Death, taxes and another Duke #1 recruiting class

Alsacs said:

He isn’t a good 3 pointer shooter only making 33% of them.

So how is he better than either Barrett or Zion?

It was a bad fit for Reddish because he wasn’t as good as Williamson and Barrett and had to play a game where he didn’t have the ball in his hands and he was a shooter when that isn’t his strength.

Then why would he get drafted before either Zion or Barrett?

It is so annoying how you fight these points just because. If Reddish was another team he would have been the number 1 option and the ball would have been in his hands more and he could played his game.
On Duke he was option 3 and wasn’t getting the ball in his hands he was getting passes to shoot 3’s.

Reddish took as many shots as Zion. If you're annoyed by my posts, feel free to hit the ignore button.

BTW...this is Reddish's game:

"Didn’t always bring it with competitiveness and energy, went through the motions but has picked it up in the past year … Tends to settle too often for outside shots ... More of a streaky shooter than knock down right now ... Jump shooting. Can improve upon his consistency and efficiency ... Shot 40.3% from the floor over the Nike EYBL ... Had a few forgettable three-point shooting performances over the Nike EYBL (0-6 vs California Supreme, 1-8 vs Houston Hoops, 1-8 vs Howard Pulley, 0-5 vs Spiece Indy Heat, 1-8 vs All Ohio Red, etc.), shot 28.6% from three over the EYBL season ... Shot 3/20 from the field and 0/9 from three at the adidas Eurocamp … Can clean up his ball handling as he can get loose at times … Can improve strength level … "

from nbadraft.net.

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Cusefan0307 said:

How about you explain how Trae Young would have been better off going to Duke.

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Alsacs said:

So you just ignore the point that shows Reddish was a bad fit at Duke for his game and just pivot to this next waste of energy debate.
My god you just want to fight. Go ahead and post away.

Nobody has said Reddish would go above Zion or Barrett. You just pivot there to continue this stupid off the rails point you aren’t making but just post.
Cam Reddish didn’t get used how he will be used in the NBA at Duke this year.
Thus it was a bad fit for him. It isn’t going to ruin his ability to be a lottery pick or successful NBA player.
The strengths of his game were not ulitized this year at Duke because he was a 3rd option and the second option was better at what he does.
Duke is only team that this would have happened at. However the kid wanted to go to Duke and did. Thus the bad fit is his own fault.

Go now and pivot this to another off topic point.

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AlpharettaCuse said:

Don't think he was a bad fit at all. Had a good freshman season and may get drafted in the Top 5.

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Alsacs said:

He wasn’t on an all-ACC team first thru-third team.
Didn’t make the all-rookie team.

Ummm...so what? He was honorable mention. ;-)

Reddish is getting drafted on potential and upside which has nothing to do with his Freshman year.

Which is exactly what he was always going to get drafted on, even if he went UCLA.

Duke was a terrible fit for his offensive game because of the roster K assembled. Now go excuse me while I bang my head on my desk waiting for your attempted clever retort.

Just because you say so doesn't make it true.

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cuseinseattle said:

This just goes to show that there is always someone on the other side of an opinion. The idea that Cam was a good fit or benefited from going to Duke the way their roster was or that going to Duke didn't hurt him is the craziest idea to me. I really don't understand the argument. I have seen him as low as 7 on projections. I'm not saying he is going there but good lord he was going to be a top 3 pick coming in.

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AlpharettaCuse said:

Don't think he was a bad fit at all. Had a good freshman season and may get drafted in the Top 5.

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OrangeDW said:

“Good” relative to expectations? No. Not even close.

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cuseinseattle said:

I'm not saying he is going there but good lord he was going to be a top 3 pick coming in.

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PoppyHart said:

This thread has morphed from "Duke and UK must be cheating, there is absolutely no other plausible explanation" to a debate on the relative merits of fit vs. potential and how they inform one's draft status.

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Cusefan0307 said:

The people who don't think Duke are cheating think the best way to get drafted is to go to Duke and UK. There's like a gazillion examples to show there's other ways to get drafted.

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AlpharettaCuse said:

According to whom? If Reddish went to UCLA, where does he get drafted? Does he become Kris Wilkes? Believe it or not, these kids actually have to play games. Ask Darius Bazely. Some mock draft had him pretty high, I'm sure. Where is he getting drafted?

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AlpharettaCuse said:

What were the expectations for him?

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OrangeDW said:

To play like a top 5 recruit and potential top 5 pick...which would mean shooting better than 36% and not turning it over 3 times per game as a forward who doesn’t even handle the ball that much.

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AlpharettaCuse said:

He’s on a team with 2 better players that both averaged 22ppg. Did you see his profile write up in high school?

Inconsistent, doesn’t always play hard, disappears sometimes, streaky shooter. Sounds like he played just like that his profile said.

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OrangeDW said:

So what? I’m not talking about his “counting” stats i.e points per game and rebounds per game, that would be affected by role.

He just generally played poorly offensively. He was expected to be better. That’s why he was rated so highly.

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AlpharettaCuse said:

He’s a streaky shooter than often took bad shots. Just like his draft profile said.

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OrangeDW said:

Preseason Cam Reddish writeup: NBA Draft Room - Oct. 4th: "He's nearly impossible to guard one on one and has a killer scoring instinct. He's got ideal size and dominant athletic ability but tends to coast through stretches of the game and needs to bring more energy.”

Nearly impossible to guard, eh?

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