OrangeXtreme
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humorous coming from the UVA fanbase that is still whining a year later about Solomon 's soft push.really a lot of whining still going on from the faithful and the orange themselves. bit surprising.
really a lot of whining still going on from the faithful and the orange themselves. bit surprising.
humorous coming from the UVA fanbase that is still whining a year later about Solomon 's soft push.
well, i am speaking about all the ref whining from the time the game started until now. including now a full fledged article, interviewing the wrong guy who would have a complaint about a push/crease call. he even admits he did it. then yet another comment below the article post about the reffing.Ehhh not really. The whining about the dive has been quite consistent all year from pretty much every fanbase. Almost all the bad calls in this game were not dive related so I am surprised that is what the article focused on. Nothing too bad with the dive that game unless you count the one on Bomberry where he pushed a guy lightly in the back and that guy then took three steps and dove directly towards the goal mouth and only then did they throw the flag on Bomberry and did not penalize the UVA guy at all. Yeah I guess I'm still whining about that one now that you mention it.
well, i am speaking about all the ref whining from the time the game started until now. including now a full fledged article, interviewing the wrong guy who would have a complaint about a push/crease call. he even admits he did it. then yet another comment below the article post about the reffing.
the bomberry push was laughable. refs miss calls. it didn't determine the outcome of the game here.
really a lot of whining still going on from the faithful and the orange themselves. bit surprising.
bad calls:Actually a "laughable" penalty to take UVA from 1 man down where they had been struggling all day to two men down where almost every team gets an automatic goal could have very well effected the outcome of the game in a 1 goal contest. Especially when they didn't penalize the illegal dive on the UVA player that followed the push. That certainly had an impact on the game. Refs do miss calls, but there is usually a better argument for why they made their decision than there was on that play. Oh woe is me a single person on a Syracuse lacrosse fan message board makes a single comment about the refs in the wake of an article written about calls during a cuse lacrosse game?? Madness! Surely that is a line no other team message board has crossed!
did someone here really delete my posts????
please explain.
bad calls:
vs. 'cuse
delay of game on voigt
pass ruled a shot early on a trail check
bomberry push
vs. uva
3 first half faceoffs on cuse/withholding
greco hit
seems pretty even.
and off the bomberry push, the player both took off and landed behind the goal --- not an illegal dive per the rules. giving you the benefit of the doubt, you probably just misremembered it.
i noted several times i commented b/c there's been a ton of referee whining, during and after the game until now, including in the local media. the last one was simply just that.
don't believe i'm moving the goalposts. was responding & exactly to my point about how there were plenty of missed calls both ways after additional calls were made both ways.
i actually did see my friend rosie's posts on conrad, forgot about that.
you're right about possession on the dive... and to me that was the one egregious call, syracuse runs that penalty out.
i wholeheartedly disagree with you about greco's hit, he held up, stopped, etc. but i'm sure we'll never agree on that one. the reason why the call was made by the far side official was he thought (from 35 yards away) that he saw a hit to the head (refs explaining to the scorer). likely because kennedy's head snapped back, and there was probably a collision noise. meanwhile, his positioning was exactly on an angle where he couldn't see whether there was head contact or not.
on faceoffs, that was a little bit of a dive probably, but there was enough of a runup on his back it probably should've been called. on 3 occasions in the first half phaup should've been whistled. 3 that i saw. 2 when he couldn't pop it out of his stick first time, while running --- and one where he rotated around about 4 or 5 steps with it clamped. meanwhile uva got whistled for 4, though most or all were different/early and probably correct... syracuse scored on 1 of the 2 manups.
as i said. refs miss calls. they missed a number both ways, it wasn't a well reffed game.
like i siad, don't agree!! but we'll agree on that much, at least. he had to run to get there, then turned to make sure it was :clean", didn't try to run thru kennedy with his shoulder, nevermind a crosscheck, etc..
the call was for a hit to the head. the other officials went to the far side as the other 2 didn't have a flag on it. had that guy not thought it was a head shot, good chance it may not get called. kennedy had 3 or more steps, not zero (not that he could've gotten out of the way)...
anyway, these hits aren't ALWAYS called, but certainly will be more often than not. (just like pushes into the crease!!!).
like i siad, don't agree!! but we'll agree on that much, at least. he had to run to get there, then turned to make sure it was :clean", didn't try to run thru kennedy with his shoulder, nevermind a crosscheck, etc..
the call was for a hit to the head. the other officials went to the far side as the other 2 didn't have a flag on it. had that guy not thought it was a head shot, good chance it may not get called. kennedy had 3 or more steps, not zero (not that he could've gotten out of the way)...
anyway, these hits aren't ALWAYS called, but certainly will be more often than not. (just like pushes into the crease!!!).
like i siad, don't agree!! but we'll agree on that much, at least. he had to run to get there, then turned to make sure it was :clean", didn't try to run thru kennedy with his shoulder, nevermind a crosscheck, etc..
the call was for a hit to the head. the other officials went to the far side as the other 2 didn't have a flag on it. had that guy not thought it was a head shot, good chance it may not get called. kennedy had 3 or more steps, not zero (not that he could've gotten out of the way)...
anyway, these hits aren't ALWAYS called, but certainly will be more often than not. (just like pushes into the crease!!!).