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Pretty sure Philcox and McPherson were drafted. If Philcox wasn't, he was in the NFL as a free agent. That's considered QB legend by our standards RJ Anderson was a very good game manager his senior year. Something Shrader is not. Graves is in the college football hall of Fame. Those were all...

I no longer want to be chastised for pointing out my concern over a recruits lack of P5 offers. We do not diamonds in the rough. We get dirt in the rough.

Look no further than the recruiting. Just not good enough. Dino has recruited Jack sh.t on offense. Our best offenses featured Shafer recruits.

No

Absolutely mocking us on national television. We deserve every bit of it.

No.

This is how you know it's as bad as bad can get: Nobody is arguing in this thread. Everyone is actually agreeing about how awful this is. Unprecedented.

On the bright side...next year, empty blue seats will look much nicer on TV than empty silver benches

Is this literally the worst Syracuse performance, all around I have ever seen? I actually think it is so far. This is just incredible.

If there's a way to deduct points, I have full faith that Dino will find it

Going for 3. Moral victory time. Pathetic

Announcer: "Syracuse can't get out of it's own way" on national television. Great look.

Why?

I've decided to go slam my nuts in a car door for some relief.

How much is Dinos house going for on Zillow?

Did they wear all whites a symbolic gesture of quitting. They resemble a bunch of waving white flags.

Cool... special teams blows now We suck at all 3 phases...after a f..ing bye no less

We're getting closer to a first down. Getting better

Dino will talk about how great VA Tech is, and he'll blame the intimidating atmosphere, and playing at night.

Our line would be holding plenty if they had time to. The line gets through unscathed, and plays over.

This offense is GRob era bad. Legitimately.

I said the one thing that can not happen tonight is getting blown out...well on our way.

No. It's just how Syracuse always plays football.

If you remember from our first night game, our wide receivers couldn't catch because they were not used to playing at night. Uh oh.

Orange you glad it's basketball season?

Refs definitely have it out for us. I mean every time we move early, or hold, they throw a flag...What?

Can we go independent, and just schedule bums, so we can get a pretty record and make half this board feel good about this program?

Ffs. Penalties...I've had it with this team.

It may as well be 20.

We're Syracusing all over the place.

Pick up 28 here and we're in business

Glad to see Dino has them prepared after a bye...

Apparently the evidence was nothing more than 4 wins over tomato cans. We are not a good team, but on the plus side, either is anyone else we play. I think we get 2 more wins with every game being evenly matched against equally not that good teams. What can't happen, is a blowout loss to any...

Yeah. I see now.

Yeah. I saw he had stats in that game, so figured he started. Must've come in late. I don't recall

Remind me which games he did not start due to injury. Since he was named starter over Devito, I think he has started every game. I recall him not finishing some, but looking at his stat lines since he was named the starter, he has played in every single game.

I did some research and discovered something shocking. Teams that are usually bad teams, tend to also continue to be bad teams after a bye. That is all.

While I don't think his record after a bye is awful, the fact that 3 of the 4 losses were 54-0, 30-0, 41-3, and that it's an overall losing record isn't what I would call positive. Those scores after a bye are inexcusable.

24-20

He's also 8-14 against P5 teams since he was named starter over Devito. Isn't that what matters? He's done very well against G5 and lower schools.

Actually... you're right. Too harsh. I remove him from the list.

Show me his numbers vs P5. You know ..P5 as in the level we need to be competitive. He's the best we've had other than Dungey...but that's not saying much. To be fair, it's not all on him, you can only do so much. Bottom line is though, with the way our team is constructed right now, it's just...

Does it matter? Our best QBs since McNabb were not stud recruits. Meanwhile... Drew Allen, Zach Allen, A.J. long, Tommy Devito, Garrett Shrader, CDRW, Dan Villari, Braden Davis. All came to Cuse highly touted because they were either a 4 star by at least one recruiting site or transferred from a...

But the depth they gave was commented on throughout to the broadcast. Was this team built through the portal and juco?

Win or lose, I'm impressed with Duke. Look legit against a good team on the road. How'd they do it? Portal? Coaching changes? Whatever they did...do it. Similar program to Syracuse record wise over the last 20 years, similar recruiting prowess, private school with tough academic standards. What...

I think angry Otto works fine, but traditional Otto would be just goofy looking.

"Touching me...touching you" Should be used for Penn State.

Actually am. Pretty low scoring game...I'm not sure our offense does any better. As I write this I see Virginia has no problem scoring on UNC on their opening drive...

You'd think just based on our record...but what team will we beat when we just run Shrader, and have a passing game that consists of check downs and screens to LA?_ These are all going to be ugly rock fights

Oh boy...is this a new security check point heading into the dome? Well, I guess if there's going to be butt checks at the games, who better than Otto?