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Looking back on this season, has Boeheim developed this team, or what?

Two freshmen starters, second-tier underappreciated talents, nurtured into major performers at the end of the season. Paschal Chukwu, couldn't hit his free throws, little was expected of him. Not much more was thought of the starting point guard's potential.

I've always been mightily impressed with JB's ability to turn mostly inexperienced teams into competitive forces by the end of the season. He's a teacher. He did it again. If he can work another miracle on Sunday, there will be no doubt even in the minds of his many doubters that he's still got it.

His amazing Pressure-Zone Defense. I'm not sure how he pulled it off with this group, but once again his players are clicking on all cylinders, shutting down two of the tournament's best offensive teams in impressive fashion. We could see the potential, the athleticism early on, but could they be developed into a defensive force by tournament time? Well, I guess yeah...

TCU had what, four starters who shot around 40% from the three? TCU was, on paper, the worst possible match up for SU in the tournament, with an opposing coach who knew beyond any doubt how to defeat Boeheim's zone. But yesterday, while Frank and Tyus weren't putting up many points, they were still doing a hell of a job on defense, which was clearly a more important contribution in this game. Along with Oshae and Marek, they prevented another more than capable team from stealing this game away from them with open shots from deep.

I think they might be ready to take on Donte Grahm this time...

A lot of SU fans complain about Jimmy's short bench, cuz they're thinking from only one particular strategic POV. In my opinion, I think the reason JB plays his starting 5-7 so many minutes is because he's a teacher, who wants to develop the best five-player combination he can put together by the end of the season.

Short-bench complainers worry about the minutes of the 8th and 9th players, Jimmy's worried about the minutes of his best five, and then best seven players. Especially with a young team. As a teacher, he knows that players learn from repetition, from playing with the same guys day after day, week after week. There is no doubt in my mind that he would still have ended up with the same rotation even if injuries hadn't become a factor. He wants to play his best guys together a lot, cuz he knows that's the only way they're going to be as good as they can possibly be by the end of the year.

We've now seen the results of his 'short bench philosophy' in the last two games. I don't know what Jimmy and his staff say to the players at tournament time to get them to where they no longer want to take any plays off on defense. And this year he's got them rebounding like possessed men!

We don't need to know the outcome of the next game against MSU. Jimmy's already shown that he has masterfully pulled off his little magic trick over the course of a season once again.

Way to go, Jim Boeheim! Defensive innovator unsurpassed, now emulated by the guy who's acclaimed as the best college coach in the game. The way segments of the Syracuse fan base fail to appreciate this special aspect of your coaching talent just makes me shake my head...
 
Yes, credit to Jim Boeheim and his staff for forging two tough as nails tournament wins. And share some credit with our trio of leaders -- Howard, Battle & Brissett -- for their warrior mentality. This team has it limitations, but they play as hard as any group we have had.

Of course, JB will always ride his top players, and insist on defensive intensity. I would not go so far as saying he wants to play with so little bench help. By necessity, he is making the best of what he has. Our leadership trio, plus Marek and Pascal, deserve a ton of the credit.
 
And share some credit with our trio of leaders -- Howard, Battle & Brissett -- for their warrior mentality.

Absolutely. Their development has been the key to the development of the entire team. Boeheim has always known, as a teacher, that it can all come together eventually IF he is able to rely on his most experienced players to carry the load early on and set the example for the younger guys.

Frank and Tyus have done a great job of leading the team and by showing their fearless willingness to take on the scoring load early on before the younger guys are ready. Brissett, of course, has developed just as we all hoped he would.

I think we have a team now that is ready to take the battle to MSU with confidence in their ability as a team.
 
Speaking of short benches...Nevada played 6 guys and won in OT over Texas who played 7 guys.

Play the best guys who give the team a chance to win. Granted this year is a little different due to the defections and injuries but if guys come into the program who can fill a certain role from year to year while continuing to improve the program will remain relevant.
 
Looking back on this season, has Boeheim developed this team, or what?

Two freshmen starters, second-tier underappreciated talents, nurtured into major performers at the end of the season. Paschal Chukwu, couldn't hit his free throws, little was expected of him. Not much more was thought of the starting point guard's potential.

I've always been mightily impressed with JB's ability to turn mostly inexperienced teams into competitive forces by the end of the season. He's a teacher. He did it again. If he can work another miracle on Sunday, there will be no doubt even in the minds of his many doubters that he's still got it.

His amazing Pressure-Zone Defense. I'm not sure how he pulled it off with this group, but once again his players are clicking on all cylinders, shutting down two of the tournament's best offensive teams in impressive fashion. We could see the potential, the athleticism early on, but could they be developed into a defensive force by tournament time? Well, I guess yeah...

TCU had what, four starters who shot around 40% from the three? TCU was, on paper, the worst possible match up for SU in the tournament, with an opposing coach who knew beyond any doubt how to defeat Boeheim's zone. But yesterday, while Frank and Tyus weren't putting up many points, they were still doing a hell of a job on defense, which was clearly a more important contribution in this game. Along with Oshae and Marek, they prevented another more than capable team from stealing this game away from them with open shots from deep.

I think they might be ready to take on Donte Grahm this time...

A lot of SU fans complain about Jimmy's short bench, cuz they're thinking from only one particular strategic POV. In my opinion, I think the reason JB plays his starting 5-7 so many minutes is because he's a teacher, who wants to develop the best five-player combination he can put together by the end of the season.

Short-bench complainers worry about the minutes of the 8th and 9th players, Jimmy's worried about the minutes of his best five, and then best seven players. Especially with a young team. As a teacher, he knows that players learn from repetition, from playing with the same guys day after day, week after week. There is no doubt in my mind that he would still have ended up with the same rotation even if injuries hadn't become a factor. He wants to play his best guys together a lot, cuz he knows that's the only way they're going to be as good as they can possibly be by the end of the year.

We've now seen the results of his 'short bench philosophy' in the last two games. I don't know what Jimmy and his staff say to the players at tournament time to get them to where they no longer want to take any plays off on defense. And this year he's got them rebounding like possessed men!

We don't need to know the outcome of the next game against MSU. Jimmy's already shown that he has masterfully pulled off his little magic trick over the course of a season once again.

Way to go, Jim Boeheim! Defensive innovator unsurpassed, now emulated by the guy who's acclaimed as the best college coach in the game. The way segments of the Syracuse fan base fail to appreciate this special aspect of your coaching talent just makes me shake my head...
TCU had no answer for the 2-3 last night. Our guys were hustling their asses off. How people can't appreciate JAB's genius is amazing. I expect more out of MSU, but if Izzo is spending all day teaching how to attack the zone, look for at least one of our big three to really break out.
 
Agree. I would say that Oshae Brissett has exceeded everyone's expectations, except maybe his own. Also, the young man does a good post-game interview. Represents SU well. Hope we can surround him with talent next season, and enjoy him while we can.
 
In my opinion, I think the reason JB plays his starting 5-7 so many minutes is because he's a teacher, who wants to develop the best five-player combination he can put together by the end of the season.

This is an interesting take and I like it.

On the other hand, I don't think JB would say no to a couple of blue-chippers in the interest of keeping his bench short. I think he'd adapt. ;-)
 
On the other hand, I don't think JB would say no to a couple of blue-chippers in the interest of keeping his bench short. I think he'd adapt. ;-)
If he had the kind of talent that his buddy Mike K. usually has to work with, I think he probably would try to get away with a deeper bench than we see K using these days. I only say that cuz he kinda did that when he had Dion Waiters come off the bench to good overall effect.

But then again, I'm sure he'd be just as focused as Mike is on developing his best five if most of his key players are freshmen...
 
I expect more out of MSU, but if Izzo is spending all day teaching how to attack the zone, look for at least one of our big three to really break out.

Gotta agree here. Offensively, I think Frank and Tyus will be feeling less pressure to carry the load tomorrow, and that could translate into a more balanced attack, i.e., fewer forced plays against two defenders. Whoever has the best match up will probably be the one who breaks out.

The defense, of course, is everything for this team. Last night was the first time I've seen Tyus and Frank master the art of both 1) depriving the opposing guards of penetration opportunities AND 2) denying the shooters the 'comfortable' space they need to take and make threes. They were masterful, and that may have been made possible by the reduced pressure they felt to carry the scoring load.

It's gonna be a great game to watch. If once again they play their 'best defensive game of the season', which has got to be their goal every time out now, I like our chances...
 
Looking back on this season, has Boeheim developed this team, or what?

The kids play hard. Jim's done a nice job of keeping them motivated. I'm not sure how much they developed (at least compared to the norm). Folks who know basketball (including Jimmy) tend to think more highly of Tyus and Frank then the vast majority of posters on this board.

Neither ASU or TCU showed very much. Let's see how they do against MSU. If they compete well, then I'll reassess. Good teams have handled us this year.
 
we beat a couple of teams that aren't that much different from us talent wise, so ... but, the opportunity comes to beat an actually good team. I think it will be unlikely, miles bridges is better than anyone we have played against in a while.
 
The kids play hard. Jim's done a nice job of keeping them motivated. I'm not sure how much they developed (at least compared to the norm).

The way to assess their development is by comparing what you've seen the past two games re: their execution of the zone compared to what you saw during most of the season, especially against teams with highly rated offenses.

They had their moments, their strengths, earlier in the year, but they also had the painful weak moments---e.g., the flurry of threes at the end of big games to steal victories from us. But last night they handled very well TCU's squad of 3 pt. marksmen (on paper) in outstanding fashion (without giving up penetration into the lane).

That may not be the final word on their development, but it sure is a lot of compelling evidence upon which to form at least a tentative conclusion.
 
we beat a couple of teams that aren't that much different from us talent wise, so ...

True, but no one's arguing that this year's team is one of this season's Elite teams. I'm simply talking about what JB's been able to do to develop a team that is so incredibly young and inexperienced. That's what I find impressive.

I think [beating MSU] will be unlikely, miles bridges is better than anyone we have played against in a while.

True, he is the key to their chances of winning. If we aren't able to slow him down, or if we can't get it done on offense to compensate, we're going down, no question. But I still like our chances...
 

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