Is Fab Melo Close to Returning?

[BleedsOrange44]

http://www.nationoforange.com/content/fab-melo-close-returning-245/

 

[chakka3421]

My understanding is that Fab was taking a final where some kids were caught cheating and the final was invalided for all. An investigation was done to find out exactly who was involved. The students who did not cheat have to retake the exam - the professor needs to redo the exam first - need to set the date - needs to be regraded - needs clearance from NCAA on the procedure, etc, etc, etc. A real mess but needs to be done with no special treatment for a bball player unfortunately as remaining non-cheating students all need to retake at same time. And Fab needs to pass the exam too.

 

[SUintheVille]

I thought the invalid final theory was debunked?

Anyway, from the article: "Yes this team is good without him. But they're great with him."

Amen.

 

[sufandu]

I thought the invalid final theory was debunked?

Anyway, from the article: "Yes this team is good without him. But they're great with him."

Amen.

From what I've seen the last three games, we are not a top 10 team without him, but we're still undefeated with him. It's amazing how much our defense and rebounding has dropped off without him.

 

[jdubs30]

From what I've seen the last three games, we are not a top 10 team without him, but we're still undefeated with him. It's amazing how much our defense and rebounding has dropped off without him.

Going on other boards and seeing stuff like "if Cuse rebounds like that, we'll beat them". Guess they think Fab is done for the years...

 

[longislandcuse]

From what I've seen the last three games, we are not a top 10 team without him, but we're still undefeated with him. It's amazing how much our defense and rebounding has dropped off without him.

Look how ordinary OSU was without Sullinger, take Davis away from UK or Robinson away for Kansas. Losing a first round draft pick Center is not an easy thing to overcome...even for Syracuse, UK and the OSU's of the world.

 

[Hoov50]

I thought the invalid final theory was debunked?

I have no inside sources. However, I don't see how this can be the case. First of all finals are not required for courses. If there was cheating I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't just use the rest of the semester's grades to come up with a final grade. If this is the case it is even more ridiculous since there could be students who have now been waiting for a month to see if they can graduate. If I was waiting on this one class for my last credits to graduate in December and still hadn't had the situation resolved at the end of January I would be suing the crap out of the university.

 

[sufandu]

Look how ordinary OSU was without Sullinger, take Davis away from UK or Robinson away for Kansas. Losing a first round draft pick Center is not an easy thing to overcome...even for Syracuse, UK and the OSU's of the world.

No doubt. I completely agree with you. I'm just hoping he's back sooner rather than later.

 

[bballbeadle]

What about an incomplete paper that he had all semester break to do, and didn't? Does that seem a reasonable theory?

 

[All4SU]

What if he has an incomplete grade until he returns the Bunsen burner he borrowed?

 

[SWC75]

My understanding is that Fab was taking a final where some kids were caught cheating and the final was invalided for all. An investigation was done to find out exactly who was involved. The students who did not cheat have to retake the exam - the professor needs to redo the exam first - need to set the date - needs to be regraded - needs clearance from NCAA on the procedure, etc, etc, etc. A real mess but needs to be done with no special treatment for a bball player unfortunately as remaining non-cheating students all need to retake at same time. And Fab needs to pass the exam too.

ESPN was making cracks about how Fab wa s"academically challenged", (there was actually laughter in the background). If this story is true, it has nothing to do with Fab's academic abilities This would illustrate the folly of "protecting" players by not coming out and saying what the problem is. It leaves it open to whatever interpretation people want to put on it and many of those interpretations will not be in the player's favor.

 

[SWC75]

From what I've seen the last three games, we are not a top 10 team without him, but we're still undefeated with him. It's amazing how much our defense and rebounding has dropped off without him.

JB made the point that Fab was only grabbing 6 reboudns a game, (Baye and Rak had 5 yesterday), and that in our system the forwards and guards have to contribute on the boards. Scoop, Brandon and Dion had 1 rebound between them while W Va's starting guards had 10.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

What if he has an incomplete grade until he returns the Bunsen burner he borrowed?

Fab and his lab assistant:

 

[rrlbees]

ESPN was making cracks about how Fab wa s"academically challenged", (there was actually laughter in the background). If this story is true, it has nothing to do with Fab's academic abilities This would illustrate the folly of "protecting" players by not coming out and saying what the problem is. It leaves it open to whatever interpretation people want to put on it and many of those interpretations will not be in the player's favor.

It just amazes me how many people still fail to understand that it is illegal for a school to discuss certain things about any students academic situation. Some of you would be facing lawsuits by now.

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[KCJax03]

JB made the point that Fab was only grabbing 6 reboudns a game, (Baye and Rak had 5 yesterday), and that in our system the forwards and guards have to contribute on the boards. Scoop, Braqndon and Dion had 1 rebound between them while W Va's starting guards had 10.

But isn't JB's point of view here a bit to simplistic? It isn't so much just about the rebounds Fab gets, its how his presence underneath the basket affects the overall game. I would believe his big body taking up space and blocking out would be opposition rebounders leads to more rebounds for his teammates. Not to mention how much his presence as a shot blocker keeps some opponents from attempting to score in the paint to begin with. His affects on the overall dynamic of the game cannot be so simply measured by a singular average statistic.

 

[PoppyHart]

It just amazes me how many people still fail to understand that it is illegal for a school to discuss certain things about any students academic situation. Some of you would be facing lawsuits by now.

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I don't think its a crime for non-school officials to divulge that info, only school officials. Though I could be wrong about that.

Regardless, I agree with SWC that it has a counter-intuitive impact: The silence only heightens public perception that he's playing with less than a full deck.

My understanding is that a student is allowed to "waive" the federal privacy laws. Otherwise, why would we hear about all the success stories: Academic All-Americans, honor roll students, etc..., who often have their GPAs revealed. Thus, if I'm Fab, and I feel like I'm being unfairly judged, the incentive to to reveal the truth. Not saying anything just furthers the stigma.

 

[sufandu]

JB made the point that Fab was only grabbing 6 reboudns a game, (Baye and Rak had 5 yesterday), and that in our system the forwards and guards have to contribute on the boards. Scoop, Braqndon and Dion had 1 rebound between them while W Va's starting guards had 10.

That's a good point, but I put some of the blame for that on JB. Year in and out teams outrebound us that shouldn't. I don't know whether they don't work on blocking out in practice or if it's just a lack of consequences for not doing it. You see certain teams that are always good at it regardless of personnel (Michigan State, Pitt except for this year), and it's not always the most talented teams. I think Fab's presence made teams forget about some of the other guys a little too. I'm not saying he's the be all end all, just that I've seen a noticeable difference since he's been out. Fab's 6 rebounds a game also have come in 22 min/game. If you extrapolate that to 35min he's close to 10.

 

[All4SU]

But isn't JB's point of view here a bit to simplistic? It isn't so much just about the rebounds Fab gets, its how his presence underneath the basket affects the overall game. I would believe his big body taking up space and blocking out would be opposition rebounders leads to more rebounds for his teammates. Not to mention how much his presence as a shot blocker keeps some opponents from attempting to score in the paint to begin with. His affects on the overall dynamic of the game cannot be so simply measured by a singular average statistic.

I'm sure JB knows exactly what Fab's impact is on all aspects of SU's game -- offensively and defensively. At the same time, he has to take the opportunity to get those other guys to pick up the slack. Nothing to be gained by saying, "Gee we sure miss Fab."

 

[upperdeck]

i dont think what goes on at school is as private as we make it out to be. Hippa applies to health issues not grades.

 

[RoysRunts]

My understanding is that Fab was taking a final where some kids were caught cheating and the final was invalided for all. An investigation was done to find out exactly who was involved. The students who did not cheat have to retake the exam - the professor needs to redo the exam first - need to set the date - needs to be regraded - needs clearance from NCAA on the procedure, etc, etc, etc. A real mess but needs to be done with no special treatment for a bball player unfortunately as remaining non-cheating students all need to retake at same time. And Fab needs to pass the exam too.

If that is the case a lot of other Kids would be spilling their guts telling the media. Where are they?

 

[JrodCuse]

I can't remember 'cuse drawing a charge since Fab's been out. He drew them alllllll the time. Such a game changer when they have to worry about offensive fouls.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

i dont think what goes on at school is as private as we make it out to be. Hippa applies to health issues not grades.

Think FERPA, not HIPPA.

 

[upperdeck]

which is why we dont hear about medical issues but do about grades..

• School officials with legitimate educational interest;
• Other schools to which a student is transferring;
• Specified officials for audit or evaluation purposes;
• Appropriate parties in connection with financial aid to a student;
• Organizations conducting certain studies for or on behalf of the school;
• Accrediting organizations;
• To comply with a judicial order or lawfully issued subpoena;
• Appropriate officials in cases of health and safety emergencies; and
• State and local authorities, within a juvenile justice system, pursuant to specific State law.

Schools may disclose, without consent, "directory" information such as a student's name, address, telephone number, date and place of birth, honors and awards, and dates of attendance. However, schools must tell parents and eligible students about directory information and allow parents and eligible students a reasonable amount of time to request that the school not disclose directory information about them. Schools must notify parents and eligible students annually of their rights under FERPA. The actual means of notification (special letter, inclusion in a PTA bulletin, student handbook, or newspaper article) is left to the discretion of each school.

 

[KCJax03]

I'm sure JB knows exactly what Fab's impact is on all aspects of SU's game -- offensively and defensively. At the same time, he has to take the opportunity to get those other guys to pick up the slack. Nothing to be gained by saying, "Gee we sure miss Fab."

But he would address the players at practice, not the post game press conference. He can be a bit more forthcoming at the presser unless he feels we are all to dumb to understand or just doesn't feel lik addressing the question. I'm sure nobody bought Fab = 6 rebounds.

 

[SWC75]

It just amazes me how many people still fail to understand that it is illegal for a school to discuss certain things about any students academic situation. Some of you would be facing lawsuits by now.

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I understand that it is illegal. I'm pointing out that that that is not always to the player's benefit, since the speculation is often worse than the truth.