Remember when the Gov was handing out money for a new stadium?

[KellySyracuse]

You can peruse the original thread here:

Anyone hear this new stadium rumor

More to the story today on Syracuse.com and the behind the scenes glad handing/money transfer that got Cor the Kennedy Square property that may shed some light on why the rumor of a new stadium on that site got started

Lobbyist Todd Howe was paid by both sides - state, developer - in no-bid Syracuse deal

"Upstate officials had been in talks with Cor as early as 2007 about collaborating at Kennedy Square...(Todd)
Howe was present in December 2011 when Lt. Gov. Duffy came to Syracuse and announced that Upstate would partner with Cor to develop Kennedy Square.

Duffy and other officials implied at the news conference that Cor would engineer $230 million in new development, creating a new neighborhood called Loguen's Crossing adjacent to Upstate's biotech center.

But nothing has been created except the biotech facility, which Upstate built independently. The joint venture agreement with Cor remains in effect but has not been executed, because the eight-acre tract targeted for development remains dormant.

Howe is now cooperating with federal prosecutors. (for bribery and bid rigging regarding other projects involving COR)

Cor executives Steven Aiello and Joseph Gerardi were charged Sept. 22 with bribery and bid-rigging in connection with a 2013 contract they won from a different state university, SUNY Polytechnic Institute."

 

[CusefanATL]

i wish i was in politics.

 

[xc84]

I remember that...and I remember when Miner rejected the money. The stadium didn't have to be on that site. Accept the money and then finalize the site. The Vikings stadium had many potential sites while plans were being made. That's the way it works.

 

[OttoMets]

I remember that...and I remember when Miner rejected the money. The stadium didn't have to be on that site. Accept the money and then finalize the site. The Vikings stadium had many potential sites while plans were being made. That's the way it works.

That's an apples-and-thumbtacks comparison.

In one scenario, there's a municipal stadium authority working publicly alongside the state legislature and a committed tenant to find a physical site for a building all parties want.

In the other, there's a corrupt governor in bed with a crooked developer springing a cash giveaway (in the form of a tenantless stadium concept) on the public in a city that may or may not want a stadium. Totally off the wall, and very different from the usual process of identifying a need, putting together a group of stakeholders, and selecting a site.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Isn't that the same area (old Kennedy Square apartment area) that in this boulevard option they say they plan to put a new 690 exit for access to Crouse and Irving Avenues?
Thus the same area that Miner nixed for the stadium idea? Hmm

 

[xc84]

That's an apples-and-thumbtacks comparison.

In one scenario, there's a municipal stadium authority working publicly alongside the state legislature and a committed tenant to find a physical site for a building all parties want.

In the other, there's a corrupt governor in bed with a crooked developer springing a cash giveaway (in the form of a tenantless stadium concept) on the public in a city that may or may not want a stadium. Totally off the wall, and very different from the usual process of identifying a need, putting together a group of stakeholders, and selecting a site.

Point is...you don't need to know exactly where the stadium will sit when you accept the funding and start planning. Our stadium would, of course, not have been "tenantless". SU would have been the tenant or it could never have flown.

 

[shandeezy7]

Point is...you don't need to know exactly where the stadium will sit when you accept the funding and start planning. Our stadium would, of course, not have been "tenantless". SU would have been the tenant or it could never have flown.

Except hasn't it been floated on here that SU had no interest in being a tenant in a building they don't control?

 

[xc84]

Except hasn't it been floated on here that SU had no interest in being a tenant in a building they don't control?

Publicly, they said they were interested before Miner nixed it. The chancellor's rep.. sent a letter to Miner explaining they paid for the study regarding it and were considering the plan in which they would be a tenant before she nixed it. I do understand that some people here on this board have said that the chancellor was not being straight. I am just going with what was reported and leaning toward his statements as the most definitive stance I have seen on it.

 

[OrangeAl]

Kudos to Miner for not taking the bait on this political stunt. Did you really think Cuomo was just handing out $400 million for a project with no plan and no justification?

 

[xc84]

Kudos to Miner for not taking the bait on this political stunt. Did you really think Cuomo was just handing out $400 million for a project with no plan and no justification?

LOL. She rejected the plan.