Our refs missed the meeting

[Capt. Tuttle]

Committee members believed "that charge/block calls in some cases were not made correctly, sometimes giving the defense an advantage." Every college hoops fan in the country is currently nodding in agreement. To fix the issue, the rules oversight committee approved the following guidelines "to help better administer these rules." From the release:

• Before the offensive player (with the ball) becomes airborne, the defender must have two feet on the floor, be facing the opponent and be stationary to draw a charge. Otherwise, it should be a blocking foul.
• Secondary defenders (help defenders) moving forward or to the side are also in violation and those should be blocking fouls.
• Contact that is “through the chest” is not de facto proof of a charge. The rule in its entirety must be considered before determining a foul.
• In some cases, it appears a defender is being rewarded solely for being outside the arc, without considering the other aspects of the rules.
• http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebask.../60143/ncaa-shores-up-block-charge-definition

 

[Deano]

Committee members believed "that charge/block calls in some cases were not made correctly, sometimes giving the defense an advantage." Every college hoops fan in the country is currently nodding in agreement. To fix the issue, the rules oversight committee approved the following guidelines "to help better administer these rules." From the release:

• Before the offensive player (with the ball) becomes airborne, the defender must have two feet on the floor, be facing the opponent and be stationary to draw a charge. Otherwise, it should be a blocking foul.
• Secondary defenders (help defenders) moving forward or to the side are also in violation and those should be blocking fouls.
• Contact that is “through the chest” is not de facto proof of a charge. The rule in its entirety must be considered before determining a foul.
• In some cases, it appears a defender is being rewarded solely for being outside the arc, without considering the other aspects of the rules.
• http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebask.../60143/ncaa-shores-up-block-charge-definition

I would say forward that to Dookie V but he still wouldn't get it.

 

[Flacusian]

Classic case of closing the barn door after the horse has left. What is next for the NCAA rules committee? Issuing guidelines for what constitutes inappropriate beaning of players with basketballs by coaches and limits on what parts of the player can reasonably be kicked? Nothing would surprise me. The NCAA is the perfect example of the inmates running the asylum.

 

[swish7]

Seems eerily similar to the rules I learned 20ish years ago in HS.

 

[Hoov50]

Maybe this offseason they can discuss the absolute lack of calls across the country (some conferences more than others) of guys bumping, grabbing and bodying up dribblers all over the court. It used to be that the officials would let the initial bump go almost as if to see if it was an accident or not. If the defender bumped again a foul was called, if not the defender got away with it. Today players are permitted to bump as much as they wish and sometimes even bump the dribble so much that the ball is lost without a foul call. It is really killing college basketball. In the NBA you see guys play defense with their feet because these century old rules are enforced, but not in the NCAA. The NCAA thinks that because football is the most popular sport in the country that football should be played on basketball courts too.

 

[cuseincincy]

While I agree that there were some questionable calls I can not put any blame for SU losing this game on the refs. SU's players made way too many mistakes on there own to put blame elsewhere. I do agree 100% that the aggressive defense being allowed to be played is the biggest thing wrong with college basketball today. And though we may not want to acknowledge this right now, over the course of the season the allowance of aggressive defense has probably benefited SU more often than it has hurt them. The full body collision that causes the ball to be knocked away from the dribbler without the defender actually touching the ball is mind boggling that it doesn't get called.

 

[Orangezoo]

Michigan really tried to hand the game to us with their horrible stall offense. Just as much as we should have made more plays - michigan should have closed out. The fact is they didn't. Saying we didn't do enough or michigan should never have been in that situation does not change the impact those calls had. If two or three major calls significantly impact a game there is a problem regardless of both teams needing to play better. McGary and company were dominant in stretches and played great basketball on both sides for the first 20 minutes. We couldn't get near the hump let alone get over it until late in the game. At that time michigan should have not let us back in. Our boys were guttsy to put the wolverines on the ropes and nearly take the game away from them. The officials unfortunately played a large role in not allowing the comeback to be completed via MCW's 4th and 5th and Triche's charge. Instead of letting the players decide and letting 3 50/50 calls go as a no call they made 3 calls that helped one team and hurt the other. Should we allow judgment in that scenario? If yes then there will continue to be more things like this for as long as it goes without change.

 

[kingtidge]

It was a nice run for team this year... tough way to go down for sure.

Given how poorly we played on offense in 1st half, not surprised with the loss... It would have been a small miracle for us to pull it off... and lord knows the refs seemed to do what they could to ensure that didn't happen.

 

[Marsh01]

Here is a good look at the charge frame by frame. Looks like he was late in getting there for sure.

http://collegespun.com/big-east/syr...nd-of-the-michigan-syracuse-game#.UWL2onenkuJ

 

[themole]

Yeah, in slo-mo it looks totally like a block. Sadly refs can't see things in slo-mo. I am still pissed about it. Grr,

 

[HtownOrange]

Yeah, in slo-mo it looks totally like a block. Sadly refs can't see things in slo-mo. I am still pissed about it. Grr,

The ref knew the call long before the whistle. They let McGary hack all night, espesially away from the ball. He should have been out of the game in the first half, but the refs had no intention of letting Syracuse in the game.

Sorry if this sounds too homerish, but McGary was only good because the refs let him mug people. If we had pkayed him the same way, we'd have had nobody left to play the second half.

 

[Noexcuse]

The Ref called it perfectly. In the first half. Against MCW.

 

[Orangezoo]

The Triche call hurt - but the MCW 4th foul - stevie wonder called that an offensive foul. Williams came into contact with nothing except the ball handler's outstretched arm shoving him away. MCW's fifth was an acting job if I have ever seen one as well. If you are going to put a team's best player in foul trouble - at least make it someone reasonable and a call thats hard not to make. In this case both calls were either bad or easy no calls. As officials who are supposed to be the best of the best being they are in one of the final two games -its dissapointing to say the least. They were UM's saving grace as for as much as they dominated us and as much as we couldn't even the score - the final 3 minutes the door swung wide open and the officials closed it shut. It was a shame for both teams really. UM played a great 35 minutes - and a horrible last 5. As a fan you take any win but it would suck to know thats the way you won.