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AJ Long to Wagner

It is Official that I will continue the pursuit of getting a great education and playing football at Wagner College. I want to thank everyone for the support, and motivation over these past months. Thank you to Wagner for giving me another opportunity. I won't be doing any interviews, for now I just want to focus on my education, and building relationship with my teammates and coaches. Thank You. Let's go Hawks

 
I hope he doesn't wind up like Mike Webster.

I wonder if SU's concussion policy to more to protect the school than the player. If anything happens, it's not going to be SU's fault because they had a policy and followed it.
 
SWC75 said:
I hope he doesn't wind up like Mike Webster. I wonder if SU's concussion policy to more to protect the school than the player. If anything happens, it's not going to be SU's fault because they had a policy and followed it.
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It's both.
 
SWC75 said:
I hope he doesn't wind up like Mike Webster.

I wonder if SU's concussion policy to more to protect the school than the player. If anything happens, it's not going to be SU's fault because they had a policy and followed it.
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Yes its to protect the school. Its like human resource is really not for the benefit of employees.
 
jgeorge322 said:
I dont get it? He loved cuse. We wouldnt let him play anymore. Hes moved on. He can still love cuse.
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Well, he wasn't loving the Cuse when he was rooting for NC State to blow our doors off...
 
Nick44 said:
So AJ...what about that Syracuse tattoo?
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Looks like he has added some tats to that arm already, might be in part to cover up.

Just hope the kid doesn't scramble his brains any worse by continuing to play.
 
It's a good move. He wouldn't have played here even if he could.
 
I had dreams of Long to Ishmael being the most prolific TD duo in school history.

Now I'm just hoping Long isn't putting his long term health at high risk.

Hope all works out well at Vagner.
 
He will kill it at Wagner and is probably in good shape "concussion " wise. The cuse docs were covering their butts calling most hits above the shoulder pads the C word.
 
DocFlanders said:
Well, he wasn't loving the Cuse when he was rooting for NC State to blow our doors off...
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Yep. Great teammate.
 
Cleared by a designated concussion center is all I need to know. SU was playing it ultra-safe and I have alot of mixed emotions about that. Fact is you don't need 3 broken necks to end up like Eric LeGrand. One hit is all it takes so if you really want to put the health of all athletes first and foremost then maybe just dismantle the program and focus on crew instead.
 
Pyle said:
Cleared by a designated concussion center is all I need to know. SU was playing it ultra-safe and I have alot of mixed emotions about that. Fact is you don't need 3 broken necks to end up like Eric LeGrand. One hit is all it takes so if you really want to put the health of all athletes first and foremost then maybe just dismantle the program and focus on crew instead.
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Come on. This is ridiculous, in all seriousness who here is qualified or has the right to comment on who the Syracuse dr. should qualify or disqualify. I can think of one of top of my head. But but but... He's a family practice doc!!!!!! Yes, who is certified and qualified to diagnose these type of injuries, is he and industry leader or a world wide expert? I doubt it, is he going to error on the side of caution, probably protecting the best interest of the university and the athlete? Yes, I am sure he is. I don't really see a huge issue with this. THE HORROR! geeze. Move on...
 
IthacaBarrel said:
Come on. This is ridiculous, in all seriousness who here is qualified or has the right to comment on who the Syracuse dr. should qualify or disqualify. I can think of one of top of my head. But but but... He's a family practice doc! Yes, who is certified and qualified to diagnose these type of injuries, is he and industry leader or a world wide expert? I doubt it, is he going to error on the side of caution, probably protecting the best interest of the university and the athlete? Yes, I am sure he is. I don't really see a huge issue with this. THE HORROR! geeze. Move on...
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Who has the right? This is an internet opinion forum. This isn't about whether we have the right to comment on anything, it's a place to voice opinions. Mine is that somebody cleared by an actual concussion center should be allowed to play. Instead we are cutting careers short. Yes I know, SU never ever does anything overly PC to err on the side of caution of right? How many universities have banned the kiss-cam now? Oh yeah it's still just us.
 
Pyle said:
Who has the right? This is an internet opinion forum. This isn't about whether we have the right to comment on anything, it's a place to voice opinions. Mine is that somebody cleared by an actual concussion center should be allowed to play. Instead we are cutting careers short. Yes I know, SU never ever does anything overly PC to err on the side of caution of right? How many universities have banned the kiss-cam now? Oh yeah it's still just us.
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OK, so an actual concussion center and you would feel better. Then you carry on that we should dismantle the program and focus on crew if Syracuse continues to play it safe. How do we know what AJ should be doing? I bet the Syracuse Doc has his reasons.
 
IthacaBarrel said:
Come on. This is ridiculous, in all seriousness who here is qualified or has the right to comment on who the Syracuse dr. should qualify or disqualify. I can think of one of top of my head. But but but... He's a family practice doc! Yes, who is certified and qualified to diagnose these type of injuries, is he and industry leader or a world wide expert? I doubt it, is he going to error on the side of caution, probably protecting the best interest of the university and the athlete? Yes, I am sure he is. I don't really see a huge issue with this. THE HORROR! geeze. Move on...
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None of us are qualified; all we, as fans, should be asking for is a Neurologist making these calls instead of your local family physician that because diagnosing concussions wasn't in his wheelhouse of expertise, was practicing cover your butt medicine. That was the case last year.
 
Ish88888 said:
None of us are qualified; all we, as fans, should be asking for is a Neurologist making these calls instead of your local family physician that because diagnosing concussions wasn't in his wheelhouse of expertise, was practicing cover your butt medicine. That was the case last year.
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Look people can have opinions one way or another but the University seems to be protecting themselves as well as the athlete, could be a lot worse. Strange most people don't see to care about a kid slipping through the cracks that SHOULD NOT be playing... Keep looking around long enough you will find a doc who will tell you what you want to hear

For me it's let the Docs, athlete, parents and university handle this stuff.
 
IthacaBarrel said:
OK, so an actual concussion center and you would feel better. Then you carry on that we should dismantle the program and focus on crew if Syracuse continues to play it safe. How do we know what AJ should be doing? I bet the Syracuse Doc has his reasons.
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Yeah his reasons are 3 strikes and you're out per university policy. We are letting policy get in the way of good medicine, if he is cleared by a concussion center then SU's policies, while good intentioned, might be missing the mark. It's not like he got cleared by Dr. Nick.
 
IthacaBarrel said:
Look people can have opinions one way or another but the University seems to be protecting themselves as well as the athlete, could be a lot worse. Strange most people don't see to care about a kid slipping through the cracks that SHOULD NOT be playing... Keep looking around long enough you will find a doc who will tell you what you want to hear

For me it's let the Docs, athlete, parents and university handle this stuff.
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The university is also protecting themselves by banning the Kiss cam, rebranding to Syracuse Orange, and a host of other stuff. I believe I mentioned the university's tendency to err on the side of caution regardless. The point is we might be taking it too far. BTW, i don't think getting cleared by the Jefferson Concussion Center is AJ looking around long enough. "The Jefferson Comprehensive Concussion Center – the Delaware Valley's premier destination for concussion management – is a unique collaboration of concussion specialists from Jefferson, Rothman Institute and Wills Eye Hospital".
 
Pyle said:
Yeah his reasons are 3 strikes and you're out per university policy. We are letting policy get in the way of good medicine, if he is cleared by a concussion center then SU's policies, while good intentioned, might be missing the mark. It's not like he got cleared by Dr. Nick.
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I'd rather be ahead of the curve when it comes to getting sued for concussions than behind it.

You realize the NFL settled a $900-million concussion lawsuit, right? Syracuse is protecting itself for the future. At least we tried to limit long term brain damage.

Furthermore, I feel like getting cleared by these people is akin to getting a medicinal marijuana card in CA. If you try hard enough it'll happen. I wouldn't feel safe letting my child play if they've been disqualified already by one school.
 
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