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Adds to the crowd but also the atmosphere.

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Thats awesome! Thanks Bee's. Maybe they will be itching to let up some pinned up angst.
 
Was hoping for more people. Not too bad though. Good student turnout

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Very impressed with the turnout tonight, especially with the fact that a bunch of kids are probably just getting back and skipped the game (I didn't get to cuse till around ~4).
 
Funny story, I sit in 104 right next to the student section next to the aisle and in the middle of the second half this drunk guy carrying a beer starts walking down the aisle. As he's walking down the aisle every few rows he would stop and yell at the students telling them they're not rowdy enough and were #1 so they should be louder. He then got to to bottom talked to the security guard and walked back up yelling. About 5 minutes later he comes back doing the same thing.
 
Funny story, I sit in 104 right next to the student section next to the aisle and in the middle of the second half this drunk guy carrying a beer starts walking down the aisle. As he's walking down the aisle every few rows he would stop and yell at the students telling them they're not rowdy enough and were #1 so they should be louder. He then got to to bottom talked to the security guard and walked back up yelling. About 5 minutes later he comes back doing the same thing.

How did the students respond?

Did the security guard at least pick it up with a LGO chant??
 
How did the students respond?

Did the security guard at least pick it up with a LGO chant??
Some students high fived him, others yelled back at him and some just sat there. He did this 2 times and as he walked back up the second time it was during the "we are su" chant that the cheerleaders put on and he turned to my row and yelled "we are". I wish I had snapped a photo it was great.
 
If there was at least two drunk guys like this on a mission in every section of the dome, the place would levitate! I was bouncing off the walls at my house in the beginning of the game and for the CJ dunk. Dome must have been going crazy!
 
If there was at least two drunk guys like this on a mission in every section of the dome, the place would levitate! I was bouncing off the walls at my house in the beginning of the game and for the CJ dunk. Dome must have been going crazy!
Just have a section in the third level wear these type of guys can go crazy and not bother anybody.
 
Was hoping for more people. Not too bad though. Good student turnout

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Same. Impressive that so many students showed, given that many were probably coming off a day of travel. Others, not so much.
 
Students were quiet IMO for most of the game. Strange crowd last night.
 
Others, not so much.

You do realize that the Syracuse-Pitt game last night in the Carrier Dome was the most attended event in the United States yesterday, right? NBA, NHL, AHL, NCAA basketball, high school games, major touring concerts, Broadway, etc. We outdrew them all. Here in Syracuse, NY. And it was the third highest attended college basketball game of the season to date.

You may not be but count me as impressed.
 
You do realize that the Syracuse-Pitt game last night in the Carrier Dome was the most attended event in the United States yesterday, right? NBA, NHL, AHL, NCAA basketball, high school games, major touring concerts, Broadway, etc. We outdrew them all. Here in Syracuse, NY. And it was the third highest attended college basketball game of the season to date.

You may not be but count me as impressed.

Oy.

That's not remotely relevant to what I said.

Last night Syracuse University's basketball game drew poorly by the standards of a Syracuse University Big East basketball game. Not by comparison to an NBA game or a Broadway show.

With over 3,000 students in the house, under 25,000 and enormous swaths of empty aluminum from 317 on over (the upper deck behind the north basket wasn't close to half-full) does not constitute an impressive crowd by any stretch.
 
The people criticizing the students need to get a grip. We have one of the best student sections in the nation that could fill a number of gyms in major college basketball.
 
I don't think anyone was criticizing the students - as far as attendance, they were great. I don't know if they keep track of the numbers, but there must have been 3,000 of them. They were mobbed around Gate P before tip and appeared to fill up the overflow sections in 303 and 302.

It wasn't a loud crowd, students or otherwise. But that's not a criticism - it's not a surprise that someone who's just stepped off a train or taken a five-hour drive is going to be somewhat subdued.
 
I thought the crowd was great. 7:30 game, crappy night and we still drew 25,000.

This theory of getting 30,000 for every big east game has to stop. Pitt is in LAST PLACE in the conference. The game, to many of the non diehards, was not as high on the interested list as past games with Pitt have been. I dont know why we are obsessed with the 30,000 number.

As I have said many times here, its not the # of people its how loud those # of people are. I still reference the Butler NIT game in 2002. 7000-10000 people in the dome and it was one of the loudest games I have ever attended.
 
He did this 2 times and as he walked back up the second time it was during the "we are su" chant that the cheerleaders put on and he turned to my row and yelled "we are".

Ugh, this cheer has to stop. These canned cheers that the cheerleaders do (and I am not mocking the actual cheerleaders, its the cheers) are total buzzkill moments.

I dont know what is worse, the cheer itself or having to wait for it because of the 4 minutes of advertising that they cram in before the cheer.

Just let the damn band play the freaking hey song. It works, gets the crowd fired up and the place is rocking.
 
I still reference the Butler NIT game in 2002. 7000-10000 people in the dome and it was one of the loudest games I have ever attended.

I was at that game and this is true.
 
I was at that game and this is true.

Ditto. That place was a madhouse, with not even enough to fill Manley.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, last year's Villanova game and the 2003 Rutgers game. 33,000 silent observers.
 
Last night Syracuse University's basketball game drew poorly by the standards of a Syracuse University Big East basketball game. Not by comparison to an NBA game or a Broadway show.

What are the 'standards'? Someone would have to crunch the numbers but I would bet that last nights attendance of 24,800 is above the average of Syracuse University Big East basketball games at the Carrier Dome going back to when it opened in 1983.

Not sure what standards you are using when you are ragging on attendance but comparing current season attendance to seasons 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 years ago is what is not relevant. I think it was '86-'87 were we hit the high water mark at 27K per game. In '87 you could buy youth tix for $5 today they are $22 for BE games. In '87 every game was not on television. In '87 there were not 30 college basketball games on tv each week. In '87 there were 100,000 more people in Central NY. In '87 we played each BE team at home and the talent on those teams was not diluted as it is today.

As far as relevance of the other things such as the NBA, Broadway, etc it is relevant to pay attention to what is going on there - it is all part of the same industry. Attendance at EVERYTHING across the country is down over the past decade plus...how can Syracuse basketball possibly be insulated from that? So many factors go into attendance on a game by game basis. Drawing just about 25K to that game last night is damn impressive.

As Marsh said getting 30K for every game is not, and has never been, realistic. Going back to 1992 there has been only one season (2002-2003 NC team) where they have topped 30K more than twice. This year the UConn and Lville games are already at 30K and they are weeks away from being played.

 
It was a poor turn-out by syracuse standards because the student section was practically full, and yet we didn't even break 25k. If the townies would have showed up, it would have been 28K+ easily.
 
So many factors go into attendance on a game by game basis. Drawing just about 25K to that game last night is damn impressive.

As Marsh said getting 30K for every game is not, and has never been, realistic. Going back to 1992 there has been only one season (2002-2003 NC team) where they have topped 30K more than twice. This year the UConn and Lville games are already at 30K and they are weeks away from being played.

You're right, there are a ton of factors affecting each game's attendance.

Still, consider 26,904 for Georgetown last year, midweek, as we were playing bad basketball and a week removed from a four-game losing streak. And, just three weeks ago, 25,081 for Seton Hall on a chilly Wednesday night, without any students in town.

I agree that 30,000 is unreasonable for a midweek game; we haven't seen that since 1990 and probably won't see it again. But I'm pretty surprised that we can't draw something close to last year's Georgetown game, considering the circumstances.

One would think that even casual fans would be lining up to see a #1 Syracuse team take a shot at reaching 20-0 against a hateable nemesis. It's pretty startling to see a couple thousand empty seats above the north basket for such a compelling game.

I'm not criticizing the fans who were there, nor am I personally criticizing those who couldn't travel from afar or didn't want to spend the money. But that wasn't the turnout one would have expected for such a game.
 

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