Dungey’s Dad

[Trueblue25]

 

[Trueblue25]

orange79 and other mods, we know any board fanatics that’d potentially be open to helping out here?

 

[NKR1978]

Really wish I could afford that right now. Hopefully they'll set up a gofundme for smaller donors.

 

[Millhouse]

Is there some sort of rule about fans sending money to players families after they're done - seems like you could get around a lot of rules against paying players that way

joyce can't buy the euro dudes parents a water in italy because he's playing now but we can raise a lot of money for a guy who finished playing this year?

gotta watch out unfortunately

 

[sutomcat]

What a nice gesture by Adam. I hope he is able to sell all the tickets!

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[dasher]

Is there some sort of rule about fans sending money to players families after they're done - seems like you could get around a lot of rules against paying players that way

joyce can't buy the euro dudes parents a water in italy because he's playing now but we can raise a lot of money for a guy who finished playing this year?

gotta watch out unfortunately

Well, the money is for the dad's medical bills. But I wouldn't put anything by the NCAA. They have no decency filter.

 

[SUFan44]

Is there some sort of rule about fans sending money to players families after they're done - seems like you could get around a lot of rules against paying players that way

joyce can't buy the euro dudes parents a water in italy because he's playing now but we can raise a lot of money for a guy who finished playing this year?

gotta watch out unfortunately

You can do anything you want once a player graduates. You can buy him a mansion. As long as they can't trace the agreement was made during your time as a student-athlete.

 

[elimunelson]

School should write a check for the amount that kid did for the program last year. I think Frates at BC (Ice water challenge) is being kept w great care due to BC and boosters.

 

[DeGrozz]

I don't remember how I heard the story, but I was once told that when Weitsman made good on the donations to the Boys and Girls clubs, he showed up at the locations and just handed over cash.

Legend.

 

[care taker]

Can somebody get collections going at all gates 50,000 fans on Saturday $5 bucks pets is a qtr mill

 

[tipphill]

i admire the offer and cannot afford it---i will donate when there is a site or mr. weitsman has a method of donation. otherwise i would donate at the gate as suggested bu someone

 

[Nick44]

Can somebody get collections going at all gates 50,000 fans on Saturday $5 bucks pets is a qtr mill

This is a fantastic idea. If I recall correctly, I think Mrs. Dungey made a donation to the fan that had the brutal leg injury running onto the field two years ago after Clemson. This idea would raise $100k Saturday if organized correctly.

 

[cto]

Once again, I am the poster child here. A booster cannot give money to a former player because of the possibility that it might be some how construed as paying him for his services at the school. A few years ago, when a former player was having a hard time financially, I was told I could not help him financially. Finally, I was allowed to buy him some clothes that he needed for a new job. I did not give him money for the clothes; I literally took him shopping and bought the clothes for him with my credit card. His entire wardrobe had literally consisted of sweats and sneakers ... and he could not begin the job without proper clothing. I would hope that medical expenses would come under the same category as necessary clothing.

 

[care taker]

This is a fantastic idea. If I recall correctly, I think Mrs. Dungey made a donation to the fan that had the brutal leg injury running onto the field two years ago after Clemson. This idea would raise $100k Saturday if organized correctly.

Who has the clout to get this going
Kind of like the Salvation Army Christmas pots ..

 

[Moontan]

Who has the clout to get this going
Kind of like the Salvation Army Christmas pots ..

Best to check with the athletic department first...
We don’t need another extended NCAA visit.

We can all applaud the intent.

 

[Toga]

Is there some sort of rule about fans sending money to players families after they're done - seems like you could get around a lot of rules against paying players that way

joyce can't buy the euro dudes parents a water in italy because he's playing now but we can raise a lot of money for a guy who finished playing this year?

gotta watch out unfortunately

Wheelhouse

 

[Trueblue25]

Wheelhouse

Really is unbelievable isnt it

 

[Halfmooncuse]

please start a go fund me

 

[rrlbees]

Once again, I am the poster child here. A booster cannot give money to a former player because of the possibility that it might be some how construed as paying him for his services at the school. A few years ago, when a former player was having a hard time financially, I was told I could not help him financially. Finally, I was allowed to buy him some clothes that he needed for a new job. I did not give him money for the clothes; I literally took him shopping and bought the clothes for him with my credit card. His entire wardrobe had literally consisted of sweats and sneakers ... and he could not begin the job without proper clothing. I would hope that medical expenses would come under the same category as necessary clothing.

I’m sure there must be some kind of time limit? It doesn’t appear SU has an issue with the Tim Green benefits and donations.

 

[Millhouse]

You can do anything you want once a player graduates. You can buy him a mansion. As long as they can't trace the agreement was made during your time as a student-athlete.

interesting. instead of wasting money on facilities, programs with money should just start buying cars and houses for players who do well. recruits will figure out the pattern no need for agreements.

it's like ex politicians taking cushy jobs in industries after taking care of them while in office. no need to risk getting traced, everyone knows what they're supposed to do without having to say or write anything

 

[SUFan44]

interesting. instead of wasting money on facilities, programs with money should just start buying cars and houses for players who do well. recruits will figure out the pattern no need for agreements.

it's like ex politicians taking cushy jobs in industries after taking care of them while in office. no need to risk getting traced, everyone knows what they're supposed to do without having to say or write anything

I mean, if you look around the country at the number of assistant coaches there are that are former players... not that they don’t do work, but... it’s sort of the same thing. Especially true in the NBA. John Starks, Charles Oakley, etc. with the Knicks. The number of assistant coaches and “player development” coaches teams are allowed to have... same deal.

 

[SUFan44]

Once again, I am the poster child here. A booster cannot give money to a former player because of the possibility that it might be some how construed as paying him for his services at the school. A few years ago, when a former player was having a hard time financially, I was told I could not help him financially. Finally, I was allowed to buy him some clothes that he needed for a new job. I did not give him money for the clothes; I literally took him shopping and bought the clothes for him with my credit card. His entire wardrobe had literally consisted of sweats and sneakers ... and he could not begin the job without proper clothing. I would hope that medical expenses would come under the same category as necessary clothing.

Who was the compliance person that gave you this interpretation? Whoever it is is probably extremely risk averse. Also, as ‘bees said, how do you draw the line? I don’t think I buy this as a rule but rather as something someone may not have wanted to see happen. There’s just no way you could say it’s ok for a graduate out of school for 10 years but not 5, when the graduate from 5 years needs more help. There are plenty of things going on around the country from other programs that would pale in comparison.

 

[690West]

Who was the compliance person that gave you this interpretation? Whoever it is is probably extremely risk averse. Also, as ‘bees said, how do you draw the line? I don’t think I buy this as a rule but rather as something someone may not have wanted to see happen. There’s just no way you could say it’s ok for a graduate out of school for 10 years but not 5, when the graduate from 5 years needs more help. There are plenty of things going on around the country from other programs that would pale in comparison.

Yup. My guess is the advice cto got was simply a conservative interpretation of the booster rules. I can’t find anything that prohibits a booster from donating to a former player. But from a Syracuse standpoint, with our history, I could see how the compliance dept would interpret the gesture as a possible violation and nix the idea. Unfortunate

 

[Alsacs]

I hope they start a gofundme we can all help and the NCAA can’t stop that.