Actually we're ahead of BC on Skout:I don't think it should be judged solely on rankings vs our peers. Our team needs and recent recruiting should be a % of the grade.
For example - I'm sure we're behind BC in the rankings (without looking, Addazzio bias). But we beat them on the field last year and our recruiting ranking is right there with them. We filled positions if need really well and improved by almost 25 positions in the rankings over last year. They are slightly behind us.
IMO, hacks like Farrel and Dohn don't do the coaches of the teams they're spinning for any favors. It only raises the expectations of an already delusional fan base which makes it tough when the losing continues year after year.
RMH44 said:Actually we're ahead of BC on Skout: SU has the 53rd ranked class, 25 recruits, 1 four star, 2.72 average stars BC has the 58th ranked class, 26 recruits, 0 four star, 2.41 average stars But on Ryvals the Mike Farrel bias comes into play: SU has the 52nd ranked class, 24 recruits (they don't count W. Williams), 1 four star, 2.71 average stars BC has the 42nd ranked class, 26 recruits, 3 four star, 2.78 average stars BTW, because of the BC shill, Mike Farrel, their recruiting classes have always been over valued. It has nothing to do with Addazzio. IMO, hacks like Farrel and Dohn don't do the coaches of the teams they're spinning for any favors. It only raises the expectations of an already delusional fan base which makes it tough when the losing continues year after year.
Great post.It's kind of funny that there seems to be an implicit understanding on this board that we count on getting underrated recruits, even a sense that the more drastically underrated a recruit is the better. Go back to any point during the build-up to NSD and you can't read through a board without someone getting hysterical over the possibility that one of our commits gets 'discovered' by a big-name program and they snatch him away. So we successfully assemble a very underrated class and then evals come out that reflect...guess what...a class that by appearances and comparison to our peers is average at best...hmmm...baffling, I know.
I'm not trying to downplay the importance of perception in recruiting. Yes, I absolutely want perception of our program to change for the better. I'm just trying to point out...you can't have it both ways. We should all be happy with the class we came out with, most of us can see that there are more diamonds in this group than we have seen quite some time...along with that though comes accepting that everyone else isn't going to know it for some time.
Do we have anyone in this class that's rated as highly as either McNabb or Konrad were? Incidentally, McNabb was the only first round draft pick. The other two guys went in the second round.Did some research on past recruiting years as I think overall this class ranks with 1994 when Konrad, Johnson and McNabb came. Incidently I feel the 94 class was an awesome class. Anyways in the article it listed the top 10 classes and also made mention of how Syracuse had, you gueesed it "the most disappointing" class in the country. Funny how those three first round draft picks probably don't think they were a disappointment. Point being rankings are to be based on teh field and by coaches, not rating systems or newspaper men.
http://articles.philly.com/1994-02-04/sports/25857251_1_allen-wallace-phil-grosz-football-recruits
Do we have anyone in this class that's rated as highly as either McNabb or Konrad were? Incidentally, McNabb was the only first round draft pick. The other two guys went in the second round.
It's interesting how they said Tennessee had the highest rated class, and, four years later, they win the national championship.
I've watched the replay a few times. The pass interference call was a good one. I have a bigger problem with the bogus equipment violation calls (there were two of them). One almost certainly kept us from getting a TD. I think they one other game where they had to either score or prevent a last second TD to win. Living in Knoxville, I've had a lot of discussion with UT fans about that season.Thanks for correction on Konrad and Johnson. Also interesting that Tennessee toughest game was the very first game of the season against us. Still think it was a bad call giving them a chance at the field goal.