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I also found the section that shows how Coach White's version differs from the Iowa St. 3-3-5 quite interesting (about 17:58 into the video).

For anyone who is interested in learning a bit more about Tony White's defense while we wait for the season to kick off.

Thanks!

There still seems to be a little confusion about and misidentification of the wrinkle in SU's defense this year. Just to clear that up, the defense is a variation of 1-1-3, not a 1-3-1. Though there are some minor differences in how we play it (perhaps because of the increased emphasis on the...

I watched him play a couple of games last week, including against Buffalo in the MAC Championship. He's got some pretty electric skills, as he can dribble by many defenders and can hit the jumper. He gets a bit out of control at times trying to do too much, and he's as skinny as they come...

One of the reasons players don't utilize the jump-stop stems from analytics. Coaches have learned that the best shot in basketball based on point-per-possession is the free throw. The second best is a layup or dunk. The third is the corner three, and the fourth is the wing/point three-pointer...

Well deserved! He's playing well so far. Q still hasn't reached his ceiling, which is awesome news. As he further develops, I hope to see him: -perform this way regularly against better competition -continue to hit the outside jumper consistently (7 for 16 is a good start, but it's too small...

Also, if Griffin doesn't make a pretty remarkable block, we likely lose. Sigh of relief...

Though I get the spirit of your post (if you're going to be bad at something, make it the regular season since eyeballs are on the NCAA tourney), it's not mutually exclusive, right? A team can be good in the regular season and reach the Sweet 16 or better. In fact, statistics show that 1-3 seeds...

Though I agree to an extent, many have argued that our mediocre regular seasons don't really matter if we make a run in the NCAA tourney. Can't have it both ways. Either the tourney results matter or they don't (of course they do, but they shouldn't be all that matters). Hence, I listed goals...

Agreed. I thought that their size neutralized ours some in the first half. In the second, it became obvious our length bothered them. It also became clear that we should be looking to drive the ball much more (with the ball in certain players' hands), with a heavy emphasis on hitting the...

Our best win so far, including tonight's, according to KenPom: BC at 104. The average KenPom ranking of the teams we've beaten: 188.

Given that the ACC appears to be a bit down, and if we assume a healthy roster once Sidibe is back, a successful year has to be defined as: -a top-5 ACC finish -at least an ACC tourney semi-final appearance -a Sweet 16 appearance Though some might say these aims are too high because "we are...

In analyzing the last two games, two actions really stand out on the offensive end as our "go-tos" for good looks: 1) Marek in ball screens, especially when he slips them (which happens both in transition and in half-court sets) 2) Marek facilitating at the slot or elbow (against both man and...

In short, Boston College is putrid, especially defensively. Simple actions were creating crippling confusion for them, and their players didn't execute basic defensive fundamentals at even a mediocre level. Coach Christian has to be embarrassed and frustrated by their ineptness. We have yet to...

Lack of situational awareness let an opportunity slip through Clemson's fingers (or should it be claws?). On the long reception that set up ND's TD at the end of regulation, Clemson should have let the receiver score. With the extra point, the game would've been tied. However, there would've...

Hey RF! I've been lurking, but work has been keeping me busy. I try to chime in when I see a thread I might add something to using a "coach's eye." I hope all is well with you and yours!

I didn't see this posted anywhere. I thought it might create some fun discussion about whether or not we agree with Coach Boeheim's choices. Quick edit: my apologies to sutomcat - I just saw that he posted the video in one of his Orangeyes Daily Articles threads. However, I didn't see any...

I still have eligibility left. ;) Seriously, though, it's amazing to think that, if not for an injury and a case of poor judgment regarding academic assistance, Triche may have played on three Final Four teams.

As 007 stated above, forwards are required to cover more ground than guards based on their responsibilities as the ball moves. According to Coach Boeheim himself (and, anecdotally, my experiences teaching the zone to players at lower levels show this to be accurate), the two most difficult...

Correct. https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2020/01/elijah-hughes-is-second-in-the-acc-in-scoring-has-a-syracuse-player-ever-won-a-scoring-title.html Interesting point: if SU doesn't make a run in the ACC tournament, they will have missed the NCAA tourney both times they had the...

Show me the great athletes that they have. I have shown concrete examples of things that have hurt our zone that Virginia could not do against it. Those precise examples show that the zone was more effective because of Virginia's lack of athletes who can exploit the flaws our zone has...

Weird? I guess that's the way one can look at it if the primary interest is to echo-chamber a "rah rah." Others try to be more objective, though, and look for concrete elements that contribute to a win or a loss. That doesn't mean I haven't given the defense credit (you apparently have never...

Bacon is a scorer. He doesn't affect games in any other way. He still scored 19, but he is not a superior athlete that changes games beyond scoring. His season numbers show this. Again, nothing you have added in terms of the stats suggest that their offensive performance couldn't have been...

Wow. What a world view. This is your 44th post here? I'll be sure not to read a 45th. Good luck to you.

Yup--at least in part because their best, most athletic player was sidelined for several first-half minutes that he could have spent hurting our zone like he did in the second half, allowing us to build a huge lead that we almost gave up. Again, the offense down the stretch and the free-throws...

I wrote about that last week. They did. Once their best athlete returned to the court after sitting out the last eight minutes of the first half with breathing problems, they erased 16 points off an 18-point lead. We just made enough free throws down the stretch to hold on. Give the players...

I wrote about that last week. They did. Once their best athlete returned to the court after sitting out the last eight minutes of the first half with breathing problems, they erased 16 points off an 18-point lead. We just made enough free throws down the stretch to hold on. Give the players...

He'll be as Syracuse as Syracuse gets after he leads us to the National Championship. ;)

That shows how little I think of Virginia's players in terms of pure athleticism. ;)

The point I made was that they aren't athletic, though. Legitimacy and "top tier" is a different argument. In other words, your point attempts to change the argument I made. I never said Virginia doesn't have solid fundamental skills (I'm a fan of Coach Bennett and his teaching of fundamentals)...

I agree with most of this. One question I would ask, and I don't mean that you have to answer it, Anti, just rhetorically asking: could the reason that we haven't landed more top players recently be that we play almost exclusively zone, which may slow the development of skills NBA teams look...

lol Every team has those games. Never as good as your best game or as bad as your worst, right? They're still a good defense, just like Virginia is still a solid defense despite our ridiculous shooting percentage in the second half.

Great defense? Hmm...that's a good and difficult question. I guess it depends on the definition of "great." I'm not sure teams have elite talent long enough in today's game to be "great." Really good? Virginia's defense is really good, but they couldn't handle two solid iso players at the same...

They really do a great job defending screens of any type. The screener's man helps perfectly, and they rotate behind the screen to cover well. Going away from that to an iso offense was really a good move. The coaches should get credit for yet another nice in-game adjustment. I still think...

You're still 18, right, 79? :)

They are a solid defense, but we have two players that can create offense one-on-one. Some of the possessions were actually strong defensively for Virginia; our kids just made better offensive plays. Usually, great offense will beat great defense. Our kids deserve props for making plays and...

Though I see your point, Iommi, one example isn't a pattern. Likewise, dunking doesn't mean he's an elite athlete against living defenders. I actually like the kid's game. I think he'll develop into a solid player for them. He isn't a game-changer at this level yet, though. Given the choice...

Two things: 1) They're 17-5, 7-4 in the ACC. They're pretty good, but they're not great or elite. Rankings don't determine how great a team is. 2) It's okay to say Virginia has some flaws that make them vulnerable AND that we got a nice win at the same time. Doesn't have to be an either/or...

I said it last week, and I'll say it again: this is his third defense (Nebraska's man-to-man is not the same as Kansas's) in five years. It's only fair to assume he would need time to learn. That said, he has definitely demonstrated his learning the last several games. That's a testament to the...

I want you to know I meant nothing personal towards you. I know you are a long-time poster, and I know you bleed Orange, just like me.

Agreed. Perhaps a better way to enjoy is to not attack others on the board when we win a big game. I wasn't and am not in the camp at which you seemed to aim this thread. I have actually defended Coach Boeheim many times on this board. However, there seems to be an awful lot of bullying on...

I'm quite happy for the kids and the coaches. They got a good win today--one they needed. However, the original post in this thread was not "let's celebrate a good win together, people." It was a provocative post designed to rub a win in the face of those that criticized Boeheim when the team...

Going to be honest--not to be argumentative, but because I truly am trying to understand--I'm not sure what your point is here. Are you suggesting that Virginia should have been better on offense because they couldn't dribble the ball to the hoop, pass over the top to their bigs over the rim for...

And the only reason it was still even close. Imagine if they only went 9 for 24. Thanks for helping my point, though. Because of their lack of athletic speed on the perimeter or ability for their bigs to play around our collapsing on them under the rim, Virginia was reduced to nothing but...

Efficient isn't athletic. Teams that can't dribble penetrate a zone nor lob over it will struggle if they aren't on fire from three. Coach Beoheim himself talks about this in his 2-3 Zone DVD.

This is a fair point. Well said. :)

Why start the thread if not to provoke those that you clearly aimed this thread at?

Hm. Didn't say they suck. But thanks for changing what I said. Shows good logic. :rolleyes: