Tomaselli admits it was all a lie...

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  1. armory

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    If I am not banned by the end of the day, it is impossible to be banned. I am trying to see what it takes at this point, without going fullblown trashspam-mode.
     
  2. IthacaMatt

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    Bobby has admitted talking to Tomaselli at least twice. So no matter what he says about not coaching Tomaselli, he definitely did coordinate their stories.
     
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    That's not abuse; that's called being gay.
     
  4. Jake

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    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/third_accuser_says_su_coach_be.html

    The above story from back in November. An excerpt...a lot of people have some "splaining to do".


    Tomaselli alleged in his statement that Fine invited him to a party at Fine’s DeWitt home in 2003 following another SU game, and it describes in detail the inside of Fine’s house at 7001 Tiffany Circle.
    Tomaselli’s friend, Rose Ryan, said Saturday she was with Tomaselli and the police at a Marriott hotel room in Albany when one of the detectives read out loud Tomaselli’s statement. She shared the content of the statement with The Post-Standard.
    Ryan said she gave Syracuse police a signed statement that alleged Tomaselli told her two years ago in her apartment that Fine had s e xually abused him in 2002.
    No one witnessed the alleged abuse by Fine, Tomaselli said, and he does not have any physical evidence to back up his allegations.
    Federal prosecutors used Tomaselli’s statement to police as proof of possible crimes when they applied to a judge for a search warrant of Fine’s home, according to a source who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
     
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    Plus he paid that "friend" Rose Ryan with two Oxy's to get her to corroborate it.
     
  6. br801

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    I have never been a fan of the ESPN style of sports journalism, but the way ESPN and Schwartz (and even the PS to a degree) have conducted themselves covering this story has been reprehensible. Apart from the damage caused to the various parties involved, they've made the job of legitimate journalists all the more difficult going forward.
     
  7. Millhouse

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    this board has done a really good job fact checking everything right from the start. ZT's timeline, etc. orangenirvana especially.

    some sort of crowdsourced document could be pretty easily cobbled together that would be the definitive takedown of ESPN and OTL. anyone googles bernie fine, it would be the first thing that comes up.

    it all goes back to one guy's accusations. schwartz orchestrated mike lang's shellshocked involvement and then they coached tomaselli. schwartz should end up in jail for this.

    schwartz should just come clean and admit he was abused. it's why he gets so unusually intense over a story he knew was BS. it'll be the only way he gets any slack over this when it's all said and done
     
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  8. Upstate

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    Tomaselli told me to "Have a nice day!" on facebook a few days before he came forward with his story (read: fairytale) on the OTL Facebook page. Probably a day I'll hope to forget as time goes on.
     
  9. Flacusian

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    I'm curious as to what Mark Schwartz has to say for himself with respect to this development. There could be no mistaking that Schwartz was anything but impartial when this was going down. From what I understand Schwartz facillitated communication between Tomaselli and Davis. That would seem to raise some serious ethical questions regarding the manner in which Schwartz presented this story and begs the question of whether Schwartz was in pursuit of the truth or just sensationalism for the sake of telling a lurid story and making himself look like the second coming of Geraldo Rivera.
    Shame on Schwarz
    Shame on ESPN
     
  10. LoudHouse44

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    I'm going to unofficially nominate BleedsOrange44 for this. He did an amazing job following the case on his blog and this type of document would be extremely impressive.
     
  11. jekelish

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    This admission by ZT really earns him the Captain Louis Renault Award...

     
  12. LennX6

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    OK I am going to go moral here. If "Fab got pushed through" , doesn't that make us Kentucky?
     
  13. Solitude

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    I definitely agree that they have spoken on at least a few occasions. Coordination of their stories definitely also occurred in some degree. Because of Tomaselli's history of telling lies I just don't want to jump to the wrong conclusions early about Bobby Davis's role in coach Tomaselli just as those did to Bernie Fine when he first was accused. Just gotta wait it out, the truth will all come out in the end.
     
  14. JD

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    No makes us like the other 364 D1 teams. Every schools has some issues.
     
  15. EastCoast2

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    LMAO I was there bro, I was there
     
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    So if he correctly described Fine's house, but never even met Fine, then Davis must have told him what to say about his house, right?
     
  17. cto

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    Actually, it was I who brought it back here ... just so everyone would see it. I then posted why I did so (in another, locked, thread)... and asked that all other Fine threads be started on the Fine Mess board. We Mods are a team!
     
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    somebody did
     
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    I'm curious to what degree and specificity someone needs to describe a home to be deemed legit
     

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