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Chris Carlson can't help himself

I talked with a reporter from the Syracuse Newspapers over the weekend about the changes that have gone on there.

They'd said that reporters are no longer measured on the merit of their reporting. They are now measured on the number of "hits" their particular articles receive. The more hits, the more successful they are.

For example, a niche reporter that had spent years writing on town/village government issues...or investigative reports...or op/ed pieces, now must write about Kim Kardashian's outfits in order to get "hits"

Reporters were once judged on the quality of their writing. Now it appears they are judged on whether they tell us what we want to hear.
 
I talked with a reporter from the Syracuse Newspapers over the weekend about the changes that have gone on there.

They'd said that reporters are no longer measured on the merit of their reporting. They are now measured on the number of "hits" their particular articles receive. The more hits, the more successful they are.

For example, a niche reporter that had spent years writing on town/village government issues...or investigative reports...or op/ed pieces, now must write about Kim Kardashian's outfits in order to get "hits"

Reporters were once judged on the quality of their writing. Now it appears they are judged on whether they tell us what we want to hear.
I suppose the answer then is to see who wrote the article before I read it. This "blogger" style is pissing me off and Chris Carlson is becoming a football version of a local Doug Gottlieb.
 
I guess he has a deeply embedded need to throw unnecessary jabs at the team he's paid to cover into most of his articles. It's in the first line of the article.

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/index.ssf/2013/05/syracuse_will_face_loaded_2014.html

Am I being overly sensitive here?
No question sufandu is right. Carlson is trying to get some comments on his articles.

He needs an editor or seasoned hand to explain to him the difference between taking unpopular stands and being the village idiot. The 2013 draft went well for SU players. He must have a small amount of brain damage.
 
They are now measured on the number of "hits" their particular articles receive. The more hits, the more successful they are.

Guess they don't care about the number of "misses", do they? Seems to be hell of a lot more of them than "hits".

Sad state of affairs at the PS/Syracuse.com
 
unfortunately we have played right into his trap. I clicked on the article to see what you were saying, whereas on title alone I would have had little interest in that subject.
 
I guess he has a deeply embedded need to throw unnecessary jabs at the team he's paid to cover into most of his articles. It's in the first line of the article.

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/index.ssf/2013/05/syracuse_will_face_loaded_2014.html

Am I being overly sensitive here?

Overly sensitive doesn't even begin to describe it.

Why is it wrong to mention that the draft didn't go as expected?

Because you need your ego stroked at every turn?

Nassib dropped like a rock in the ocean... Deal with it.

For anyone to suggest that this is article some sort of sensationalism or effort to obtain hits is wrong.

The abundance of thin skin around here makes me wonder how some of you survive Syracuse winters.
 
Overly sensitive doesn't even begin to describe it.

Why is it wrong to mention that the draft didn't go as expected?

Because you need your ego stroked at every turn?

Nassib dropped like a rock in the ocean... Deal with it.

For anyone to suggest that this is article some sort of sensationalism or effort to obtain hits is wrong.

The abundance of thin skin around here makes me wonder how some of you survive Syracuse winters.
I thought the draft went better than expected and was quite successful for SU. I had no problem with where Nassib was drafted and was pleasantly surprised by Pugh and Thomas. I didn't allow my expectations to be inflated by the pre-draft hype. I liked where all of our guys that were drafted went. My problem with the comment he made is threefold. It had nothing to do with the subject of the article, it was inaccurate, and it was only included to elicit a response (yes I realize I fell for it). It wasn't good journalism. I suppose good journalism is too much to expect now. Obviously that's how The Post Standard/syracuse.com feel, replacing an excellent writer and football guy in Dave R with a scrub like Carlson.
 
Overly sensitive doesn't even begin to describe it.

Why is it wrong to mention that the draft didn't go as expected?
"Didn't go as expected" is one thing. What he wrote goes well beyond that:

"All right, all right, the 2013 draft just ended, and not in a great way for Syracuse's bunch."

Which is the same as saying "The NFL draft sucked for Syracuse's players". Most would disagree with that assessment.

He's trending to the "dislike"/"won't read" list of "reporters".
 
He's trending to the "dislike"/"won't read" list of "reporters".
I used to read anything in the local paper regarding SU football. That won't be the case anymore. I'll definitely be checking to see who the author is from now on, and I told syracuse.com as much in my comment on the article.
 
I talked with a reporter from the Syracuse Newspapers over the weekend about the changes that have gone on there.

They'd said that reporters are no longer measured on the merit of their reporting. They are now measured on the number of "hits" their particular articles receive. The more hits, the more successful they are.

For example, a niche reporter that had spent years writing on town/village government issues...or investigative reports...or op/ed pieces, now must write about Kim Kardashian's outfits in order to get "hits"

Reporters were once judged on the quality of their writing. Now it appears they are judged on whether they tell us what we want to hear.
And this is why this country is going to hell in a handbasket... sensationalism beats out facts every single time and most of the time it's not even close
 
But isn't "newspapers" or their re-carnations the last place we go for syracuse sports news? I say if you want traditional journalism go to the Daily Orange.
 
I talked with a reporter from the Syracuse Newspapers over the weekend about the changes that have gone on there.

They'd said that reporters are no longer measured on the merit of their reporting. They are now measured on the number of "hits" their particular articles receive. The more hits, the more successful they are.

For example, a niche reporter that had spent years writing on town/village government issues...or investigative reports...or op/ed pieces, now must write about Kim Kardashian's outfits in order to get "hits"

Reporters were once judged on the quality of their writing. Now it appears they are judged on whether they tell us what we want to hear.

this is the direction of all media thanks to a combination of 1) the increase online media outlets 2) advertising changes and 3) Americans lust for "entertainment" rather than actual news.
 
Overly sensitive doesn't even begin to describe it.

Why is it wrong to mention that the draft didn't go as expected?

Because you need your ego stroked at every turn?

Nassib dropped like a rock in the ocean... Deal with it.

For anyone to suggest that this is article some sort of sensationalism or effort to obtain hits is wrong.

The abundance of thin skin around here makes me wonder how some of you survive Syracuse winters.
People are not unhappy because Carlson failed to 'stroke their ego'. They are unhappy because he is intentionally misrepresenting information in his articles in a sad attempt to become more visible.

This is what he how he started an article he wrote yesterday:

"Syracuse's NFL Draft Class of 2013 was its best in more than a decade with three players selected before the fourth round was over."

It was SU's best draft in many years and most of the players drafted went before they were expected to go.

He is wrong on this, and based on what he wrote the day before, he is fully aware of it and intentionally changed his story to generate controversy.
 
First of all how can we take anyone seriously who references Bieber fever in a sports article - for fu** sakes you have to be kidding me (this was like a week or two ago).

Second, the new post standard business model has a very negative built-in incentive to sensationalize and focus on shock value over quality of content. The company has essentially abandoned the subscription model which provides a steady (if slowly declining) stream of revenue that supports a degree of journalistic integrity because people get the opportunity to evaluate your 'product' over the long-term since it automatically arrives on their doorstep every morning regardless of the headline on the front page. Their new model is click dependent. To keep people clicking they need to say controversial things that will invite what can only vaguely be called 'discussion' in the comments section. There is literally no other metric that matters in that business model at least for the short-term. They have the additional problem of only going part way with the transition...so they have the legacy costs of a big newspaper with the printing press, staff, delivery, old reporters who have moved up the salary curve etc - with the revenue model of a blog. Blogs work because they are cheap to run and generally focus on one or two very specific topics. You have one or two content experts and then a bunch of interns working for college credit. But the post standard needs to keep covering local issues, public interest stories etc that cost a lot to do (in terms of staff) and generate very little interest (no clicks). so to compensate they are forced (in their short-sighted opinion) to be inflammatory in the two areas that will generate controversy - sports and politics. In the long-term you will see specialist sites take market share from the post standard because they have no focus and are choosing a click generating strategy that over time alienates the readership base. All it takes is one former sports reporter to open a local sports blog covering area high school sports in depth, one former city councilman to start a local politics site - etc etc. They are doing what they think will allow them to continue to exist...the problem is they are wrong and in the mean time recruits get to read all the garbage posted by the local paper who should theoretically have a vested interest in Cuse not being viewed negatively by recruits and the general public. Dumb dumb dumb. End of rant.
 
First, I miss Rahme. May not have always agreed with him but it never was about agreeing with a news article but getting information or an insightful opinion. With Rahme we always seemed to get this.
Second, I couldn't be happier that the PS has gone the road they have because it led me to this site. I find more information, more insight, at this site than I had at the PS in more than a decade.
 
First, I miss Rahme. May not have always agreed with him and it never has been about agreeing with news articles but getting information or an insightful opinion. With Rahme we always seemed to get this.
Second, I couldn't be happier that the PS has gone the road they have because it led me to this site. I find more information, more insight, at this site than I had at teh PS in more than a decade.


Whoa! You are so-o-o-o right on the money with your comments. Could not agree more with either statement!

I was going to favorably comment on cuseinchina's great insight, but I felt a little more strongly about yours. Kudos to both you guys!:D
 
First of all how can we take anyone seriously who references Bieber fever in a sports article - for fu** sakes you have to be kidding me (this was like a week or two ago).

Second, the new post standard business model has a very negative built-in incentive to sensationalize and focus on shock value over quality of content. The company has essentially abandoned the subscription model which provides a steady (if slowly declining) stream of revenue that supports a degree of journalistic integrity because people get the opportunity to evaluate your 'product' over the long-term since it automatically arrives on their doorstep every morning regardless of the headline on the front page. Their new model is click dependent. To keep people clicking they need to say controversial things that will invite what can only vaguely be called 'discussion' in the comments section. There is literally no other metric that matters in that business model at least for the short-term. They have the additional problem of only going part way with the transition...so they have the legacy costs of a big newspaper with the printing press, staff, delivery, old reporters who have moved up the salary curve etc - with the revenue model of a blog. Blogs work because they are cheap to run and generally focus on one or two very specific topics. You have one or two content experts and then a bunch of interns working for college credit. But the post standard needs to keep covering local issues, public interest stories etc that cost a lot to do (in terms of staff) and generate very little interest (no clicks). so to compensate they are forced (in their short-sighted opinion) to be inflammatory in the two areas that will generate controversy - sports and politics. In the long-term you will see specialist sites take market share from the post standard because they have no focus and are choosing a click generating strategy that over time alienates the readership base. All it takes is one former sports reporter to open a local sports blog covering area high school sports in depth, one former city councilman to start a local politics site - etc etc. They are doing what they think will allow them to continue to exist...the problem is they are wrong and in the mean time recruits get to read all the garbage posted by the local paper who should theoretically have a vested interest in Cuse not being viewed negatively by recruits and the general public. Dumb dumb dumb. End of rant.
It's sad that their vision is so short sighted. In regards to sports, I don't understand how they don't realize that they have ready made built in "clicks" with SU fans. If they don't piss everyone off, we'll all keep "clicking" on anything they write about football. Writing moronic imfammatory articles or including unnecessary inflammatory comments within an otherwise decent article are great ways to lose clicks from us, and SU football is not the type of topic to draw responses from casual observers.
 
They are now measured on the number of "hits" their particular articles receive. The more hits, the more successful they are.

Guess they don't care about the number of "misses", do they? Seems to be hell of a lot more of them than "hits".

Sad state of affairs at the PS/Syracuse.com
Hits = revenue.

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I thought the draft went better than expected and was quite successful for SU. I had no problem with where Nassib was drafted and was pleasantly surprised by Pugh and Thomas. I didn't allow my expectations to be inflated by the pre-draft hype. I liked where all of our guys that were drafted went. My problem with the comment he made is threefold. It had nothing to do with the subject of the article, it was inaccurate, and it was only included to elicit a response (yes I realize I fell for it). It wasn't good journalism. I suppose good journalism is too much to expect now. Obviously that's how The Post Standard/syracuse.com feel, replacing an excellent writer and football guy in Dave R with a scrub like Carlson.

Would you please go apply for a job at the PS!
 
First, I miss Rahme. May not have always agreed with him but it never was about agreeing with a news article but getting information or an insightful opinion. With Rahme we always seemed to get this.
Second, I couldn't be happier that the PS has gone the road they have because it led me to this site. I find more information, more insight, at this site than I had at the PS in more than a decade.
Agreed that the paper being so bad is what led me to discover this place which for SU sports is far superior...but it's actually really sad that the city of Syracuse no longer has a decent local paper to rely on. When people stop knowing what is going in their community it leads to bad things.
 
And this is why this country is going to hell in a handbasket... sensationalism beats out facts every single time and most of the time it's not even close

The really sad part is, it's not really even a "hand basket." A hand basket suggests a gentile, charming sort of passing. We're heading to Hades in a wobbly, rusted Walmart shopping cart loaded down with Ding Dongs.
 
But isn't "newspapers" or their re-carnations the last place we go for syracuse sports news? I say if you want traditional journalism go to the Daily Orange.

Sadly, yes. The information (and even the quality of writing, which is remarkable, since this is an informal message board) on this forum is better than either option. Next is the DO. Sub-Standard is last.

My solution: don't read the crap. No need to give them the hits; 100 times out of 100, any worthwhile information on syracuse.com was posted on here two days earlier.
 
Would you please go apply for a job at the PS!
I impressed you with the use of "threefold", didn't I? The commute from Knoxville would be difficult.
 

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