How's the transfer portal ledger looking for SU?

[RF2044]

So looking at the transfer ledger, here's how I view the roster changes.

Symir < Westry -- pretty easy one here.

Girard < JJ -- I know that this will be controversial opinion to some, and at the very least the numbers don't bear that out, but one is gifted offensively / limited defensively, and the other is a former McD's All American 5-star recruit. For what our coaching staff wants to do, I think we net gained.

JBA < open scholarship -- with all due respect to Jon Bol being great teammate / having a great attitude, having the open roster spot is a bigger "asset."


All positive roster developments thus far, IMO. Then we have...


Jesse > open scholarship -- outcome TBD, depending on how we fill this hole.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

So looking at the transfer ledger, here's how I view the roster changes.

Symir < Westry -- pretty easy one here.

Girard < JJ -- I know that this will be controversial opinion to some, and at the very least the numbers don't bear that out, but one is gifted offensively / limited defensively, and the other is a former McD's All American 5-star recruit. For what our coaching staff wants to do, I think we net gained.

JBA < open scholarship -- with all due respect to Jon Bol being great teammate / having a great attitude, having the open roster spot is a bigger "asset."


All positive roster developments thus far, IMO. Then we have...


Jesse > open scholarship -- outcome TBD, depending on how we fill this hole.

Patterson effectively took JBA’s spot. Probably equal swap if we’re being honest.

 

[SUOrangeSU]

#’s wise, we might not win out with the center but the new center might work better with a m2m, uptempo type offense/defense. We will see. I’d kill for a outside threat center who could clear space for Benny to operate in the paint

 

[OrlandoCuse]

#’s wise, we might not win out with the center but the new center might work better with a m2m, uptempo type offense/defense. We will see. I’d kill for a outside threat center who could clear space for Benny to operate in the paint

Even with adding a center, I still feel we’re weak / thin at forward especially from a rebounding standpoint.

 

[Dick_in_MI]

I'm more in the TBD category with Joe vs JJ. I think that JJ's overall potential is higher, but "potential" is simply another word for "it hasn't happened yet." It may and it may not.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I prefer us to have Cs who are 6'9, big bodied, and can grab rebounds vs tall and lanky guys who seem to rarely pan out.

 

[AZOrange]

#’s wise, we might not win out with the center but the new center might work better with a m2m, uptempo type offense/defense. We will see. I’d kill for a outside threat center who could clear space for Benny to operate in the paint

Benny is not going to operate in the paint. We know that. We need a defensive presence

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

I prefer us to have Cs who are 6'9, big bodied, and can grab rebounds vs tall and lanky guys who seem to rarely pan out.

Agree especially going away from the zone.

North Texas kid looks good him with Hima and Brown should be enough size. Williams is getting his minutes at the 4.

Carey and Patterson might enter the mix.

Teams still pretty young though we could have used a veteran older guy at center.

 

[CardiacCuse]

Chance, JJ and "portal center" for Girard and Edwards??? yes, please.

if Judah returns the backourt will be electric.

 

[Newhouser]

Benny is not going to operate in the paint. We know that. We need a defensive presence

I agree - this thought that Benny needs room to operate baffles me. We need him to pressure the paint and defend, but thus far he's a three point shooter.

 

[RF2044]

I agree - this thought that Benny needs room to operate baffles me. We need him to pressure the paint and defend, but thus far he's a three point shooter.

That's because he's a 'tweener

Hope he finds a bit more consistency in year 3, now that he's got more game experience.

 

[tptcuse]

I agree - this thought that Benny needs room to operate baffles me. We need him to pressure the paint and defend, but thus far he's a three point shooter.

It might actually work out with him, as we are going to need him as a three point threat.

 

[OrangeDW]

It might actually work out with him, as we are going to need him as a three point threat.

“Stretch 4”?!!

 

[UpstateSM]

That's because he's a 'tweener

Hope he finds a bit more consistency in year 3, now that he's got more game experience.

And a coach that he responds to

 

[Cusefan0307]

#’s wise, we might not win out with the center but the new center might work better with a m2m, uptempo type offense/defense. We will see. I’d kill for a outside threat center who could clear space for Benny to operate in the paint

Benny’s role on this team appears to be James Southerland.

 

[two3zone]

So looking at the transfer ledger, here's how I view the roster changes.

Symir < Westry -- pretty easy one here.

Girard < JJ -- I know that this will be controversial opinion to some, and at the very least the numbers don't bear that out, but one is gifted offensively / limited defensively, and the other is a former McD's All American 5-star recruit. For what our coaching staff wants to do, I think we net gained.

JBA < open scholarship -- with all due respect to Jon Bol being great teammate / having a great attitude, having the open roster spot is a bigger "asset."


All positive roster developments thus far, IMO. Then we have...


Jesse > open scholarship -- outcome TBD, depending on how we fill this hole.

Don’t disagree, but JJ wasn’t great last year, maybe with Reds coaching style he’ll play at a high level. Very well could be a upgrade over Joe, but time will tell. I think our defense will be really good.

 

[jdubs30]

Until we fill the center spot, it’s an incomplete with a lean towards a net negative (assuming Judah leaves).

I love the potential guard play. I think Benny will have a really nice year. I think Maliq will be very steady and also improved. But If those are 2 are going to be our 2 best bigs, we’re in trouble. I think we’ll be good guarding the perimeter but we won’t have much rim protection or rebounding. I think Hima is an ok back up at 10mpg.

I know Jesse ended up being somewhat decisive here as far as how good he actually was. But he will be a huge loss unless we land a big.
If we get Cisse, it’s an A++ if Judah comes back.

I do think Red is going the Miami style. A bunch of guards who penetrate, and all 5 defenders are mobile, can switch, and aggressively rebound.

 

[two3zone]

I do think Red is going the Miami style. A bunch of guards who penetrate, and all 5 defenders are mobile, can switch, and aggressively rebound.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Don’t disagree, but JJ wasn’t great last year, maybe with Reds coaching style he’ll play at a high level. Very well could be a upgrade over Joe, but time will tell. I think our defense will be really good.

He will instantly be an upgrade on the defensive end

 

[Orangezoo]

Ditto

 

[phil77]

Benny is not going to operate in the paint. We know that. We need a defensive presence

Cisse and the 4 out offense with him setting ball screens and rim running seems like it would be a very enjoyable experience. Ball pressure defense with Cisse guarding the rim...

So much fun !

 

[Cusefan0307]

I think we are a little bit obsessed with getting a true center. If we are playing man and not zone we don’t automatically need a 7 foot rim protector. There’s many teams at the college and professional level who are successful without playing a true center.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

I think we are a little bit obsessed with getting a true center. If we are playing man and not zone we don’t automatically need a 7 foot rim protector. There’s many teams at the college and professional level who are successful without playing a true center.

Regardless, we need some size and rebounding ability down low. Brown, Benny and Hima aren’t enough.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Regardless, we need some size and rebounding ability down low. Brown, Benny and Hima aren’t enough.

I agree, but if we get someone who’s 6’8“ or 6’9” that’s a good defender and elite rebounder that’s all you really need.

 

[Orangefan1]

We need a Lydon type of player on this roster at forward. Someone that can stretch the floor and rebound..I don’t see it with our current roster at forward. I’m shocked if we don’t add a forward but it seems like we are content at that position