Issue with Bigs

AngryOtto

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I hear that the bigs are not ready to play. To me that is directly coaching. Both Edward’s and JBA have been in the program almost two years but they are not ready to play. They clearly are not being developed.
Personally I think that goes to not having one true big man coach on the staff. All four coaches were guards. Not saying you always have to play the position but clearly there is a disconnect at su.
Could also be the reason we cannot recruit higher rated big men.
 

NorSyr66

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To bounce around and read all the posts after the game is depressing. So far I have learned it is the "bigs", the "forwards" and the "guards" that were the problem today. Yes it has been a screwy year with the pandemic, the checkerboard schedule and no fans. But this team should have fixed one or two weaknesses by now this late in the season. The progress just does not seem to be there! We go into extended shooting slumps, we can not rebound, we can not finish at the basket, nearly every player is playing out of position and until today we at least were hitting our free throws but even that went out the door. Even suggestions of going out and getting a "big" transfer will end up being another excuse when we hear it takes two years to develop a 5 to play at the back pf the zone. I am perplexed, confused and depressed. Time to open some wine.
 

81South

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I hear that the bigs are not ready to play. To me that is directly coaching. Both Edward’s and JBA have been in the program almost two years but they are not ready to play. They clearly are not being developed.
Personally I think that goes to not having one true big man coach on the staff. All four coaches were guards. Not saying you always have to play the position but clearly there is a disconnect at su.
Could also be the reason we cannot recruit higher rated big men.
One could argue they aren’t ready because they had / have to far to go...which points to the fact that perhaps they should not have been recruited to play here. Jessie has the potential, in my opinion, to be effective here. He has to keep adding muscle, be more aggressive and work on securing the rebounds he gets his hands on. He is getting close.
 

IthacaMatt

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I hear that the bigs are not ready to play. To me that is directly coaching. Both Edward’s and JBA have been in the program almost two years but they are not ready to play. They clearly are not being developed.
Personally I think that goes to not having one true big man coach on the staff. All four coaches were guards. Not saying you always have to play the position but clearly there is a disconnect at su.
Could also be the reason we cannot recruit higher rated big men.


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CardiacCuse

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the problem with the landscape of NCAABB these days is that if a player is good ...they are gone quickly. and if you dont play them they are gne quickly too...the sweet spot for sustained success is pretty small and a hard target to hit.

More than any time in the past, as a rule, you have perpetual holes to fill. Some very successful programs have gone the 4 year route...develop players and keep them for 4 years...the mid majors, villanova.

For all of its burger boys over over the last decade, i think Cal only has 1 title at UK. Sure, 5star players are welcome...but also rare...and if you dont hav 5stars...theres a bit of a gamble that must be made...

SU has tried pretty hard with the 5star centers...theyve offered some very good ones just havent been able to secure any of them. so they are left looking elsewhere. at projects.

they are also probably thinking...since having been burned by a bunch of early departures that it is better to go with the projects you can keep around t build stabilty in the program from year to year and hopefully supplement with some prime time players that stay short term.

either way, this means player development is pretty huge. and it isnt really happening.

overall, development is just not really happening, especially at the 5 position lately for SU.

its complex. some of the players just dont have it. some of it what they are being askd to do...basically be the glue of the team and do the dirty work with the gaurds and forwards do the scoring etc.

I get why it has been a problem. and agree that it is the biggest one the team has had recently.

I think the remedy is more flexiblity.

a system that requires multiple seasons to learn is harder to pull off in this era.

the probable best solution is a transfer big with smarts to learn quickly...if not a 5 star legit starter as a freshman.
 

DonLightfoot

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Y’all remember when doley used to shoot 3’s?
Ya, if I recall I think he was my pick for highest three point shooting percentage in the Iggy challenge. Think he has only taken one or two and no idea if he has made any. If he made one of two that's a pretty good percentage :)
 

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