Blocking by the numbers

[rrlbees]

With only the few Friday night games PFF already updated their initial grades after a play by play review.

Run blocking vs UVA
Berg
Ellis
Vett
Davis
Bleich

Run blocking season to date
Vett
Berg
Bleich
Davis
Ellis

Pass blocking vs UVA
Bleich
Berg
Ellis
Davis
Vett

Pass blocking season to date
Berg
Bleich
Davis
Ellis
Vett

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Are there gaps? Like is 2nd graded a lot higher than #3? Just looking at that I would move Davis to G, sit Ellis, and find another T.

 

[orangenauburn]

Is it normal for center to be the worst pass blocker?

 

[rrlbees]

Are there gaps? Like is 2nd graded a lot higher than #3? Just looking at that I would move Davis to G, sit Ellis, and find another T.

After Berg the others are fairly close overall but run and pass blocking added together Ellis is the lowest. One obvious thing is that we are a better pass blocking team than run blocking. Everyone has a higher pass blocking grade than run blocking except Vett.

 

[rrlbees]

Is it normal for center to be the worst pass blocker?

Don’t know. I can’t remember the first 3 games but yesterday it seemed like UVA came hard up the middle. Probably trying to make Shrader make quicker decisions.

 

[rrlbees]

FrancoPizza asked a good question about comparing grades to date vs last seasons grade.

Run Blocking this year vs last season.
Berg - worse by 8 pts
Vett - better by 4 pts
Bleich - worse by 7 pts
Davis - better by 4 pts
Ellis - worse by 3 pts

Pass blocking this year vs last season
Berg - worse by 2 pts
Vett - better by 1 pt
Bleich - better by 17 pts
Davis - better by 5 pts
Ellis - better by 1 pt

 

[SUFan44]

These lists are fine but what is the grade compared to other ACC schools? What were grades compared to other players who faced similar opponents we have? Provides context to show if anyone is really any good besides Bergeron.

 

[kcsu]

With only the few Friday night games PFF already updated their initial grades after a play by play review.

Run blocking vs UVA
Berg
Ellis
Vett
Davis
Bleich

Run blocking season to date
Vett
Berg
Bleich
Davis
Ellis

Pass blocking vs UVA
Bleich
Berg
Ellis
Davis
Vett

Pass blocking season to date
Berg
Bleich
Davis
Ellis
Vett

Move Vet to tackle?

 

[Cuse'91]

Move Vet to tackle?

I don’t think it would go down well with the team, to bench kids when you're 4-0. But, what's the point of having a jumbo O-Line, if they can't blow people off the line? If it was my call -
LT - Berg
LG - Ellis
C - Ilaoa
RG - Davis
RT - E. Cruz

 

[MikeSU02]

With only the few Friday night games PFF already updated their initial grades after a play by play review.

Run blocking vs UVA
Berg
Ellis
Vett
Davis
Bleich

Run blocking season to date
Vett
Berg
Bleich
Davis
Ellis

Pass blocking vs UVA
Bleich
Berg
Ellis
Davis
Vett

Pass blocking season to date
Berg
Bleich
Davis
Ellis
Vett

Thanks for posting this. The other week you noted what their grades mapped to (good, average, etc) - do you have that info?

 

[FloridaFan]

So with the season to date having berg as second best run blocker and best pass blocker, these stats mean that even him regressing he is still our best OL?

FrancoPizza asked a good question about comparing grades to date vs last seasons grade.

Run Blocking this year vs last season.
Berg - worse by 8 pts
Vett - better by 4 pts
Bleich - worse by 7 pts
Davis - better by 4 pts
Ellis - worse by 3 pts

Pass blocking this year vs last season
Berg - worse by 2 pts
Vett - better by 1 pt
Bleich - better by 17 pts
Davis - better by 5 pts
Ellis - better by 1 pt

 

[rrlbees]

So with the season to date having berg as second best run blocker and best pass blocker, these stats mean that even him regressing he is still our best OL?

Yeppers

 

[rrlbees]

Thanks for posting this. The other week you noted what their grades mapped to (good, average, etc) - do you have that info?

For the UVA game?

 

[MikeSU02]

For the UVA game?

Yes please, if you have a moment to do so. If not, all good.

 

[rrlbees]

These lists are fine but what is the grade compared to other ACC schools? What were grades compared to other players who faced similar opponents we have? Provides context to show if anyone is really any good besides Bergeron.

In the ACC for the season

Vett graded 10th at center
Bleich graded 20th at guard
Ellis graded 27th at guard
Berg graded 5th at tackle
Davis graded 19th at tackle

 

[rrlbees]

Yes please, if you have a moment to do so. If not, all good.

Run blocking
Berg low end of good
Ellis, Vett and Davis average towards low end of average
Bleich very low end of average near below average

Pass blocking
Bleich excellent
Berg very good
Ellis low end of good
Davis and Vett average

 

[MikeSU02]

Run blocking
Berg low end of good
Ellis, Vett and Davis average towards low end of average
Bleich very low end of average near below average

Pass blocking
Bleich excellent
Berg very good
Ellis low end of good
Davis and Vett average

Much appreciated. Thank you.

 

[rrlbees]

I don’t think it would go down well with the team, to bench kids when you're 4-0. But, what's the point of having a jumbo O-Line, if they can't blow people off the line? If it was my call -
LT - Berg
LG - Ellis
C - Ilaoa
RG - Davis
RT - E. Cruz

You’d take out completely our best run blocker to date? He’s only played 14 snaps so it’s not really fair but IIaoa grades the worst OL pass blocker on the team and is below average as a run blocker.

 

[SURules]

In the ACC for the season

Vett graded 10th at center
Bleich graded 20th at guard
Ellis graded 27th at guard
Berg graded 5th at tackle
Davis graded 19th at tackle

Kind of telling

 

[rrlbees]

FWIW, the player who graded the highest for the game was Gadsen with Williams being a close 2nd. Think that may have been fairly obvious.

 

[rrlbees]

Kind of telling

Yep. Could change a little today since the other ACC games today aren’t included yet.

 

[shu 49]

Move Vet to tackle?

What I thought. Kick Davis to guard and have Ellis back up

 

[Cuse'91]

You’d take out completely our best run blocker to date? He’s only played 14 snaps so it’s not really fair but IIaoa grades the worst OL pass blocker on the team and is below average as a run blocker.

I don’t put as stock in these "numbers" as you do.

 

[PhatOrange]

T Berg
G Ellis
C Bleich
G Davis
T Vet/Cruz

 

[rrlbees]

I don’t put as stock in these "numbers" as you do.

That’s fair but the NFL puts some stock in them since they all subscribe. Maybe you’re an NFL scout?