and pass all students to keep this rate high.

FWIW, US news ranks the state of FL as #1 in education: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

Once they do this for FSU, it also sets a precedence.

If Bama wins each game by 50, FSU will still complain.

FSU getting snubbed could work out well for them. If they had gone to the CFB, they would have more than likely gotten creamed. This way, they can incessantly complain about the snub.

My kid got sick and threw up all over me and herself last night about 9pm. While I missed most of the game, I had the same experience as you all who watched it.

Let us not forget that UNC held shame classes and got away with it. Who knows how this will unfold

Personally, I wouldn't consider Tallahassee the Deep South. That's just me. FSU got outbid for Jimbo's services not too long ago. FSU has some money, but they're far far from rich.

I am not a lawyer, but this seems like a stretch of an argument.

At a certain point I'd think that the SEC/B10 are done adding teams and the B12/ACC or 3rd conference is "safe". Heck, maybe at some point they'd want to boot smaller market schools such as Maryland etc... ?

I think that FSU is partially doing this to show that they're the biggest brand in the conference.

I believe that they are trying to get out of paying that.

To recap FSU doesn't like a TV deal that they willingly signed. FSU feels that they are special and deserve extra money than they agreed to.

I have to think that they've had conversations with the B10/SEC at this point and gotten interest? However, if you're one of these conferences and you see FSU suing their current conference, doesn't this make them even less attractive to join?

I hope that FSU pays the exit fee, and then are voted down by the B10 and SEC. I know that this isn't realistic, but a guy can dream. When the B10 and SEC were both recently expanding, why did they not invite FSU then? If the move was viable, why did they not do it a few years back?

FSU has now entered most disliked school. Wouldn't UF be ok with FSU joining? I mean they're all part of the same state system, correct?

USFs coach looks like an overweight alcoholic Sean Mickvey

Why not play Davis? See what you have

Who wants to start pregaming for next season?

Good thing we had those extra few weeks of practice

Team is not ready

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