Changing of the guard?

Halfmooncuse · Dec 7, 2019

Jg3 gives us scoring never misses a ft. In a tight game coming down to fats hes valuable

Orangefan1 · Dec 7, 2019

Washington played good but Girard has nothing to worry about

Rautins07 · Dec 7, 2019

He is like a coach on the floor, what a PG should be!

cuseinseattle · Dec 7, 2019

If Washington could give us 10-12 minutes a game that would be huge

SUalldway · Dec 7, 2019

HOFCeluck said:
HW had success as a PG vs an ACC team in the road which last I checked none of our other guys who have played PG have done this year.

Box score says 8 assists in 17 minutes for HW!! Deserves more time at the PG.

OttoinGrotto · Dec 7, 2019

Cusesky8214 said:
They both gotta play. No reason to play some of our guys 30+. JB gotta figure out his bench and how to play more then 5 guys. We will need each guys skillset at some point and JG3 will have games where he can light it up. Washington looked excellent running point but that's not suprising considering hes the only true pg on the roster.

Exactly right.

CuseFaninVT · Dec 7, 2019

Sherman20 said:
Agreed. Ive been skeptical of Washington from the jump. His weaknesses (slow and unathletic) are exactly what we’ve been complaining about with this team and feed into those overall problems/weaknesses. That’s why I’ve been hoping Carey (pre-injury) or Goodine would start figuring it out. Who knows, maybe Washington can help stanch the bleeding this season (until Girard or Goodine can make some progress) because he is a natural PG, knows what JB wants, and knows our system.

Didn't look slow at all to me today. Pushed the ball at the right time, and his slides and adjustments on D are faster than anyone except maybe Goodine. He's more athletic than Buddy or Joe.

Orangezoo · Dec 7, 2019

CuseFaninVT said:
Didn't look slow at all to me today. Pushed the ball at the right time, and his slides and adjustments on D are faster than anyone except maybe Goodine. He's more athletic than Buddy or Joe.

He doesn't have the offensive game but has the same demeanor and court vision as a Tyler Ennis. Washington's biggest weakness is when he gets trapped in the press. This is the only time you really see him look uncomfortable. That can be worked on through more minutes.

The one thing Washington does better than anyone else is he moves the ball quickly. If a man is open in scoring position he is getting the ball . Or if he is a hockey assist away same thing. Washington also feeds the post and plays the pick and roll very well.

CuseFaninVT · Dec 7, 2019

Orangezoo said:
He doesn't have the offensive game but has the same demeanor and court vision as a Tyler Ennis. Washington's biggest weakness is when he gets trapped in the press. This is the only time you really see him look uncomfortable. That can be worked on through more minutes.

The one thing Washington does better than anyone else is he moves the ball quickly. If a man is open in scoring position he is getting the ball . Or if he is a hockey assist away same thing. Washington also feeds the post and plays the pick and roll very well.

Yeah, he got bailed out with a foul on one press today that I thought he was a bit nonchalant, but he also needs a bit more help. Goodine didn't know where to be, or to come to the ball and help.

Mareiniss · Dec 7, 2019

RF2044 said:
Howard Washington looked REALLY good today.

At the very least, it suggests that Girard is going to get a much shorter leash. Not throwing Girard under the bus -- but the offense seemed to run better with Washington at the helm.

Trend or flash in the pan?

In the post-game press conference, JB mentioned a travel call against Girard. From the context of his remarks, he seemed to be saying that he thought it was happening too much, or maybe that he was turning the ball over too much. It seemed like JB was sending a message to Girard by giving him the hook.

007 · Dec 7, 2019

RF2044 said:
Howard Washington looked REALLY good today.

At the very least, it suggests that Girard is going to get a much shorter leash. Not throwing Girard under the bus -- but the offense seemed to run better with Washington at the helm.

Trend or flash in the pan?

Let's hope it's a trend. HW is the one true PG on the team, he has good instincts, and the offense usually seems more fluid when he is triggering ball movement.

JG's skill set is much better suited being off the ball, but he is doing a decent job at PG. I'm sure JB wants his scoring potential on the floor and I have no problem with that. JG's leaning curve is significant, not the least of which is trying to adjust to being more of a distributor and initiator on offense.

Even so, I hope HW continues to get minutes every game.

kcsu · Dec 7, 2019

Washington played very well and he will only get better. He has a solid handle, good vision and he is a good not great shooter. He is the only true point on the team and it shows.
I expect him to get a solid 10 or more meaningful minutes a game going forward.

OttoinGrotto · Dec 7, 2019

I'm hopeful that Boeheim is figuring out that Girard and Buddy are getting too many minutes and it's affecting their ability to hit shots, and he realizes that between Washington and Goodine he's got to figure out which is playing better so they can provide relief every game.

STEVEHOLT · Dec 7, 2019

OrlandoCuse said:
Cool, sample size of 1. That seals it. Point made. Case closed. Mic dropped.

Let’s see how he does against a team that has guards that can actually apply even a tiny modicum of ball pressure to the ball handler .. what we saw Today looked good but I doubt he’d have looked like this bringing it up against that tank from ok state

realorange · Dec 7, 2019

NKR1978 said:
He seems like he’s just comfortable running the point. A steady game manager that instinctively knows how to run an office is something we haven’t had.

Our only true PG.

Interestingly, Buddy called him one of the leaders on the team earlier this week.

OttoinGrotto · Dec 7, 2019

STEVEHOLT said:
Let’s see how he does against a team that has guards that can actually apply even a tiny modicum of ball pressure to the ball handler .. what we saw Today looked good but I doubt he’d have looked like this bringing it up against that tank from ok state

Eh. I mean, better to see a guy play well against somebody than nobody.

81South · Dec 7, 2019

I’m pumping the brakes on HW. Tech looked like a hot mess today so I need to see more to be convinced. He also needs to knock down the open jump shots he gets.

cuseinseattle · Dec 7, 2019

STEVEHOLT said:
Let’s see how he does against a team that has guards that can actually apply even a tiny modicum of ball pressure to the ball handler .. what we saw Today looked good but I doubt he’d have looked like this bringing it up against that tank from ok state

I agree let’s wait til conference play and we play away from home. Oh wait.

MadNY3 · Dec 7, 2019

RF2044 said:
Howard Washington looked REALLY good today.

At the very least, it suggests that Girard is going to get a much shorter leash. Not throwing Girard under the bus -- but the offense seemed to run better with Washington at the helm.

Trend or flash in the pan?

Howard is a legit PG.Girard is not.

Girard is a better player, but the one position is so vital on the court.

Will be fascinating to see how future minutes get dispersed.

jgeorge322 · Dec 7, 2019

RF2044 said:
Howard Washington looked REALLY good today.

At the very least, it suggests that Girard is going to get a much shorter leash. Not throwing Girard under the bus -- but the offense seemed to run better with Washington at the helm.

Trend or flash in the pan?

wrong again. It means brycen might not get much time going forward, which will give him more time to develop without the pressure.

orangenirvana · Dec 7, 2019

RF2044 said:
Howard Washington looked REALLY good today.

At the very least, it suggests that Girard is going to get a much shorter leash. Not throwing Girard under the bus -- but the offense seemed to run better with Washington at the helm.

Trend or flash in the pan?

Washington's play made me think of Lazarus Sims today.

That's a really good thing.

He should absolutely be in the 3-man guard rotation going forward at the very least.

CuseFaninVT · Dec 7, 2019

orangenirvana said:
Washington's play made me think of Lazarus Sims today.

That's a really good thing.

He should absolutely be in the 3-man guard rotation going forward at the very least.

I'd love to see an actual rotation. Give Joe and Buddy equal time to rest. Let Joe slide over to the 2 from time to time. Can only help.

Orangefan1 · Dec 7, 2019

This love fest over Washington is a bit much. He played decent but to suggest he should be the starter is laughable

Day2 · Dec 7, 2019

Keep Girard as the starter with Washington in the rotation. If Girard struggles, Washington gets more minutes.

OttoinGrotto · Dec 7, 2019

MadNY3 said:
Howard is a legit PG.Girard is not.

Girard is a better player, but the one position is so vital on the court.

Will be fascinating to see how future minutes get dispersed.

I don't get this line of thinking.

Why isn't Girard a PG?

Changing of the guard?

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