Division realignment

[Quazzum69]

Does a soon to be top 25 Syracuse program get fsu and Clemson to pressure the acc into fixing these ridiculous divisions a year sooner?

 

[omniorange]

Does a soon to be top 25 Syracuse program get fsu and Clemson to pressure the acc into fixing these ridiculous divisions a year sooner?

Unfortunately, I don't see a current Coastal team voting to leave that division. It's my understanding that divisional realignment votes usually end up 8-6 against.

Cheers,
Neil

 

[OrangeDW]

It's crazy. We could have an excellent team and still finish 4th in the division, if FSU, Clemson, and Louisville stay consistent.

Really want Cuse, VT, Miami, BC, and Pitt to be in the same division like the old BE, and fill in 2 more that aren't FSU and Clemson.

 

[Hoo's That]

If they can get one passed, the least painful realignment would be just to swap Louisville and VPI. It wouldn't disrupt any long-standing rivalries, get VPI out of our division (we'd still play them as the cross-division game), and do a better job of distributing the good teams. I don't know whether our administration would vote for moving VPI to the other division, but our fanbase would vote for it unanimously.

 

[Trueblue25]

It's crazy. We could have an excellent team and still finish 4th in the division, if FSU, Clemson, and Louisville stay consistent.

Really want Cuse, VT, Miami, BC, and Pitt to be in the same division like the old BE, and fill in 2 more that aren't FSU and Clemson.

UL and NC State probably

 

[OrangeDW]

UL and NC State probably

Id say UL and Virginia. Keeps VT-Virginia together, and keeps the 4 Carolina schools together plus 3 Deep South teams in FSU, Clemson, and GT. Would be pretty even, and for the most part(Miami exception) make geographical sense.

 

[omniorange]

I think the only divisional realignment that FSU and Clemson would favor is GT for SU. But nobody else wants that but us, so that ain't happening. :rolling:

Cheers,
Neil

 

[Trueblue25]

Id say UL and Virginia. Keeps VT-Virginia together, and keeps the 4 Carolina schools together plus 3 Deep South teams in FSU, Clemson, and GT. Would be pretty even, and for the most part(Miami exception) make geographical sense.

Could only imagine our blood baths with Pitt in that league.

May as well hope the Big 12 folds and bring in UT and WVU too.

 

[HtownOrange]

Division power will sway back and forth over time. It wasn't too long ago that SEC east knew how to play football and the SEC was full of glorified bye week scrimmages.

I am not in favor of the OBE in one division and the OACC teams in the other, unless FSU is in with the OBE. At least then the detractors could cry of the purity of the OACC school division and then cry about losing annually. Clemson might like the easy road the ACCCG, though.

 

[baggerbob]

It's crazy. We could have an excellent team and still finish 4th in the division, if FSU, Clemson, and Louisville stay consistent.

Really want Cuse, VT, Miami, BC, and Pitt to be in the same division like the old BE, and fill in 2 more that aren't FSU and Clemson.

Louisville, Wake Forest, Miami, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, Boston College, Syracuse. Florida St, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, North Carolina St, Duke. That would be better balance , and satisfy, Florida St, Clemson, and Georgia Tech.

 

[Hoo's That]

Id say UL and Virginia. Keeps VT-Virginia together, and keeps the 4 Carolina schools together plus 3 Deep South teams in FSU, Clemson, and GT. Would be pretty even, and for the most part(Miami exception) make geographical sense.

Breaks up UVa-UNC. Non-starter. The 121st game in the series was played today, 2nd most all-time.

 

[Chris02M]

its a really tough task realigning the divisions while keeping the must have rivalries.

 

[Blaster]

13 game conference schedule

 

[omniorange]

Louisville, Wake Forest, Miami, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, Boston College, Syracuse. Florida St, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, North Carolina St, Duke. That would be better balance , and satisfy, Florida St, Clemson, and Georgia Tech.

Not bad. I think I would tweak it just a bit:

FSU - Miami
Clemson - Louisville
Virginia - VT
Duke - Wake
UNC - NC St
GT - BC
Pitt - SU

Cheers,
Neil

 

[Chris02M]

Not bad. I think I would tweak it just a bit:

FSU - Miami
Clemson - Louisville
Virginia - VT
Duke - Wake
UNC - NC St
GT - BC
Pitt - SU

Cheers,
Neil

would be fine except nc state loses a must have game vs clemson

 

[Alsacs]

Division 1
Duke
North Carolina
Virginia
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Pittsburgh
Louisville

Division 2
NC State
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
Miami
Clemson
Syracuse
Boston College

Crossovers

VPI-UVA
UNC-NCSU
Wake-Duke
FSU-Miami
CU-Ga. Tech
SU-Pitt
BC-UL

 

[Stern]

Easy solution is to swap Miami and Clemson. Then make Miami's cross game each year be VT (they won't leave VT and want to play them every year for some odd reason). So you still have Miami vs FSU every year just a division game. And Miami VT stays in tact. FSU can have Clemson has a cross over game now or you can tweak that cross over thing a bit to make some parties happy. But overall it just even things out some.

Solves everything. FSU > Miami now and going forward so the Atlantic gets a tad bit easier. And you make the coastal stronger. Miami can't compete like the old days they don't have the funds or support they used too.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

If they can get one passed, the least painful realignment would be just to swap Louisville and VPI. It wouldn't disrupt any long-standing rivalries, get VPI out of our division (we'd still play them as the cross-division game), and do a better job of distributing the good teams. I don't know whether our administration would vote for moving VPI to the other division, but our fanbase would vote for it unanimously.

Least painful would be swapping Pitt and Louisville. VA Tech wants to play Miami and UVA every year. Gives you:

FSU-Miami
Clemson-GA Tech
Pitt-Louisville
SU-UVA
NC State-UNC
BC-VA Tech
Wake-Duke

The only draw back is it hurts the SOS for both FSU and Clemson. Although it does provide a stronger ACC CG which would help.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Easy solution is to swap Miami and Clemson. Then make Miami's cross game each year be VT (they won't leave VT and want to play them every year for some odd reason). So you still have Miami vs FSU every year just a division game. And Miami VT stays in tact. FSU can have Clemson has a cross over game now or you can tweak that cross over thing a bit to make some parties happy. But overall it just even things out some.

Solves everything. FSU > Miami now and going forward so the Atlantic gets a tad bit easier. And you make the coastal stronger. Miami can't compete like the old days they don't have the funds or support they used too.

Coastal teams want a Florida school for recruiting.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Another option is the geographic split. So one Florida school, one Southern school, two Carolina schools, one Northern school, one mid Atlantic school, and one Western school.

Miami-FSU
Clemson-GA Tech
NC State-UNC
Wake-Duke
SU-BC
VA Tech-UVA
Pitt-Louisville

This also splits the private schools evenly, which IMO is a problem currently.

This would also kick ass for SU. We would get Miami, VA Tech, Pitt, and BC every year.

 

[Hoo's That]

Another option is the geographic split. So one Florida school, one Southern school, two Carolina schools, one Northern school, one mid Atlantic school, and one Western school.

Miami-FSU
Clemson-GA Tech
NC State-UNC
Wake-Duke
SU-BC
VA Tech-UVA
Pitt-Louisville

This also splits the private schools evenly, which IMO is a problem currently.

This would also kick ass for SU. We would get Miami, VA Tech, Pitt, and BC every year.

This one looks good. An added plus in its favor is that FSU has wanted to play Ga Tech more because they are the closest school geographically to Tally.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Petrino will leave Louisville when Jackson does, and we'll see what they do to stay relevant.

Clemson will ebb and flow. They're very good now. Won't be forever.

Florida State is the one that can really anchor the top of the division.

Wake has a low ceiling. Always will.

BC's going nowhere.

And don't forget, it's in the conference's best interests to have the top two teams in the same division. It guarantees their heavyweight fight.

 

[Hoo's That]

Petrino will leave Louisville when Jackson does, and we'll see what they do to stay relevant.
Clemson will ebb and flow. They're very good now. Won't be forever.
Florida State is the one that can really anchor the top of the division.
Wake has a low ceiling. Always will.
BC's going nowhere.
And don't forget, it's in the conference's best interests to have the top two teams in the same division. It guarantees their heavyweight fight.

If that occurs, Louavul will probably go after Brohm at W. Kentucky. He's a Louavul grad and has done a lot to maintain what Petrino started at WKU. Of course, there's no guarantee he'd succeed, but the strong likelihood is there.

 

[riskylogic]

The four year history of the 14-team divisions:

2013: 7-7
2014: 7-7
2015: 10-4 Coastal
2016: 6-3 Atlantic, so far.

The Atlantic is more top heavy, the Coastal has more parity.

Carry on.

 

[Alsacs]

Petrino will leave Louisville when Jackson does, and we'll see what they do to stay relevant.

Clemson will ebb and flow. They're very good now. Won't be forever.

Florida State is the one that can really anchor the top of the division.

Wake has a low ceiling. Always will.

BC's going nowhere.

And don't forget, it's in the conference's best interests to have the top two teams in the same division. It guarantees their heavyweight fight.

Where is Petrino going to go? Why would he go to a more difficult place. Louisville can win a NC. He is paid 5 million dollars a year. The SEC West sucks because you aren't beating Alabama. The Big Ten has Meyer and Harbaugh. I doubt he goes to the Pac-12. Thus staying in the ACC makes sense.