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Tonight on the Bob Costas Show they had a town hall like set-up titled "The State of College Athletics" there were various panels.
These included Jay Bilas, Doug Flutie, Frank Martin, Shaun King, former QB at Tulane, Drew Rosenhaus, sports agent, Sonny Vaccaro, former Nike, Adidas, Reebok executive, Tamika Catchings, former Tennessee and current WNBA star, Rick Majerus coach of the St. Louis men’s basketball program, Dale Brown, former LSU head coach, Bill Hancock Executive Director of the BCS, Joe Nocera the NY Times Op-Ed columnist, Doug Woolard, athletic director of South Florida, a former Missouri football player and Angela Ruggiero, former Harvard hockey star. There were no college football coaches, several were contacted but they were too busy with spring practice.
During his segment, Mark Emmert stated that there were only 15 one and done players. He must be going by last year? The whole show tonight centered around athlete/students and play for pay or pay to play. The O' Bannon case was brought up. That suit goes to court in 2013 and could rock the NCAA as much as free agency rocked major league baseball. In 1975 the McNally/Messersmith case led to the Seitz decision which led to the downfall of the reserve clause. Had baseball bent a little they could have avoided the nightmare of free agency. Will the NCAA bend before it's too late?
Most think not.
If you'd like to know more about Ed's lawsuit click here. Back in the day we recruited O' Bannon but he choose to play for UCLA.
The Missouri football player who was born and brought up in the city was talked into taking agriculture courses. Agriculture courses weren't anything he was interested in.
Dale Brown spoke of purposely breaking NCAA rules. He gave three players the money to fly to be with a dying teammate. He said he called the NCAA to get permission to give the kids the money because they couldn't otherwise afford it. The NCAA denied him that permission. He gave them the money anyway's and then self reported himself. Brown said to Costas, I understand you're having Mark Emmert on the show, would you please invite him to sit at the round table with us. Costas said no he will be on a seperate segment with just me. Dale lashed out and said see these people stay out of reach.
Emmert commented on Brown giving money to the players. He said there is now a $6 million fund set aside for incidents like that.
Jay Bilas railed on the NCAA for making so much money off of athletes and not giving them any of the profits. He said that the NCAA was too busy paying itself first. Fiesty as ever and in the attack mode Bilas said, look at Mark Emmert, he gets a salary of $2 million a year and flys in a private jet everywhere.
Vaccaro said he never steered kids to schools, got hot at Costas for implying that. Said he was hired to get coaches to go with the sneaker companies he was working for.
Ed Nocera was all for paying college athletes and letting them get agents before they enter college. Rosenhaus said noooooooooo, I already have too much work.
Woolard said that when USF joined the Big East 6 years ago it was a shot in the arm for the entire university. It helped all of their sports and the image of the college.
Emmert said that only two intercollegiate sports make money, men's basketball and football. He said at least one third of the colleges lose money on those two sports. He added that every other sport losses money including the best women's basketball programs.
Costas pointed out that 13 teams of the 68 in this years NCAA's would not have been eligible to play under the future academic rules, including Syracuse and Connecticut. Thanks Bob for bringing that up.
The matter of playoffs came up, there were 4, 8 & 16 team set ups bandied about. Hancock said they were looking at different playoff formats and indicated that a 4 team set up was something they were studying.
There also was a discussion about when a coach leaves a program that players should be able to leave without penalty. It is the NCAA's stance that the player went to the school for the school. Bilas refutted that. He said when he went to Duke it was the coach who picked him up at the airport and the coach who showed him around town and the campus. He said the rule that makes a player sit out one year when transferring was put in place so there wouldn't be mass exodus' of players when a coach leaves.
Frank Martin was a JUCO, he said the way things are set up now everything is against JUCO's playing D1. Under the current standards he said he wouldn't have been able to play D1. He was asked about new coaches running off kids. He said he has never done that. Six years ago when he took the Kansas St. job he told the players what the rules were. They had a choice comply or leave. He said he's currently re-recruiting the kids at South Carolina and trying to get them to stay with the basketball program.
They talked about the Jammar Samuels situation. It was agreed by all that it was a raw deal. The person that gave him the money was his mentor since he was 12 years. Where else was he going to get money?
These included Jay Bilas, Doug Flutie, Frank Martin, Shaun King, former QB at Tulane, Drew Rosenhaus, sports agent, Sonny Vaccaro, former Nike, Adidas, Reebok executive, Tamika Catchings, former Tennessee and current WNBA star, Rick Majerus coach of the St. Louis men’s basketball program, Dale Brown, former LSU head coach, Bill Hancock Executive Director of the BCS, Joe Nocera the NY Times Op-Ed columnist, Doug Woolard, athletic director of South Florida, a former Missouri football player and Angela Ruggiero, former Harvard hockey star. There were no college football coaches, several were contacted but they were too busy with spring practice.
During his segment, Mark Emmert stated that there were only 15 one and done players. He must be going by last year? The whole show tonight centered around athlete/students and play for pay or pay to play. The O' Bannon case was brought up. That suit goes to court in 2013 and could rock the NCAA as much as free agency rocked major league baseball. In 1975 the McNally/Messersmith case led to the Seitz decision which led to the downfall of the reserve clause. Had baseball bent a little they could have avoided the nightmare of free agency. Will the NCAA bend before it's too late?
Most think not.
If you'd like to know more about Ed's lawsuit click here. Back in the day we recruited O' Bannon but he choose to play for UCLA.
The Missouri football player who was born and brought up in the city was talked into taking agriculture courses. Agriculture courses weren't anything he was interested in.
Dale Brown spoke of purposely breaking NCAA rules. He gave three players the money to fly to be with a dying teammate. He said he called the NCAA to get permission to give the kids the money because they couldn't otherwise afford it. The NCAA denied him that permission. He gave them the money anyway's and then self reported himself. Brown said to Costas, I understand you're having Mark Emmert on the show, would you please invite him to sit at the round table with us. Costas said no he will be on a seperate segment with just me. Dale lashed out and said see these people stay out of reach.
Emmert commented on Brown giving money to the players. He said there is now a $6 million fund set aside for incidents like that.
Jay Bilas railed on the NCAA for making so much money off of athletes and not giving them any of the profits. He said that the NCAA was too busy paying itself first. Fiesty as ever and in the attack mode Bilas said, look at Mark Emmert, he gets a salary of $2 million a year and flys in a private jet everywhere.
Vaccaro said he never steered kids to schools, got hot at Costas for implying that. Said he was hired to get coaches to go with the sneaker companies he was working for.
Ed Nocera was all for paying college athletes and letting them get agents before they enter college. Rosenhaus said noooooooooo, I already have too much work.
Woolard said that when USF joined the Big East 6 years ago it was a shot in the arm for the entire university. It helped all of their sports and the image of the college.
Emmert said that only two intercollegiate sports make money, men's basketball and football. He said at least one third of the colleges lose money on those two sports. He added that every other sport losses money including the best women's basketball programs.
Costas pointed out that 13 teams of the 68 in this years NCAA's would not have been eligible to play under the future academic rules, including Syracuse and Connecticut. Thanks Bob for bringing that up.
The matter of playoffs came up, there were 4, 8 & 16 team set ups bandied about. Hancock said they were looking at different playoff formats and indicated that a 4 team set up was something they were studying.
There also was a discussion about when a coach leaves a program that players should be able to leave without penalty. It is the NCAA's stance that the player went to the school for the school. Bilas refutted that. He said when he went to Duke it was the coach who picked him up at the airport and the coach who showed him around town and the campus. He said the rule that makes a player sit out one year when transferring was put in place so there wouldn't be mass exodus' of players when a coach leaves.
Frank Martin was a JUCO, he said the way things are set up now everything is against JUCO's playing D1. Under the current standards he said he wouldn't have been able to play D1. He was asked about new coaches running off kids. He said he has never done that. Six years ago when he took the Kansas St. job he told the players what the rules were. They had a choice comply or leave. He said he's currently re-recruiting the kids at South Carolina and trying to get them to stay with the basketball program.
They talked about the Jammar Samuels situation. It was agreed by all that it was a raw deal. The person that gave him the money was his mentor since he was 12 years. Where else was he going to get money?
