So, did Ramiro Mendoza win back-to-back championships in Double-A, Triple-A, College World Series, and MLB?Maybe Bill isn't one of the 4 best ever. I'm not saying he isn't but James's list is pretty legit. Ramiro Mendoza has 5 WS rings, suck on that Ernie Banks and Ted Williams.
That's partially because 25% of the people who read this thread are gonna think to themselves 'who the heck is madison and Monroe?'Bill Russell is a winner and fantastic human being.
But he's probably off-base here, and why does he care?
This dopey "Mt. Rushmore" exercise involves four people. Some excellent individual necessarily will be passed over. Madison and Monroe got left off the monument; no one's howling about that.
I have to say - Lebron is the ultimate team player. If you love basketball as a team game, you are really missing out not watching the NBA of this era. Lebron as a player and the San Antonio Spurs as an organization are playing team ball at the highest level. The Spurs are the most enjoyable team I have ever watched at any level in all my years as a fan.
I think Russell comes of a bit thin skinned and needy
Let me know when LeBron wins his 11th championship. I think Russell is right - if you are going to pontificate on the history of the game, then you should know and respect that history. Russell's 11 championships are not so easily dismissed. Wilt Chamberlain might have something to say, as well. He averaged 60 points a game one season. That's just freaking ridiculous.
DoctorBombay said:So, did Ramiro Mendoza win back-to-back championships in Double-A, Triple-A, College World Series, and MLB? Just sayin'...
I think that Miller and Ewing are not as good as Dennis Johnson and Olajuwon. I believe that is partially do to the fact that they do not have any rings.Don't think he played in college, and double and triple A don't play to win.
Does it really matter? I'm not discrediting Russell on what he accomplished I'm just saying he really shouldn't be offended that he was left off a list of 4. My point is rings have no baring on how great a player is/was. Elway was just as good at quarterback before he won. Reggie Miller was a hell of a player. Ewing was a hell of a player. Malone was a hell of a player. Are they any less great because they don't have a ring? Michael Jordan has just more than half of what Russell has, does that make him half as good? Garbage argument by Russell.
I love Bill Russell, but I have no idea why he felt the need to make a statement like that.
And to answer the question posed in this thread's title... no, I don't love it when oldtimers "b!tch slap" the glamorous one's in today's game. 99% of the time when oldtimers complain about anything happening today (sports, music, politics, etc) it comes off as stupidly nostalgic, bitter, tired whining.