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With the apparent addition of 2 guards who can play pg, this is obviously no longer an issue!

When was the last time that upstate NY had hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, forest fires, or earthquakes? I mean on a regular basis and billion $ destruction. Buffalo getting buried in multiple snow storms was more an inconvenience than a life threatening events.

This was my thought, BINDING multi year contacts, min of 2 years for freshman thru juniors. (unless the coach leaves) Heck get inventive like a non-compete clause (ie Brown can't play against SU if he goes to Duke). Penalty clause if the kid goes pro early. They want to be paid like adults/...

If a "true" pg is not brought in, and Red has to go with the present roster, who plays the point?

I think that the editors at 247 got some incentives when making this list. Louisville can't find a coach. Arizona players are bailing can't be just the coach.

Thanks. Didn't know about the court case. Understand the grad rule even if u had used the portal once. Makes since. Of course it doesn't say anything about being qualified for the advanced degree or such. Heck does the basket weaving degree qualify a kid to go for a masters in analytical chemistry?

I thought that there was a rule that said kids could play without sitting out a year by using the portal but after that transfers had to sit a year like the old rules. I guess that got changed with NIL so kids could follow the money?

Stand corrected. But checking the records, the years before the championship SU rarely ended less than 4th in the Big East, after they finished 4th or higher only 5 times (half the time). Won't get into ACC finishes. Only saying that the documentary points out that JB felt relieved after...

A couple of questions. Does coach push Melo out the door if the last 20 seconds of the last game goes differently and SU loses like 1996 or does he let him stay and push for the title the next year? 2ndly, did JB lose some of his Mojo with the championship under his belt? Some could say his...

I doubt a 5 star player is going to SU to be a backup even as a frosh, especially to a guy who has played center 90% of the time. I really like Brown. Wish SU had better options at C this past year to see what Brown could do at the 4. Wondered what was going to happen next year.

Having not read all 44 pages (just pages 1, 2, 44), please forgive if this repeats others. Of all the guys leaving I wish McLeod was 1 of them. He is not a C for a P5 school. Very srry Brown is going but fully understand. He is not a center. He knows it, the team knows it. He should not be...

If this is the case NIL payment should be based on players playing in all games they are available. Sit out ANY game because u fell like it should cost u a percentage of your NIL mpney.

I think his play (actually everybody's! ) would be better with an actual pg who can hit 3's. Having your major ball handler just bull his way down the lane doesn't help ANYBODY!

You mean that there aren't any SU alumni law firms willing to take the case pro-bono? Or just a percentage of the payout?

Play with an actual center not a pf at center. And one who can actually play the position. You know, rebound, score and defend ACC centers. Love Brown but he just is over matched. And unfortunately with a big time pf coming in, his court time is going to get cut if a true center.

3 teams from the ACC. Probably only take 1. Hmmmm, Duke could add to its coffers, you know the one it needs to resupply because it's so "poor"! My guess is that SU is a distant 3rd in that race.

To Bell's line "taking mid-range shots off the dribble". Adds value more than the 2 pts he scores.

The ACC actually helped a bit. The last half of the SU conference schedule has been unusually kind with only 1 game against the league top teams (and SU won that one!) which let them go 6-3 so far. In the past the back end of the schedule was loaded like last year against 4 top 25 teams alone...

My problem with Judah is that more often as not on a drive, he ends up on the floor and expects the ref to call a foul just because he's on the floor whether it was caused by the defense or not! One of these days they are going call a flop foul on him.

Sure, all colleges drop sports...Then the following year the formally top 20 or so schools decide that hey we can go back to having sports and get 2 or 3 times the money we use to and pass half over to academics. And before you know it the rich get even richer.

And the governing board of the NCAA becomes complicit by allowing the blue bloods to slide but punish others for minor offensives to show how honest and straight they are.

Tital of the post could have been 1st half / 2nd half. Same thing... And good job.

And yes the answer is Temple. Mostly lead by John Chaney with his "match up zone." Had to be a team not in a P5 conference but close. Back then it was called Eastern 8.

I doubt it. Not having to sit out a year is the biggest draw. Kids prove themselves at lower levels the get to step up without missing a beat.

I was right, being just a college b-ball fan is not enough. You have to be an "experienced" one. Answer in a bit.

My 27 yr old son does a lot of trivia contests and asked me if I knew the answer to this one. What college basketball team has the all time winningest record without winning a national championship? No cheating please. And no, I did not know the answer and you probably have to be my age to...

I think winning out is a daydream nightmare. SU already lost to Clemson and beat Louisville by 2 at home. Win both on the road? Ain't happening. Win 1 lose 1 rotation doesn't bode will for Sat either. Winning 3 of 4 and then round 1 of ACCT, then hopefully an NIT bide and that will probably be...

Still didn't answer the question, did Red recruit kids JB told him too or not?

Heard a stat yesterday that this year like only 10% of freshman are leading their teams in any category where as portal transfers are. So, does that make the portal more important than recruiting freshman? Is redshirting going to be a thing of the past?

My surprises? That Williams, Bell and Taylor stayed on the team especially Williams. That McLeod was offered period, never thought he was any good. That forwards/centers more suited to play man weren't sought out. With the roster Red had; hoped for improvement, expected the worse

This year's record is 16-10/7-8 with 6 games to go (3 at home) and that's without sr leadership / 2 starters. Last year was 17-15 / 10-10. Baring a total collapse, there should be more wins but probably no better conference record. This includes a signature win against the #7 team that beat SU...

I guess I'm confused about recruiting. A lot of posters blame this yrs roster on Red (and the rest of the coaching staff) because they recruited the players with Red as the lead recruiter. I would like to know who CHOOSE which kids to go after, Red or JB? And even if Red actually chose which...

Plus side...Autry has taught the team how to inbound the ball under pressure late in the game, a failing that cost several games over the past 2 years. The team rebounded well. Mintz played mostly under control. (Did he hear Greenburg's critic?) Winning ingredients. Can they keep doing it...

I was going start a post also asking for forgiveness. This afternoon I was going to start a thread asking what people thought the final spread was going to be, figuring UNC by 20+. Oh I am so bad. I need forgiveness to be able to enjoy watching the on replay. And how nuts this forum is going to...

I saw nothing to warrent Mcleod's return even as a backup. Would really want to trust him as a backup to an unknown quantity? You'll end up in the same situation as this year!

Please, no more power forwards forced to play center 30+ minutes a game! If a kid is 6'10" and wants to be a pf, don't force him to play the 5 especially after 2 or 3 years of college ball.

You voice a lot of the thoughts I had watching/listening to the game. When was the last time tv announcers pointed out a bench's apparent disinterest in the game? Or how a coach went to a player to talk with him? I thought it great. Didn't think about the Autry- Greenberg connection that many...

Gee it seems they were trying to play man with zone principles!

Don't you think they were handcuffed by the style of the head coach. That they convinced JB to go after lean/lanky front court me to play a complicated zone D exclusively. That a true point guard wasn't necessary? Yeah Red and GMac may have had a hand in who was recruited but they it may not...

As the way things are going now days with the portal, why worry about redshirting a player? How many will actually stay 4 years to get maximum use from a player? Find out his real potential ability to play at this level asap. If he can play or shows the potential then fine. Doing both the...

It's a hell of set of odds.

NIL would move to high school level allowing families to move to different states.

Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure it would happen anyways) but don't the rules for the the portal require 2nd time through, the player has to sit out a year like old transfer rules? That sort of reduces the odds of McCloud and Cuffe leaving doesn’t it? And McCloud is already 23. Cuffe is fine...

And my point was if ACC football/ basketball declines the ESPN viewership would decline thus the revenue would be less. It seems to me that it is in the best interest of ESPN/ DISNEY to keep the ACC strong and not letting the Big 5 get reduced to 3 or 2.

There is a steady flow on the web about conference realignment. If I understand it correctly, the ACC's only real advantage is the media control it maintains even if a school leave to join a different conference. The biggest problem is the financial agreement with ESPN it terms of payout...

Decades ago, when I was in college, people from NYC and New Jersey often thought that anything north/west of Poughkeepsie was farm land. Tell them you live in Rochester or Syracuse and they couldn't understand why u didn't know so-n-so.

With Mintz returning l believe that all 13 scholarships are account for. When was the last time that happened? I'm not counting years when walking on's were given extra leftover scholarships.

I understand that the roster will open up, but how can you recruit, offer scholarships when they aren't technically not .available. Will top recruits understand?

Admittedly haven't read all the responses but I am a little concerned about the roster going into 24/25. 12 scholarships (13 w Mintz) but with only 3 Jr's and no Sr's going into 23/24. I thought there was 1 kid committed for 2024. Therefore, that means no room to recruit for the 24 class. The...

Study tapes on man defense.