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Bryce and Manny...

My guess is Harper goes back to wash and manny to Philly for a lot less than they.thought they would get.
 
Briancuse said:
My guess is Harper goes back to wash and manny to Philly for a lot less than they.thought they would get.
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I hope you're right. Bryce is basically Mickey Mantle to my kids.

I am still confounded that the Dodgers, Yanks, and to a lesser extend Rangers, Giants, and Cards are sitting this out.
 
Bayside44 said:
I hope you're right. Bryce is basically Mickey Mantle to my kids.

I am still confounded that the Dodgers, Yanks, and to a lesser extend Rangers, Giants, and Cards are sitting this out.
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I think if they didn't trade for Stanton they would be in on Harper. Teams are leary of giving out these long term deals.
 
Bayside44 said:
I hope you're right. Bryce is basically Mickey Mantle to my kids.

I am still confounded that the Dodgers, Yanks, and to a lesser extend Rangers, Giants, and Cards are sitting this out.
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I think the NYY have been burned too many times with big dollar contracts. These deals rarely work out for the teams that decide to splurge on a long term deal at crazy dollars.
 
Briancuse said:
I think if they didn't trade for Stanton they would be in on Harper. Teams are leary of giving out these long term deals.
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Bryce would go nuts in the new Yankee Stadium. DC market is great for him, Philly actually would hold his feet to the fire.
 
Bayside44 said:
Bryce would go nuts in the new Yankee Stadium. DC market is great for him, Philly actually would hold his feet to the fire.
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He probably would do well in YS but they already have three guys in their lineup that strike out a ton. Adding another guy capable of 150-175 Ks a year doesn't seem like what the Yanks need right now.
 
bpo57 said:
I think the NYY have been burned too many times with big dollar contracts. These deals rarely work out for the teams that decide to splurge on a long term deal at crazy dollars.
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Very different situations with these two. They're entering free agency at relatively young stages. This isn't some Albert Pujols situation. Harper is 6 months younger than Aaron Judge.
 
My guesses
Harper to LAD 10 years 380 million
Machado to PHI 8 years 250 million
 
Toronto looking into Bryce.
Vlad Jr and Harper, toronto would make a lot of sense imo.
 
Bayside44 said:
Manny gets 300 mil over 10 years from the Padres...
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So signing all Machados buddies didn’t help the white Sox ? Do they get their money back ?
 
Machado took the Hosmer route. Sign for the max dollars while playing for a team that is likely to go 10-15 games under .500. Seems fitting. At least he won't have to worry about improving on last year's abysmal postseason performance.
 
bpo57 said:
Machado took the Hosmer route. Sign for the max dollars while playing for a team that is likely to go 10-15 games under .500. Seems fitting. At least he won't have to worry about improving on last year's abysmal postseason performance.
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Like Otto said, getting paid $300 mill to play in San Diego with no pressure to actually compete is a great gig.
 
Symphony Steve said:
Like Otto said, getting paid $300 mill to play in San Diego with no pressure to actually compete is a great gig.
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No doubt. And Manny is quite accustomed to losing given his lengthy time in Baltimore so it should feel just like home.
 
I guess no one has any clue about how farm systems work based on the comments. Best system in baseball. Padres are a year or 2 away from having some of these high end kids hit the majors and then be making no money for their 1st 5 years of service time. Thats what allows for a huge expenditure. That Hosmer deal still makes no sense but at least he's a star during odd number years.
 
chugg21 said:
I guess no one has any clue about how farm systems work based on the comments. Best system in baseball. Padres are a year or 2 away from having some of these high end kids hit the majors and then be making no money for their 1st 5 years of service time. Thats what allows for a huge expenditure. That Hosmer deal still makes no sense but at least he's a star during odd number years.
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Yeah, the Padres have been among the highest rated farm systems for awhile now. I have heard people point to 2020 or 2021 as the years when that talent will pay off at the MLB level. Machado is going to spend the rest of his prime on a roster with lots of talent. I think it is a good move for both parties.

The Hosmer deal still makes no sense.
 
Bayside44 said:
Manny gets 300 mil over 10 years from the Padres...
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He got the contract that the Nats offered Harper, right?

On one hand, I can't believe teams are committing 10 years to one player. Especially one who spent most of last season on the worst team in baseball. But then I was listening to MLB later and they said teams always find a way out. Like Cano to the Mets. Have to pay some for it, but still, they get out of it.

Unless it's Ellsbury. Next year at this time I'll be doing the Carmelo chant for him.

One more year.
One more year.
 
Saw last night on MLB Network that Padres are allocating 32% of their total payroll to 2 players -- Machado and Hosmer. Will be hard to put enough other pieces around them to field a playoff team. Same thing Rangers did with A-Rod in 2001. I get they supposedly have some elite prospects coming but they all won't pan out. And buying pitching is expensive. Wouldn't be surprised if SD has a fire sale in a few years.
 
Chip said:
He got the contract that the Nats offered Harper, right?

On one hand, I can't believe teams are committing 10 years to one player. Especially one who spent most of last season on the worst team in baseball. But then I was listening to MLB later and they said teams always find a way out. Like Cano to the Mets. Have to pay some for it, but still, they get out of it.

Unless it's Ellsbury. Next year at this time I'll be doing the Carmelo chant for him.

One more year.
One more year.
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I think it's kinda funny / sad / aggravating that Bryce thought he's have the Cubs / Dodgers / Yanks playing off each other and instead probably should've stayed put.
 
donniesyracuse said:
Yeah, the Padres have been among the highest rated farm systems for awhile now. I have heard people point to 2020 or 2021 as the years when that talent will pay off at the MLB level. Machado is going to spend the rest of his prime on a roster with lots of talent. I think it is a good move for both parties.

The Hosmer deal still makes no sense.
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It’s still a big gamble.

That talent, as of today? Has done nothing.

But plenty of optimism out on the left coast for sure.
 
Bayside44 said:
I think it's kinda funny / sad / aggravating that Bryce thought he's have the Cubs / Dodgers / Yanks playing off each other and instead probably should've stayed put.
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Yeah, at the end of the day, he's going to make about $33M per year over 10 years.

But there's part of me that smiles that he's insulted by it because he thought it would be $40M per year over 10 years.

I'd give anything to have his problems.
 
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