NCAA finally ready to drop the hammer?

JeremyCuse · Jun 13, 2019

6 schools to be notified of serious NCAA violations

A high-ranking NCAA official told CBS Sports on Wednesday that at least six Division I men's basketball programs will receive notices of allegations for Level I violations, the most serious infractions under NCAA rules, as a result of the federal government's investigation into corruption in the sport.

Janner · Jun 13, 2019

That article came off pretty strong, sounds like they are going to hit some of these schools pretty hard this summer. Its going to be very interesting to watch this play out.

JeremyCuse · Jun 13, 2019

Janner said:
That article came off pretty strong, sounds like they are going to hit some of these schools pretty hard this summer. Its going to be very interesting to watch this play out.

Based on all the publicity from the FBI indictments and the backlash to the UNC slap on the wrist I suspect them to level some major charges. You don't wan't to be one of those schools right now, someone is going to be made an example of.

JeremyCuse · Jun 13, 2019

At least six college basketball programs will be notified of major NCAA violations by this summer

NCAA rules now make head coaches responsible for wrongdoing within their program.

"Those top coaches that were mentioned in the trials where the information shows what was being said was a violation of NCAA rules, yes. They will be all part of these notices of allegations," Wilcox said.

The NCAA had held off on investigations, he said, at the request of the government until the trials were concluded.

"So now that's it over, we're going to be moving forward with a number of Level I cases that will help people realize that, 'Yeah, the enforcement staff was in a position to move forward,'" Wilcox said.

It is rare for any NCAA official to speak publicly about ongoing investigations. In fact, it is against protocol for officials to speak about a specific ongoing case.

In may be with such proclamations, the NCAA is sending a message that it is serious regarding what is arguably the worst cheating scandal in enforcement history.

The NCAA did change its rules allowing it take information from a trial and apply it to ongoing investigations. Previously, NCAA investigators had to develop information for themselves that had been revealed in court or by media accounts.

PauliePeppas · Jun 13, 2019

Sounds like they are being serious but I’ll believe it when I see it.

chugg21 · Jun 13, 2019

JeremyCuse said:
Based on all the publicity from the FBI indictments and the backlash to the UNC slap on the wrist I suspect them to level some major charges. You don't wan't to be one of those schools right now, someone is going to be made an example of.

We already were the example.

Cheriehoop · Jun 13, 2019

The 23 schools/coaches listed in the NCAA investigation - guess which 6 the NCAA are talking about investigating further.
Duke
North Carolina
Texas
Kentucky
Michigan State
USC
Alabama
North Carolina State
Seton Hall
LSU
Maryland
Washington
Texas
South Carolina
Louisville
Utah
Xavier
Wichita State
Clemson
Kansas
Creighton
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Iowa State
Oklahoma St
Auburn
Arizona

Some of CBB's top schools listed in federal probe

Here is a list of of schools implicated in latest NCAA basketball scandal

www.si.com

sutomcat · Jun 13, 2019

Cheriehoop said:
The 24 schools/coaches listed in the NCAA investigation - guess which 6 the NCAA are talking about.
Duke
North Carolina
Texas
Kentucky
Michigan State
USC
Alabama
North Carolina State
Seton Hall
LSU
Maryland
Washington
Texas
South Carolina
Louisville
Utah
Xavier
Wichita State
Clemson
Kansas
Creighton
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Iowa State
USC
Oklahoma St
Auburn
Arizona

Some of CBB's top schools listed in federal probe

Here is a list of of schools implicated in latest NCAA basketball scandal

www.si.com

Assistant coaches were arrested from Auburn, Arizona, USC and Oklahoma State. I would think they have to be included. Who are the other two?

I would think LSU, Louisville and Kansas would all also be on the list. They will probably skip Kansas because they are too big a name.

Duke
North Carolina
Texas
Kentucky
Michigan State
USC
Alabama
North Carolina State
Seton Hall
LSU
Maryland
Washington
Texas
South Carolina
Louisville
Utah
Xavier
Wichita State
Clemson
Kansas
Creighton
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Iowa State
USC
Oklahoma St
Auburn
Arizona

Killdozer · Jun 13, 2019

Cheriehoop said:
The 23 schools/coaches listed in the NCAA investigation - guess which 6 the NCAA are talking about investigating further.
Duke
North Carolina
Texas
Kentucky
Michigan State
USC
Alabama
North Carolina State
Seton Hall
LSU
Maryland
Washington
Texas
South Carolina
Louisville
Utah
Xavier
Wichita State
Clemson
Kansas
Creighton
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Iowa State
Oklahoma St
Auburn
Arizona

Some of CBB's top schools listed in federal probe

Here is a list of of schools implicated in latest NCAA basketball scandal

www.si.com

You can cross off 4 of the top 5 automatically. Those schools bring to much money to the NCAA coffers in basketball.

Hoo's That · Jun 13, 2019

Killdozer said:
You can cross off 4 of the top 5 automatically. Those schools bring to much money to the NCAA coffers in basketball.

Q: How much less will the NCAA get from CBS if those 4 are put on a 3-year tournament ban?

A: They'll get whatever amount is specified in the contract with CBS because it runs through 2024.

They don't care about any sport's regular season TV money because they get $0.00 from any sport's regular season in any Division.

cuseinseattle · Jun 13, 2019

Cheriehoop said:
The 23 schools/coaches listed in the NCAA investigation - guess which 6 the NCAA are talking about investigating further.
Duke
North Carolina
Texas
Kentucky
Michigan State
USC
Alabama
North Carolina State
Seton Hall
LSU
Maryland
Washington
Texas
South Carolina
Louisville
Utah
Xavier
Wichita State
Clemson
Kansas
Creighton
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Iowa State
Oklahoma St
Auburn
Arizona

Some of CBB's top schools listed in federal probe

Here is a list of of schools implicated in latest NCAA basketball scandal

www.si.com

It's not going to be Duke, UK or UNC. That is about all I'm certain of.

SUOrangeSU · Jun 13, 2019

What's going to happen with all those Arizona recruits? Or any of the other schools. I know we have a scholarship up our sleeve. Might get interesting

JKinPhilly · Jun 13, 2019

I'm skeptical anything earth shattering will happen. If academic integrity isn't a major NCAA issue then no way some $ being exchanged is a major issue

DoctorBombay · Jun 13, 2019

JKinPhilly said:
I'm skeptical anything earth shattering will happen. If academic integrity isn't a major NCAA issue then no way some $ being exchanged is a major issue

This right here^^^
Until it’s proven otherwise, the NCAA are a bunch of feckless bureaucrats, too indebted to the system to ever do something meaningful. Nothing they’ve ever said or done has indicated they’ll stop being the amoral hypocrites they’ve always been.
They’ll always pick on the little guy first, it’s how they roll. JMHO

EastCoast2 · Jun 13, 2019

My guesses, in bold
Duke
North Carolina
Texas
Kentucky
Michigan State
USC
Alabama
North Carolina State
Seton Hall
LSU
Maryland
Washington
Texas
South Carolina
Louisville
Utah
Xavier
Wichita State
Clemson
Kansas
Creighton
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Iowa State
Oklahoma St
Auburn
Arizona
Jacksonville University
UMass Lowell
University of Idaho
UNC Asheville
University of Detroit Mercy
Rutgers

Sherman20 · Jun 13, 2019

sutomcat said:
Assistant coaches were arrested from Auburn, Arizona, USC and Oklahoma State. I would think they have to be included. Who are the other two?

I would think LSU, Louisville and Kansas would all also be on the list. They will probably skip Kansas because they are too big a name.

Duke
North Carolina
Texas
Kentucky
Michigan State
USC
Alabama
North Carolina State
Seton Hall
LSU
Maryland
Washington
Texas
South Carolina
Louisville
Utah
Xavier
Wichita State
Clemson
Kansas
Creighton
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Iowa State
USC
Oklahoma St
Auburn
Arizona

Creighton should be on that list. Their assistant was all over those wiretaps and all kinds of shady, and they’re punching way above their weight class.
LSU and Arizona should get nailed considering the public evidence against them. Both should really get the death penalty. I wish the FBI was sharing more of their investigatory materials and conclusions with the NCAA. The NCAA also needs subpoena power to really be a proper enforcement body.

Delmar · Jun 13, 2019

They are much more likely to go after private schools. If they play with big state schools, the state legislatures can cause havoc that the NCAA doesn't want to deal with. I will also be surprised if they mess with the SEC, that gets too close to their great cash cow --SEC football.

SBU72 · Jun 13, 2019

SUOrangeSU said:
What's going to happen with all those Arizona recruits? Or any of the other schools. I know we have a scholarship up our sleeve. Might get interesting

SU wants nothing to do with kids that were part of a FBI or NCAA investigation. Innocent of any wrong doing or not. Can not imagine the headline "SU a school that twice had major NCAA sanctions, today signed XYZ who was part of an FBI investigaton in college sports." Nothing said after that can erase the picture it puts in the minds of the parents of prospective recruits.

kidorange · Jun 14, 2019

Over/under on any schools getting hit as hard as Cuse did?

I'll go over on UL because they're on double secret probation and under on everyone else. Maybe a push for Arizona.

pfister1 · Jun 14, 2019

SBU72 said:
Nothing said after that can erase the picture it puts in the minds of the parents of prospective recruits.

What picture, do you mean?

MaxwellCuse · Jun 14, 2019

I'm pretty sure Creighton, Xavier and Seton Hall can kiss their azz good-bye. That basketball P6 narrative was really beginning to rankle.

Hoo's That · Jun 14, 2019

Delmar said:
They are much more likely to go after private schools. If they play with big state schools, the state legislatures can cause havoc that the NCAA doesn't want to deal with. I will also be surprised if they mess with the SEC, that gets too close to their great cash cow --SEC football.

How? How can the Arizona legislature (which also has Arizona State U people in it) make life miserable for the NCAA to begin with, and how can they do it when the FBI turned over wiretaps that have Sean Miler talking about money? They'd have to sue in Federal court. Do they want to have reporters there taking down every word the state utters in defense of Miller and broadcasting it natinally?

Willy75 · Jun 14, 2019

MaxwellCuse said:
I'm pretty sure Creighton, Xavier and Seton Hall can kiss their azz good-bye. That basketball P6 narrative was really beginning to rankle.

The Jerry Tarkanian rule: if there’s solid evidence against somebody like UNC, Cleveland State better watch out.

kcsu · Jun 14, 2019

The NCAA has no choice this time. This is all about them. I believe that they realize that if they dont come down hard they risk becoming irrelevant. The NC case was and still is very damaging for them. If in the wake of an FBI investigation that resulted in convictions and as importantly irrefutable evidence of significant violations they dont take a hard stance they will have basically surrendered any ability to police their own rules. In short they would be committing professional suicide. They are going to hammer some schools.

OHIORANGES · Jun 14, 2019

I’ll believe it when I see it.
They already are irrelevant.

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