K Politicing Against Immediate 1 And Done Change

[JAXCUSE]

No surprise... His entire “recruiting” organization and strategy is now the Calipari model...

I get a kick out of pundits who try to turn this “issue” into a broader “every NCAA athlete” compensation argument. At the core, 1 and done is just a restriction designed to benefit the NBA. Really only affects the top elite HS aged players. And since implemented has hurt college basketball (as an “institution”) and restricted individual player choice/options. Not to mention increased recruiting corruption...

Get rid of some of the hypocrisy and corruption. Eliminate the rule. Plenty of options for kids to play for “legitimate” pay (NBA, overseas, G-League) if that is what they want to do.

Coach K: NCAA not ready for 1-and-done change

 

[pfister1]

If you don’t want to get a college education you shouldn’t be playing college athletics.

If you want a professional development system let universities sponsor professional teams where the players aren’t required to claim they are going to classes and progressing towards a degree.

 

[Madbiker]

Would rather see the system they use for baseball. You can go pro out of high school and enter the draft but if you choose college MLB will not make you eligible for the draft until after you complete 3 years. Nobody is complaining about that.

 

[pfister1]

Would rather see the system they use for baseball. You can go pro out of high school and enter the draft but if you choose college MLB will not make you eligible for the draft until after you complete 3 years. Nobody is complaining about that.

Why shouldn’t you be eligible to be drafted at any point that a team sees enough in you to pay for the right to control your rights?

 

[Madbiker]

Why shouldn’t you be eligible to be drafted at any point that a team sees enough in you to pay for the right to control your rights?

Maybe MLB sees value in the development of players and their skills during a 3 year college career. So they are willing to wait to draft a more finished product. Would benefit the NBA too since outside of a very select 3-6 players each draft they are getting raw talent not ready to play in the NBA.

 

[pfister1]

Maybe MLB sees value in the development of players and their skills during a 3 year college career. So they are willing to wait to draft a more finished product. Would benefit the NBA too since outside of a very select 3-6 players each draft they are getting raw talent not ready to play in the NBA.

That’s not truly the MLB/College system. Leaves out that a ton of baseball players play at the JUCO level and they are eligible to be drafted after each year and unlike basketball, kids playing JUCO baseball actually do get drafted.

If those JUCO kids go on to a four year school they can be drafted after each year at the four year school. A kid who spends 2 years playing JUCO and 2 years playing major college, could potentially be drafted 5 times.

The real difference between the basketball and baseball system is that the NCAA doesn't make baseball players give up their eligibility to go through the draft. It's great for the NBA, they know the drafted player has no leverage because he can't return to college. Why the NCAA does this to hoops players really doesn’t make a lot of sense, at least not to me.

 

[Col. Bleep]

If you don’t want to get a college education you shouldn’t be playing college athletics.

If you want a professional development system let universities sponsor professional teams where the players aren’t required to claim they are going to classes and progressing towards a degree.

Never thought I'd reach the point where that basically has become my position.
There's just too much money involved now to justify not paying the guys who bring it in.

College athletics always brought in people who wouldn't be there but/for the sport.
But it's reached ridiculous proportions.
Give recruits a choice: free education or a salary.

 

[Willy75]

K is right. The NBA is not going to look out for the college game, far from it, and the NCAA is largely dysfunctional at anything other than selling tv rights to the tournament.

 

[The_Slant_Su]

Never thought I'd reach the point where that basically has become my position.
There's just too much money involved now to justify not paying the guys who bring it in.

College athletics always brought in people who wouldn't be there but/for the sport.
But it's reached ridiculous proportions.
Give recruits a choice: free education or a salary.

The blue chip teams are paying the players, that's why K doesn't want anything changed.

The top programs, sneaker companies and tv networks control a whole lot of money, don't be so naive.

 

[GonzoInMD]

Baseball teams have farm systems they pay for to develop players. The NBA has been using colleges as their farm system, and they don't have to spend a dime. I suspect they like it that way.

 

[Madbiker]

The blue chip teams are paying the players, that's why K doesn't want anything changed.

The top programs, sneaker companies and tv networks control a whole lot of money, don't be so naive.

I don't believe the top schools are paying recruits directly. What they are doing is arranging for them to be paid by third parties after they leave the school to enter the draft. Either by contracts arranged by the school with shoe companies or cash payments from an agent or agent company. I believe Calipari initiated this at UK and Coach K has copied it at Duke. It is not illegal per the NCAA because there is no written contract and no payment is made during the time the kid is in school. The compensation is paid AFTER they leave school. When this kid receives the promised compensation, they become a "reference" for future recruits who confirm that they got what was promised so the recruit can trust the school will deliver on the promise. Very shrewd. The shoe companies are the big facilitators of a lot of these under the table promised deals.

 

[ar inj]

No. If you do not want to go to college then do not go to college. If you want to be paid, go to the G League; go overseas, or hire an agent who will get you a $1 million/year internship. If the NBA and its players' union want to draft 8th graders or anyone else, let them do it.

 

[cuse10]

No. If you do not want to go to college then do not go to college. If you want to be paid, go to the G League; go overseas, or hire an agent who will get you a $1 million/year internship. If the NBA and its players' union want to draft 8th graders or anyone else, let them do it.

This forum keeps repeating this narrative as if it's that easy. Only elite players would get a look overseas and even then they risk getting screwed over. College is the only choice for the 99%.

People are against basketball and football players getting a check because it's mostly black kids receiving compensation for their skill. Where's the outrage during the Olympics when swimmers get sums in the six figures and can still maintain their eligibility? That's right. There is none.

 

[Willy75]

Restrictions/limits on NBA draft eligibility (like one and done) are for the most part only legal to the extent incorporated in the league’s collective bargaining agreement. So those two (league and union) have much, much more input than the NCAA, the Power 5 or anybody else at the college level. The flip side is the NCAA’s eligibility rules, i.e. should players who don’t pan out in the NBA or even a foreign league nonetheless be allowed to play college ball.

 

[Cheriehoop]

This forum keeps repeating this narrative as if it's that easy. Only elite players would get a look overseas and even then they risk getting screwed over. College is the only choice for the 99%.

To be candid is that college’s fault or the NBA’s, NFL’s, capitalists etc that there is no market nor investors who have provided a money making platform for talented basketball, football players who don’t want to go to college? Is it the responsibility of colleges to provide a lucrative alternative for these players to make college a less favorable option? Colleges have academic standards before an athlete can compete to supposedly limit it to athletes wanting and ‘prepared’ to attend college.

Below is an article regarding Olympic collegiate swimmers and allowed NCAA payments.
What Happens to Amateur American Swimmers' Prize Money?

 

[tbonezone]

if your only reason for attending college is getting drafted to play ball after one year then yes perhaps an institution of higher learning is not the place for you. they develop minds also.

 

[SBU72]

K is right. The NBA is not going to look out for the college game, far from it, and the NCAA is largely dysfunctional at anything other than selling tv rights to the tournament.

And they did such a great job there we get TNT/TBS/TRU/CBS combo on the first week.

 

[Ringostar57]

Full employment for everyone who wants to play basketball is a myth pipedream....Not good enough go join Willie and the po boys down on the corner or should of stayed and got a degree.