It may not be our worst loss in years

[Trueblue25]

But I’ve never been more sure that its over for JB. This is a young team but they don’t only look lost, they look like they have zero guidance/coaching.

Fran spent the last 10 mins slamming the state of our program.

Its just bad. Can’t support this staff even slightly anymore. Its a disservice to the student athletes.

 

[grant]

When Hopkins left, we still should have had a transition plan in place. Not fair to the fans and players to have this be the state of our program.

The man is one of the best to do it, but it’s time. It’s been time.

 

[Orangezoo]

But I’ve never been more sure that its over for JB. This is a young team but they don’t only look lost, they look like they have zero guidance/coaching.

Fran spent the last 10 mins slamming the state of our program.

Its just bad. Can’t support this staff even slightly anymore. Its a disservice to the student athletes.

I'm glad he did. It needs to be said.

 

[Trueblue25]

I'm glad he did. It needs to be said.

Everything he said was true.

Syracuse is like a dying star, just collapsing into itself.

We can bring in talent. We just dont have the effort

 

[Cusefan0307]

But I’ve never been more sure that its over for JB. This is a young team but they don’t only look lost, they look like they have zero guidance/coaching.

Fran spent the last 10 mins slamming the state of our program.

Its just bad. Can’t support this staff even slightly anymore. Its a disservice to the student athletes.

Good. Fran is as big of an expert on basketball as anyone around the world.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

When Hopkins left, we still should have had a transition plan in place. Not fair to the fans and players to have this be the state of our program.

The man is one of the best to do it, but it’s time. It’s been time.

We’ve been held hostage to JB’s ego. Original plan to hand it over to Hop was the right plan. Hop was the real coach behind SU for the 15 years before his departure. Without Hop, JB has been completely exposed.

 

[Orangezoo]

We’ve been held hostage to JB’s ego. Original plan to hand it over to Hop was the right plan. Hop was the real coach behind SU for the 15 years before his departure. Without Hop, JB has been completely exposed.

You saw it the very first year after he was gone.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Fran was spot on all night. Not only knows his stuff, but knows Syracuse well. Said it several times in the game thread-- he was spot on.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

You saw it the very first year after he was gone.

And it’s gotten progressively worse each year post-Hop.

 

[orange7]

We’ve been held hostage to JB’s ego. Original plan to hand it over to Hop was the right plan. Hop was the real coach behind SU for the 15 years before his departure. Without Hop, JB has been completely exposed.

And don’t forget Weaver.

 

[Orangezoo]

And it’s gotten progressively worse each year post-Hop.

Yup

 

[shandeezy7]

It’s gonna take a long long time to dig out of this crater the program has been taken to. Not even sure it’s an attractive job to potential coaches these days given how far down we are now. Headed for our second straight sub-.500 season and next season likely won’t be much different regardless of who is at the helm.

Not the first time it’s happened and it won’t be the last, but it’s sad to watch another legendary college coach torpedo what he built.

 

[OrlandoCuse]

And don’t forget Weaver.

Weaver and Hop were a great combo, but Troy left in 2004. We at least played solid basketball for the better part of a decade after Weaver. There’s been nothing but garbage since Hop left.

 

[Cusefan0307]

It’s gonna take a long long time to dig out of this crater the program has been taken to. Not even sure it’s an attractive job to potential coaches these days given how far down we are now. Headed for our second straight sub-.500 season and next season likely won’t be much different regardless of who is at the helm.

Not the first time it’s happened and it won’t be the last, but it’s sad to watch another legendary college coach torpedo what he built.

It doesn’t have to be. Illinois lost 10 guys and is a top 20 team again. Meanwhile JB looks like a moron for slamming the Big 10.

 

[Jzsshuttles]

I'm glad he did. It needs to be said.

Hopefully someone runs it back for Boeheim. Would be interested to hear what he thinks of frans words

 

[Day2]

Some of you are giving Hop way too much credit. (Not saying he isn’t missed.)

 

[HoustonCuse]

Not the first time it’s happened and it won’t be the last, but it’s sad to watch another legendary college coach torpedo what he built.

Unfortunately, it was always going to be this way with JB. The top coaches have such competitiveness and ego, they just can’t imagine they aren’t the best answer anymore. And with JB, it almost seems like the louder the noise that he’s lost the fastball, the more he’s likely to dig in to prove he hasn’t.

 

[Scooch]

Unfortunately, it was always going to be this way with JB. The top coaches have such competitiveness and ego, they just can’t imagine they aren’t the best answer anymore. And with JB, it almost seems like the louder the noise that he’s lost the fastball, the more he’s likely to dig in to prove he hasn’t.

Makes me respect Jay Wright all the more.

 

[Cuse181]

It’s gonna take a long long time to dig out of this crater the program has been taken to. Not even sure it’s an attractive job to potential coaches these days given how far down we are now. Headed for our second straight sub-.500 season and next season likely won’t be much different regardless of who is at the helm.

Not the first time it’s happened and it won’t be the last, but it’s sad to watch another legendary college coach torpedo what he built.

The portal essentially guarantees you can turn a program around in a year. People gotta chill, this isn’t the 80s anymore where you have to build a program, now you buy it.

 

[grepal]

Fran was spot on all night. Not only knows his stuff, but knows Syracuse well. Said it several times in the game thread-- he was spot on.

It said alot while he was talking about building through the portal JB told him that if he was 50 he would go to the NBA

 

[Cusefan0307]

It said alot while he was talking about building through the portal JB told him that if he was 50 he would go to the NBA

Yeah. JB is not built for this era. He’s used to building teams over the course of seasons. You can’t do that anymore.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Some of you are giving Hop way too much credit. (Not saying he isn’t missed.)

Great assistant, meh as a head coach.

 

[shandeezy7]

The portal essentially guarantees you can turn a program around in a year. People gotta chill, this isn’t the 80s anymore where you have a build a program, now you buy it.

It sure as hell won’t be Boeheim who does that. He’s more or less said as much.

 

[dan7800]

The portal essentially guarantees you can turn a program around in a year. People gotta chill, this isn’t the 80s anymore where you have a build a program, now you buy it.

Then why has the team stunk for the last few years? Why not turn it around?

 

[Cuse181]

It sure as hell won’t be Boeheim who does that. He’s more or less said as much.

It doesn’t matter who or when, if the new coach wants a good team the year after JB leaves, they can get the alum together and buy one. As Illinois just showed you, transfer talent will always trump freshman talent