Battle now with 1,403 points. #31 all-time... here's list

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Rocco

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Top 100 Career Scorers

1 - Lawrence Moten - 1992-93-94-95 - 121 games - 2334 points... 19.3/game
2 - Derrick Coleman - 1987-88-89-90 - 143 games - 2143 points... 15.0/game
3 - John Wallace - 1993-94-95-96 - 127 games - 2119 points... 16.7/game
4 - Gerry McNamara - 2003-04-05-06 - 135 games - 2099 points... 15.5/game
5 - Hakim Warrick - 2002-03-04-05 - 135 games - 2073 points... 15.4/game
6 - Sherman Douglas - 1986-87-88-89 - 138 games - 2060 points... 14.9/game
7 - Stephen Thompson - 1987-88-89-90 - 144 games - 1956 points... 13.6/game
8 - Preston Shumpert - 1999-00-01-02 - 134 games - 1907 points... 14.2/game
9 - Dave Bing - 1964-65-66 - 76 games - 1883 points... 24.8/game
10 - Rafael Addison - 1983-84-85-86 - 126 games - 1876 points... 14.9/game
11 - Erich Santifer - 1980-81-82-83 - 124 games - 1845 points... 14.9/game
12 - Billy Owens - 1989-90-91 - 103 games - 1840 points... 17.9/game
13 - Rony Seikaly - 1985-86-87-88 - 136 games - 1716 points... 12.6/game
14 - Eric Devendorf - 2006-07-08-09 - 116 games - 1680 points... 14.5/game
15 - C.J. Fair - 2011-12-13-14 - 143 games - 1660 points... 11.6/game
16 - Dave Johnson - 1989-90-91-92 - 132 games - 1614 points... 12.2/game
17 - Brandon Triche - 2010-11-12-13 - 147 games - 1564 points... 10.6/game
18 - Roosevelt Bouie - 1977-78-79-80 - 118 games - 1560 points... 13.2/game
19 - Todd Burgan - 1995-96-97-98 - 125 games - 1560 points... 12.5/game
20 - Adrian Autry - 1991-92-93-94 - 121 games - 1538 points... 12.7/game
21 - Dennis DuVal - 1972-73-74 - 81 games - 1504 points... 18.6/game
22 - Jason Hart - 1997-98-99-00 - 132 games - 1503 points... 11.4/game
23 - Rudy Hackett - 1973-74-75 - 87 games - 1496 points... 17.2/game
24 - Dale Shackleford - 1976-77-78-79 - 117 games - 1496 points... 12.8/game
25 - Pearl Washington - 1984-85-86 - 95 games - 1490 points... 15.7/game
26 - Louis Orr - 1977-78-79-80 - 116 games - 1487 points... 12.8/game
27 - Kris Joseph - 2009-10-11-12 - 140 games - 1476 points... 10.5/game
28 - Bill Smith - 1969-70-71 - 70 games - 1451 points... 20.7/game
29 - Trevor Cooney - 2013-14-15-16 - 141 games - 1437 points... 10.2/game
30 - Otis Hill - 1994-95-96-97 - 130 games - 1416 points... 10.9/game
31 - Tyus Battle - 2016-17-18 - 88 games - 1403 points... 15.9/game

There are 14 ACC games left. Assuming Tyus keeps his average of 18/game this year, that's another 252 points (1655 points -#16 on the list ahead of Davey Johnson). Then, there's the ACCT and hopefully the NCAAT. Let's assume another 3 games after ACC play, conservatively. That's another 54 points. That gets him to 1709 points by year end, could be better if they go on a run.

1709 points gets him to about #14 on that list and just ahead of Devo and right behind Seikaly. If he comes back for his senior year, which I think he should, he will set the all-time scoring record at Syracuse.

Quite the career, albeit on middling teams.
 

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If we played 35 games this year and next, those 52 games at 18 ppg would give him the all-time record over Moten.

I’d love to see him going after that, but it’s highly unlikely.
Agreed. I'd love to see him stay. Doesn't seem like an NBA player to me, but will have a career in Europe. Hopefully, he's willing to get his degree first.
 

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If Devo hadn't been kicked off the team heading into his senior season, he had an outside chance of becoming the program's all-time leading scorer. Just silly.
 

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If Devo hadn't been kicked off the team heading into his senior season, he had an outside chance of becoming the program's all-time leading scorer. Just silly.
Someone said that to me earlier that season and I was thinking "no chance." Was surprised when I looked at the numbers.

That would've created an awkward situation since Devendorf got practically a third of a season as a bonus due to his injury as a junior. Gotta put an asterisk on that, I would think.
 

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Moved up 10 spots over the last 6 games... now #21

1 - Lawrence Moten - 1992-93-94-95 - 121 games - 2334 points... 19.3/game
2 - Derrick Coleman - 1987-88-89-90 - 143 games - 2143 points... 15.0/game
3 - John Wallace - 1993-94-95-96 - 127 games - 2119 points... 16.7/game
4 - Gerry McNamara - 2003-04-05-06 - 135 games - 2099 points... 15.5/game
5 - Hakim Warrick - 2002-03-04-05 - 135 games - 2073 points... 15.4/game
6 - Sherman Douglas - 1986-87-88-89 - 138 games - 2060 points... 14.9/game
7 - Stephen Thompson - 1987-88-89-90 - 144 games - 1956 points... 13.6/game
8 - Preston Shumpert - 1999-00-01-02 - 134 games - 1907 points... 14.2/game
9 - Dave Bing - 1964-65-66 - 76 games - 1883 points... 24.8/game
10 - Rafael Addison - 1983-84-85-86 - 126 games - 1876 points... 14.9/game
11 - Erich Santifer - 1980-81-82-83 - 124 games - 1845 points... 14.9/game
12 - Billy Owens - 1989-90-91 - 103 games - 1840 points... 17.9/game
13 - Rony Seikaly - 1985-86-87-88 - 136 games - 1716 points... 12.6/game
14 - Eric Devendorf - 2006-07-08-09 - 116 games - 1680 points... 14.5/game
15 - C.J. Fair - 2011-12-13-14 - 143 games - 1660 points... 11.6/game
16 - Dave Johnson - 1989-90-91-92 - 132 games - 1614 points... 12.2/game
17 - Brandon Triche - 2010-11-12-13 - 147 games - 1564 points... 10.6/game
18 - Roosevelt Bouie - 1977-78-79-80 - 118 games - 1560 points... 13.2/game
19 - Todd Burgan - 1995-96-97-98 - 125 games - 1560 points... 12.5/game
20 - Adrian Autry - 1991-92-93-94 - 121 games - 1538 points... 12.7/game
21 - Tyus Battle - 2016-17-18 - 94 games - 1505 points... 16.0/game
22 - Dennis DuVal - 1972-73-74 - 81 games - 1504 points... 18.6/game
23 - Jason Hart - 1997-98-99-00 - 132 games - 1503 points... 11.4/game
24 - Rudy Hackett - 1973-74-75 - 87 games - 1496 points... 17.2/game
25 - Dale Shackleford - 1976-77-78-79 - 117 games - 1496 points... 12.8/game
26 - Pearl Washington - 1984-85-86 - 95 games - 1490 points... 15.7/game
27 - Louis Orr - 1977-78-79-80 - 116 games - 1487 points... 12.8/game
28 - Kris Joseph - 2009-10-11-12 - 140 games - 1476 points... 10.5/game
29 - Bill Smith - 1969-70-71 - 70 games - 1451 points... 20.7/game
30 - Trevor Cooney - 2013-14-15-16 - 141 games - 1437 points... 10.2/game
31 - Otis Hill - 1994-95-96-97 - 130 games - 1416 points... 10.9/game
 

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with at least 10 games left to play, at his current pace he would pass triche. depending on how far the team goes & how he performs, he could also pass dave johnson.

cj & devo probably are out of reach unless he has a shabazz napier like acc & ncaa tournament runs
 

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with at least 10 games left to play, at his current pace he would pass triche. depending on how far the team goes & how he performs, he could also pass dave johnson.

cj & devo probably are out of reach unless he has a shabazz napier like acc & ncaa tournament runs
8 ACC games left + at least 1 ACCT game = 9 games. Assuming he scores his career average of 16 pts/game, that's an extra 144 points, which gets him to 1,649 points, ahead of Dave Johnson for #16. Any run in the ACCT, and hopefully the NCAAT, and he could easily surpass Devo, maybe even Seikaly to get to #13.

If he comes back for his senior year, he will become the all-time leading scorer at SU, surpassing Moten's 24 year old record...
 

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"If he comes back for his senior year, he will become the all-time leading scorer at SU, surpassing Moten's 24 year old record..."

well that's a rather large supposition and not a given. they don't give those points away. a lot could happen.
 

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8 ACC games left + at least 1 ACCT game = 9 games. Assuming he scores his career average of 16 pts/game, that's an extra 144 points, which gets him to 1,649 points, ahead of Dave Johnson for #16. Any run in the ACCT, and hopefully the NCAAT, and he could easily surpass Devo, maybe even Seikaly to get to #13.

If he comes back for his senior year, he will become the all-time leading scorer at SU, surpassing Moten's 24 year old record...
ah, i misread his current total
 

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Mike Waters, beat writer for Syracuse.com, has an interesting idea. He thinks Boeheim should offer him the opportunity to run the point exclusively next year. Would give pros another view how versatile he is if he were the full-time point guard. It's obvious he'd be real good at it and he'd be the best point guard on the team by far. Interesting idea, wonder if Boeheim would consider it and wonder if Tyus would take him up on it.
 

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well that's a rather large supposition and not a given. they don't give those points away. a lot could happen.
Of course my prognostication is bold. Certainly not out of the question with a return (most unlikely out of all of this), and well within his reach if this team has any postseason success this year or next.

There are 8 more ACC games this year, plus at least 1 ACCT game and at least 1 NIT or NCAAT game, and assuming a healthy body, he has at a minimum 10 more games this year. 10 games at his season average of 17.7 pts/game, that's another 177 points bringing his total to 1,682 points. That would surpass Devo and get him into 14th all-time.

IF (this is futile without it) he returns and plays his usual ~35 games and averages 18 pts/game (factoring out his freshman yr), that's another 630 points.

1682 points + 630 points = 2,312 points. Assuming the team advances in either year in the ACCT, NCAAT or the NIT, he will surpass Moten's record 2,334 points.

Let's hope he comes back. We need him next year.
 

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I don’t want anyone to break Moten’s record...unless they average more points per game than Lawrence did.

Somebody averaging 17 ppg over 4 years and breaking it because they play 40 games a year now, doesn’t deserve it.
 

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I don’t want anyone to break Moten’s record...unless they average more points per game than Lawrence did.

Somebody averaging 17 ppg over 4 years and breaking it because they play 40 games a year now, doesn’t deserve it.

Just like #1 - #8 on the list didn't deserve Bing's record, which was achieved in just 76 games with a 24.8 ppg average. That's why we also maintain a list of the players with the top scoring averages.

How many points would Bing, Addison or Santifer have had if they had played in the 3 point era?

Records are made to be broken.
 
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Top 100 Career Scorers

1 - Lawrence Moten - 1992-93-94-95 - 121 games - 2334 points... 19.3/game
2 - Derrick Coleman - 1987-88-89-90 - 143 games - 2143 points... 15.0/game
3 - John Wallace - 1993-94-95-96 - 127 games - 2119 points... 16.7/game
4 - Gerry McNamara - 2003-04-05-06 - 135 games - 2099 points... 15.5/game
5 - Hakim Warrick - 2002-03-04-05 - 135 games - 2073 points... 15.4/game
6 - Sherman Douglas - 1986-87-88-89 - 138 games - 2060 points... 14.9/game
7 - Stephen Thompson - 1987-88-89-90 - 144 games - 1956 points... 13.6/game
8 - Preston Shumpert - 1999-00-01-02 - 134 games - 1907 points... 14.2/game
9 - Dave Bing - 1964-65-66 - 76 games - 1883 points... 24.8/game
10 - Rafael Addison - 1983-84-85-86 - 126 games - 1876 points... 14.9/game
11 - Erich Santifer - 1980-81-82-83 - 124 games - 1845 points... 14.9/game
12 - Billy Owens - 1989-90-91 - 103 games - 1840 points... 17.9/game
13 - Rony Seikaly - 1985-86-87-88 - 136 games - 1716 points... 12.6/game
14 - Eric Devendorf - 2006-07-08-09 - 116 games - 1680 points... 14.5/game
15 - C.J. Fair - 2011-12-13-14 - 143 games - 1660 points... 11.6/game
16 - Dave Johnson - 1989-90-91-92 - 132 games - 1614 points... 12.2/game
17 - Brandon Triche - 2010-11-12-13 - 147 games - 1564 points... 10.6/game
18 - Roosevelt Bouie - 1977-78-79-80 - 118 games - 1560 points... 13.2/game
19 - Todd Burgan - 1995-96-97-98 - 125 games - 1560 points... 12.5/game
20 - Adrian Autry - 1991-92-93-94 - 121 games - 1538 points... 12.7/game
21 - Dennis DuVal - 1972-73-74 - 81 games - 1504 points... 18.6/game
22 - Jason Hart - 1997-98-99-00 - 132 games - 1503 points... 11.4/game
23 - Rudy Hackett - 1973-74-75 - 87 games - 1496 points... 17.2/game
24 - Dale Shackleford - 1976-77-78-79 - 117 games - 1496 points... 12.8/game
25 - Pearl Washington - 1984-85-86 - 95 games - 1490 points... 15.7/game
26 - Louis Orr - 1977-78-79-80 - 116 games - 1487 points... 12.8/game
27 - Kris Joseph - 2009-10-11-12 - 140 games - 1476 points... 10.5/game
28 - Bill Smith - 1969-70-71 - 70 games - 1451 points... 20.7/game
29 - Trevor Cooney - 2013-14-15-16 - 141 games - 1437 points... 10.2/game
30 - Otis Hill - 1994-95-96-97 - 130 games - 1416 points... 10.9/game
31 - Tyus Battle - 2016-17-18 - 88 games - 1403 points... 15.9/game

There are 14 ACC games left. Assuming Tyus keeps his average of 18/game this year, that's another 252 points (1655 points -#16 on the list ahead of Davey Johnson). Then, there's the ACCT and hopefully the NCAAT. Let's assume another 3 games after ACC play, conservatively. That's another 54 points. That gets him to 1709 points by year end, could be better if they go on a run.

1709 points gets him to about #14 on that list and just ahead of Devo and right behind Seikaly. If he comes back for his senior year, which I think he should, he will set the all-time scoring record at Syracuse.

Quite the career, albeit on middling teams.
If you look at things sorted by points per game, you get a much different, and I think, quote interesting list.

Top 20 Career Points Per Game

1 - Dave Bing - 1964-65-66 - 76 games - 1883 points... 24.8/game
2 - Bill Smith - 1969-70-71 - 70 games - 1451 points... 20.7/game
3 - Carmelo Anthony 2003 - 35 games - 778 points... 20.0/game
4 - Vinnie Cohen - 1954-55-56 - 68 games - 1337 points... 19.7/game
5 - Lawrence Moten - 1992-93-94-95 - 121 games - 2334 points... 19.3/game
6 - Greg ‘Kid’ Kohls - 1969-70-71 - 71 games - 1360 points... 19.2/game
7 - Dennis DuVal - 1972-73-74 - 81 games - 1504 points... 18.6/game
8 - Andrew White - 2017 - 34 games - 628 points...18.5/game
9 - Billy Owens - 1989-90-91 - 103 games - 1840 points... 17.9/game
10 - Donte Greene - 2008 - 35 games - 778 points... 17/2/game
11 - Rudy Hackett - 1973-74-75 - 87 games - 1496 points... 17.2/game
12 - John Wallace - 1993-94-95-96 - 127 games - 2119 points... 16.7/game
13 - Jonny Flynn 2007-08 - 73 games - 1211 points... 16.6/game
14 - Pete Chudy 1958-59-60 - 67 games 1079 points... 16.1/game
15 - George Hicker - 1965-66-67 - 68 games - 1245 points... 16.0/game
16 - Wesley Johnson 2010 - 35 games - 577 points... 16.5/game
17 - Tyus Battle - 2016-17-18 - 88 games - 1403 points... 15.9/game
18 - Jon Cincebox 1956-57-58 69 games 1087 points... 15.7/game
19 - Pearl Washington - 1984-85-86 - 95 games - 1490 points... 15.7/game
20 - Gerry McNamara - 2003-04-05-06 - 135 games - 2099 points... 15.5/game
21 - Hakim Warrick - 2002-03-04-05 - 135 games - 2073 points... 15.4/game
22 - Jack Kiley 1950-51-52 - 79 games - 1193 points... 15.1/game
23 - Derrick Coleman - 1987-88-89-90 - 143 games - 2143 points... 15.0/game
24 - Billy Gabor - 1942, 45-46-47 - 90 games - 1344 points...14.933/game
25 - Sherman Douglas - 1986-87-88-89 - 138 games - 2060 points... 14.9/game 14.928/game
26 - Rafael Addison - 1983-84-85-86 - 126 games - 1876 points... 14.9/game 14.889/game
27 - Erich Santifer - 1980-81-82-83 - 124 games - 1845 points... 14.9/game 14.879/game
28 - Eric Devendorf - 2006-07-08-09 - 116 games - 1680 points... 14.5/game
29 - Preston Shumpert - 1999-00-01-02 - 134 games - 1907 points... 14.2/game
30 - Stephen Thompson - 1987-88-89-90 - 144 games - 1956 points... 13.6/game

 

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How many points would Bing, Addison or Santifer have had if they had played in the 3 point era?

Records are made to be broken.
If Bing played in the 3 point era, that means he also would’ve played in the early entree era...so he’d never have been at SU long enough to break it, just like Melo and Billy. Those guys are obviously the best we’ve had.

Tyus plays under the same rules as Lawrence, except they shoot way more 3’s now.

If a 4 year guy breaks it because they played 25 more games - not because of durability and deeper tournament runs, but because more games were scheduled - that feels kindve hollow to me.

Lawrence was 18-20 ppg for 4 straight years. Remarkable.
 
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