where the 2017 class is in 2 yr will be fun to watch

[upperdeck]

just looking at one site for comparison. Using ESPN

2014 - 13 kids over 75. from this group slayton, franklin, bennett Phillips, several gone or didnt make it. but it was our last class that was this good. and the ones still here are the core of the team.

2015 - 4 kids over 75. Dungey and Strikland , Blair didnt make it. Clausman played little, the rest of the class has been decimated with Clark, Byrne, Ellison and the kicker about all thats left after 2 yrs.

2016 - 5 kids over 75. We saw some of Neal, Riley. Butler looked good until ge got hurt. our top 2 RS and nelson played well even undersized. but 5 or more other kids played big roles in yr one..

2017 - Snap shot right now. 11 kids over 75. If history means anything we either get production or RS out of those top kids and that means on avg 6-7 of these kids make something happen next yr. thats a big jump in what we see from young kids and most are coming in at positions where they can compete without a RS.

small sample the highly rated kids played well, next step will the kids the next tier down pan out with a RS, that when we really see how well this staff is at evaluating the talent..

we cant afford another 2014 class of kids who are gone in 2 yrs.

 

[SoBristol]

Good points.

The 2014 class was good on paper, but too many of the higher rated kids never made it here -- indicating that Shafer/SU needed to take academic risks to fill that class. Cordy might be our best DB.

The 2015 class had more depth and promise than you suggest, if you look beyond the 75 rating. Conway was our best OL this year, Adams started at OG, and Fredrick & Whitner have contributed in the secondary. That class was hurt by character issues -- Ealey & Sheppard played early at DE. These two would have made a difference in 2016.

The yield in Babers' 2016 class looks exceptional. 9 members of that class are in the 2-deep on defense. How they develop, and how the red-shirting OL develop, will be a key to how quickly Babers can produce a winning season.

Get that yield back-to-back-to back, and the program is competitive again.

 

[bcubs9497]

just looking at one site for comparison. Using ESPN

2014 - 13 kids over 75. from this group slayton, franklin, bennett Phillips, several gone or didnt make it. but it was our last class that was this good. and the ones still here are the core of the team.

2015 - 4 kids over 75. Dungey and Strikland , Blair didnt make it. Clausman played little, the rest of the class has been decimated with Clark, Byrne, Ellison and the kicker about all thats left after 2 yrs.

2016 - 5 kids over 75. We saw some of Neal, Riley. Butler looked good until ge got hurt. our top 2 RS and nelson played well even undersized. but 5 or more other kids played big roles in yr one..

2017 - Snap shot right now. 11 kids over 75. If history means anything we either get production or RS out of those top kids and that means on avg 6-7 of these kids make something happen next yr. thats a big jump in what we see from young kids and most are coming in at positions where they can compete without a RS.

small sample the highly rated kids played well, next step will the kids the next tier down pan out with a RS, that when we really see how well this staff is at evaluating the talent..

we cant afford another 2014 class of kids who are gone in 2 yrs.

Interesting that Steven is "over 75" because a few years ago, just before NLI, he was a "70".

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

Interesting that Steven is "over 75" because a few years ago, just before NLI, he was a "70".

I think you're getting caught up in your son's measurables again.

 

[bcubs9497]

I think you're getting caught up in your son's measurables again.

Just find it humorous that ESPN changed it to a 75. Was a 70 (maybe a 72) for some time; over a year after his signing, at least.

 

[Trueblue25]

#shyforkickreturns2k17

 

[Moontan]

Just find it humorous that ESPN changed it to a 75. Was a 70 (maybe a 72) for some time; over a year after his signing, at least.

Still showing as 70 on ESPN... about 90 on SyracuseFan.com.