Discussion in 'Football Recruiting Forum' started by DeepThrowIt, Jun 4, 2012.
Maybe it started and stopped with Reddish?
That's my recollection of what occurred. Sounds like lots of sour grapes here. I also seem to think Mr. Williams' was pretty transparent about his view that Notre Dame is a superior institution.
I know many here "bleed orange" and look at the world through "orange-tinted lenses," but I cant get over how many here really think Edwards and EO are a package deal because they are bffs. Most of us made a choice at one point in our lives to go to the respective colleges that we did. If those choices were based on where our friends were going, i would imagine our parents werent all to happy. I had really good, close friends growing up who were all relatively bright and very good kids.
That being said, i never would have ignored admission to Princeton to attend Syracuse, just because my buddies were going there.*** Yet that is what most here are essentially hoping that EO will do. Its pie-in-the-sky thinking. The only reason to attend the lesser school is if something at the more prestigious better school completely turned you off (e.g., lack of major; wait listed; horrible visit, etc.)
The reality is that kids like Ishaq Williams and Jarron Jones were tailor made to attend Syracuse. The fact that they chose to attend Notre Dame speaks volumes of the state of the program. Start winning and upgrade the facilities then we can talk about EO choosing SU over Notre Dame or Florida.
*** I am not sure if this was clear or not but i was just using Princeton and SU as a hypothetical. I never would have sniffed admission to a school like Princeton, though I did attend SU at one point.
Notre Dame in reality is a mediocre football school. The actual product has been mediocre for years. SU is in a Major BCS conference and has rich tradition. Also in case you haven't noticed ND hasn't exactly been winning lately.
We have been pretty mediocre as well but Notre Dame also has the NBC deal and a rich tradition and will get into essentially whatever bowl they please as long as they have an above average record. I love SU and all, but Notre Dame is way more relevant than we are right now. I don't even see how that can be argued.
Agree with both of you. Dad was a big fan of SU and still is. Both parents being alums also helped keep us in the picture during Ishaq's recruitment. Dad is still a good spokesperson for the program as much as many people here don't want to believe. He speaks to many NYC players and speaks very kind words to them of SU (He played a part in Wayne Williams commiting here). He still posts frequently on the NYC football forum and has nothing but good things to say about our program and coach Marrone. The family and Ishaq decided that ND was a better fit for Ishaq and even though many of us diehards disagree it is what it is.
It is easy to get worked up over the notion of SU being, in Mr. Williams' opinion, good enough for Wayne (and himself for that matter), but somehow not good enough for Ishaq. I get how that rationale breeds resentment. But, in the end, its harder to find fault with a parent that wants what they deem to be as being the best for his/her child.
Why would Ishaq's Dad ever want EO to go to SU when his son goes to ND... The video along with that news has me worried. Are only hope is Augustus..
The good news is, Ebo seems to like whichever school he last visited best. Syracuse has a visit about a week before his decision. That could bode very well for the Orange.
Mikey Farrell seems to think that Florida is it. If so, he had us all fooled with yesterday's interview
I don't have an issue with his rationale ... I think for me its more the way he presents himself, I was watching a youtube video the other day about Wayne Williams and his recruitment and Shaun was on it more than he was ... I think he likes the attention more than Ishaq ... I don't have an issue with him choosing ND or any other school if he feels its a better fit however its about the kids chasing the scholarship not him.
I think there is a reason everyone thinks something different, EO himself doesn't know for sure yet. He pushed his decision back to the 24th of July now.
Think ND would stop if he committed?
Its down to Florida and SU
I have to laugh at some of the tweets from the Gator fans as they feel that if Farrell thinks Eb is going to Fl they might as well forget it. Eb stated right in that interview that he hadn't told any of the schools his decision yet, so unless he was lying, I don't think anyone outside his closest confidants knows where he is going. Maybe not even Eb.
I just listened to the interview and he said one small thing that makes me think ND. In ref to a question about playing LB vs DE he said that Isaq said I'll get used to it vs I'd get used to it. Who knows very minor but if you had made up your mind you would say I will If you were still thinking about it you would say I would.
Wow, you should work for the NSA. I think you may be correct.
I find that grammer is not a great concern of most teens.
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read my post from yesterday. Post 235 in this thread
Personally, I'm hoping the nervousness and not knowing what to say about SU is him trying to not show his hand. His personality definitely changes when on SU. If it were me, and I was trying to cover up my decision, I'd pick the easy school to deflect the "what school most impressed you" question.
Only thing I'm pretty sure about is that he's not going to UF. We'll see.
re: school choices. Not everyone needs to go to Harvard. These are football players, after all.
Edit: From his Twitter:
"Why hasnt clemson offered me though? I love that school!"
"I always wondered why Clemson didn't offer me?? "
Notice he mentions them when talking about SU and the ACC. Revenge factor?
Wow just read your post i feel the exact same way
This has not worked out well for us over the last ten years (or ever). Hopefully the combination of last visit and Gus can sway him away from the Swamp
1:37 mark. EO get's stood up pretty easy..
What leads you to that conclusion, do you have inside data? Based on the way he spoke it seemed like UF was kinda out of it and it was ND or SU ... of course you could be right and that could just be a smoke screen ... I took his words in the same literal context that most board members here did ... of course that last SU visit could change things ... I have no idea.
it screamed ND ... we need to hit a home run on his visit and pull for Mom and (Hopefully Gus) to get in his head.
The worst one of all in the entire clip
Agreed ... but the way he said so affirmatively UF and SU leads me to believe he is being naughty and not sharing some nuggets ... At least that is my hope ... I would hate to see him go to UF ... I work with some UF grads and listening to them crow about it would give me a headache, they are almost as bad as ND fans ... good night ....
Meh ... thankfully its just one matchup and I am not sure he was in the best position to succeed in that one on one anyway ... EO is an edge rusher and I don't see him lining up helmet to helmet with guys of that caliber very often on Saturdays ... there was two other guys that struggled a bit in that drill and actually on an initial rush Elijah Daniel had a rough go ... I don't expect that to be the norm for EO ... unless he ends up in the SEC since that is where most of those jumbo tackles are headed ... or B10 land ... in the BE or ACC for that matter you won't encounter many lineman of that caliber.
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