Improvements In Both Defense And Offense...

[ORRange]

no it was the stats that were posted on how much we were ahead or behind when K came in.

Well, I'd like to see how many we were behind or ahead when Kadary starts and Joe comes in.

 

[rrlbees]

Thanks , either way. Thats not the way Bees made it out.

it wasn’t? How did I make it out? I had posted the same thing from the beginning of the season.

 

[ORRange]

You made it out the way you want it to look. Now you want to see all the tweets from Gutierrez. Got to leave now but let me know, its good reading. I can post them later.

 

[rrlbees]

You made it out the way you want it to look. Now you want to see all the tweets from Gutierrez. Got to leave now but let me know, its good reading. I can post them later.

why are you trying to change the question? My post replied to a specific comment. You’re the one now twisting it to make it look the way you want.

Here’s my original post in February about the same topic as here.


Post in thread 'We have won 6 of our last 8 games'
We have won 6 of our last 8 games

 

[rrlbees]

Idk I still hold my breath in the first 8 minutes of each half, hoping we don’t dig a hole until the bench gets in. It wasn’t too long ago that we had posts complaining that kadary never gets to enter the game with a lead.

you too


Post in thread 'We have won 6 of our last 8 games'
We have won 6 of our last 8 games

 

[ORRange]

why are you trying to change the question? My post replied to a specific comment. You’re the one now twisting it to make it look the way you want.

Here’s my original post in February about the same topic as here.


Post in thread 'We have won 6 of our last 8 games'
We have won 6 of our last 8 games

I'm not changing anything. I want Kadary to start. Period. You said it was PROVEN that we don't get off to bad starts. My point is that its not proven until Kadary starts games. I tnink its a fact that we are more efficient when he plays so why start him. You have a Joe agenda. So, later I'll show you the tweets to prove my agenda.

 

[rrlbees]

I'm not changing anything. I want Kadary to start. Period. You said it was PROVEN that we don't get off to bad starts. My point is that its not proven until Kadary starts games. I tnink its a fact that we are more efficient when he plays so why start him. You have a Joe agenda. So, later I'll show you the tweets to prove my agenda.

you might want to go back to the post I responded to in this thread and then my response. You’re a bit confused. And no, I don’t have a Joe agenda since all around, I think K is a better PG but I understand why JB starts him.

 

[Cusesky8214]

 

[Cusesky8214]

This particular part from a ACC coach is interesting...

 

[Bball44]

Did any of them say "fluke" ?

 

[rrlbees]

This particular part from a ACC coach is interesting...

so who does Zach think should be on the bench? Q or Marek?

 

[malpearl31]

no it was the stats that were posted on how much we were ahead or behind when K came in.

Here is an update to my early Feb post about time and score when Kadary first checked into the game this season:

• 1/6 Pitt - 12:48 1st H - 17-6, SU (+11)
• 1/9 Gtown - 11:10 1st H - 16-16 tie (0)
• 1/12 @ UNC - 11:43 1st H - 16-15, UNC (-1)
• 1/16 @ Pitt - 10:30 1st H - 15-9, SU (+6)
• 1/19 Miami - 13:10 1st H - 11-2, Miami (-9)
• 1/23 VaTech - 11:00 1st H - 15-13, SU (+2)
• 1/25 @ UVa - 12:42 1st H - 14-6, UVa (-8)
• 1/31 NC St - 11:28 1st H - 20-19, SU (+1)
• 2/6 @ Clemson - 14:20 1st H - 15-5, Clemson (-10)
• 2/9 @ NC St - 12:11 1st H - 16-14, NC St (-2)
• 2/13 BC - 10:49 1st H - 25-15, SU (+10)
• 2/20 ND - 13:41 1st H - 17-9, ND (-8)
• 2/22 @ Duke - 13:25 1st H - 18-10, Duke (-8)
• 2/27 @ Ga Tech - 14:41 1st H - 17-8, Ga Tech (-9)
• 3/1 UNC - 14:53 1st H - 11-4, UNC (-7)
• 3/3 Clemson - 15:46 1st H - 3-2, SU (+1)
• 3/10 NC St (ACC Tourney) - 9:03 1st H - 28-23, SU (+5)
• 3/11 UVa (ACC Tourney) - 8:13 1st H - 30-22, SU (+8)
• 3/19 SD St (NCAA) - 11:08 1st H - 15-14, SD St (-1)
• 3/21 WVa (NCAA) - 8:47 1st H - 26-12, SU (+14)

So, in the 20 games that SU has played in calendar year 2021, we have held the lead 9 times when Kadary first entered the game, we've trailed 10 times, and we've been tied once. The average score over the course of those 20 games is a deficit of -0.25 points (the net total is -5 over the entire 20 game stretch).

 

[Cusesky8214]

so who does Zach think should be on the bench? Q or Marek?

No clue why don't you ask him? I just shared what a coach in the ACC thought about our success lately. I would guess that Zach thinks Marek and Q should continue to start and continue bringing in guys off the bench like JB has been doing.

 

[rrlbees]

No clue why don't you ask him? I just shared what a coach in the ACC thought about our success lately. I would guess that Zach thinks Marek and Q should continue to start and continue bringing in guys off the bench like JB has been doing.

you actually think I was asking you specifically? It was a factitious question.

 

[rrlbees]

Here is an update to my early Feb post about time and score when Kadary first checked into the game this season:

• 1/6 Pitt - 12:48 1st H - 17-6, SU (+11)
• 1/9 Gtown - 11:10 1st H - 16-16 tie (0)
• 1/12 @ UNC - 11:43 1st H - 16-15, UNC (-1)
• 1/16 @ Pitt - 10:30 1st H - 15-9, SU (+6)
• 1/19 Miami - 13:10 1st H - 11-2, Miami (-9)
• 1/23 VaTech - 11:00 1st H - 15-13, SU (+2)
• 1/25 @ UVa - 12:42 1st H - 14-6, UVa (-8)
• 1/31 NC St - 11:28 1st H - 20-19, SU (+1)
• 2/6 @ Clemson - 14:20 1st H - 15-5, Clemson (-10)
• 2/9 @ NC St - 12:11 1st H - 16-14, NC St (-2)
• 2/13 BC - 10:49 1st H - 25-15, SU (+10)
• 2/20 ND - 13:41 1st H - 17-9, ND (-8)
• 2/22 @ Duke - 13:25 1st H - 18-10, Duke (-8)
• 2/27 @ Ga Tech - 14:41 1st H - 17-8, Ga Tech (-9)
• 3/1 UNC - 14:53 1st H - 11-4, UNC (-7)
• 3/3 Clemson - 15:46 1st H - 3-2, SU (+1)
• 3/10 NC St (ACC Tourney) - 9:03 1st H - 28-23, SU (+5)
• 3/11 UVa (ACC Tourney) - 8:13 1st H - 30-22, SU (+8)
• 3/19 SD St (NCAA) - 11:08 1st H - 15-14, SD St (-1)
• 3/21 WVa (NCAA) - 8:47 1st H - 26-12, SU (+14)

So, in the 20 games that SU has played in calendar year 2021, we have held the lead 9 times when Kadary first entered the game, we've trailed 10 times, and we've been tied once. The average score over the course of those 20 games is a deficit of -0.25 points (the net total is -5 over the entire 20 game stretch).

and that was my point to the constant complaints by a few people that we always wait until we’ve dug a hole to bring in K and never have a lead when we bring him in.

 

[Cusesky8214]

you actually think I was asking you specifically? It was a factitious question.

Hard to tell nowadays around here.

 

[djcon57]

Here is an update to my early Feb post about time and score when Kadary first checked into the game this season:

• 1/6 Pitt - 12:48 1st H - 17-6, SU (+11)
• 1/9 Gtown - 11:10 1st H - 16-16 tie (0)
• 1/12 @ UNC - 11:43 1st H - 16-15, UNC (-1)
• 1/16 @ Pitt - 10:30 1st H - 15-9, SU (+6)
• 1/19 Miami - 13:10 1st H - 11-2, Miami (-9)
• 1/23 VaTech - 11:00 1st H - 15-13, SU (+2)
• 1/25 @ UVa - 12:42 1st H - 14-6, UVa (-8)
• 1/31 NC St - 11:28 1st H - 20-19, SU (+1)
• 2/6 @ Clemson - 14:20 1st H - 15-5, Clemson (-10)
• 2/9 @ NC St - 12:11 1st H - 16-14, NC St (-2)
• 2/13 BC - 10:49 1st H - 25-15, SU (+10)
• 2/20 ND - 13:41 1st H - 17-9, ND (-8)
• 2/22 @ Duke - 13:25 1st H - 18-10, Duke (-8)
• 2/27 @ Ga Tech - 14:41 1st H - 17-8, Ga Tech (-9)
• 3/1 UNC - 14:53 1st H - 11-4, UNC (-7)
• 3/3 Clemson - 15:46 1st H - 3-2, SU (+1)
• 3/10 NC St (ACC Tourney) - 9:03 1st H - 28-23, SU (+5)
• 3/11 UVa (ACC Tourney) - 8:13 1st H - 30-22, SU (+8)
• 3/19 SD St (NCAA) - 11:08 1st H - 15-14, SD St (-1)
• 3/21 WVa (NCAA) - 8:47 1st H - 26-12, SU (+14)

So, in the 20 games that SU has played in calendar year 2021, we have held the lead 9 times when Kadary first entered the game, we've trailed 10 times, and we've been tied once. The average score over the course of those 20 games is a deficit of -0.25 points (the net total is -5 over the entire 20 game stretch).

just to complete the data:
Bryant -3, but lineup had Sibide
Niagara and Rutgers - Richmond started, no Buddy
BC - +11
Buffalo: -4

10 leads, 12 from behind.

its absolutely fair, imo, to say both it wasn’t as big of a problem as suggested and believe the results would be better if Kadary started

 

[malpearl31]

its absolutely fair, imo, to say both it wasn’t as big of a problem as suggested and believe the results would be better if Kadary started

That's about as fair a take as one can have, given the facts.

But I think the narrative of "kadary never gets to enter the game with a lead" will continue. These things have a way of continuing to live on for some strange reason.