Orangeyes
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Kentucky, Syracuse, Ohio State, Duke in line for NCAA tournament top seeds
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In which case I will begin believing in conspiracy theories.
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I know we will probably be labeled Duke haters. But, it just doesn't seem fair. Duke a 1 seed?
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Have no idea what missouri's computer #s are, and i know thats important, but just going by their record and the "eye" test, i think mizzou is more worthy than duke.
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The SU team I watched in the last three games will NOT be in the Final Four.
With Fab Melo, can they return to their early December form?
Maybe.
But teams that have problems shooting and rebounding are ripe for early departure from the Tournamentt.
With Fab Melo, can they return to their early December form?
Maybe.
But teams that have problems shooting and rebounding are ripe for early departure from the Tournamentt.
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It's certainly debateable.
Duke is #2 in the RPI and #1 in the SOS. I know those stats were popular here when we were #1 in the SOS, to prove that we hadn't played an easy schedule or whatever. (Our SOS, btw, is down to 8, which is a little surprising to me).
Mizzou is actually 12 in the RPI and 106th in SOS. I certainly don't buy that, and the win @ Baylor is better than anything Duke has done this year. And Duke is 13th in the Pomeroy, which i like to rely on as well.
Duke to me is a team that has a great resume, but probably isn't as good as the resume says.
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From the mouth of @ESPNLunardi "Syracuse right now is the #1 overall seed... and it's not close"
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I would say winning in maui is pretty impressive
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On this general topic (SU's seeding), I need to vent. This year's successful run has been fun to watch. If we keep winning we have the potential to get a #1 seed. The team has unusual depth and veteren/talented guards. We have a lethal transition game. We're big inside (with Fab), and when we're motivated we play great defense.
Then came the last 3 games. Melo's absence at ND made our half court look average, at best. Lack of inside scoring, bulk and experience remain huge problems (Rak has not arrived and Keita has legs like twigs and hands like granite). Our 3pt shooting is down to 34%. Although we looked good at Cinci, we came home after 5 days rest and laid an egg (4-20 3pt). We allowed WVU to shoot nearly 41% from the field and let them ride us like circus ponies on the boards -- a team that is no where near the size of UNC or Kentucky.
Some of our problems will improve when Melo returns. We should also allow for the inevitable letdown at the midpoint of a long season. All that said, right now, IMHO we're not playing well enough to beat any of the top 8 teams in the country, including Duke.
This week in practice, I'm sure the staff will work like crazy on half court sets and boxouts. They'll need to, because this weekend (regardless of its past record), St. John's is going to come out ON FIRE. They spanked the same WVU team that we struggled against in the Dome. They overcame a 20 point deficit at Cameron Indoor, closing the final margain to 7, and are unlikely to be intimidated against another top 10 team. Not to mention that Mo Harkless is just plain unstoppable.
Therefore, if we walze into the Garden like we're entitled to win and start missing open shots and allowing transition baskets, we'll not only loose the game but also our top seed. Confidence will then take a plunge; and it'll be difficult to recover in time for the toughest stretch of the season. More losses could follow at the Dumb-Dumb center and in Storrs.
Bottom line: we need Fab back. And we need to play up to our ranking before we start criticizing other team's tourney chances.
Then came the last 3 games. Melo's absence at ND made our half court look average, at best. Lack of inside scoring, bulk and experience remain huge problems (Rak has not arrived and Keita has legs like twigs and hands like granite). Our 3pt shooting is down to 34%. Although we looked good at Cinci, we came home after 5 days rest and laid an egg (4-20 3pt). We allowed WVU to shoot nearly 41% from the field and let them ride us like circus ponies on the boards -- a team that is no where near the size of UNC or Kentucky.
Some of our problems will improve when Melo returns. We should also allow for the inevitable letdown at the midpoint of a long season. All that said, right now, IMHO we're not playing well enough to beat any of the top 8 teams in the country, including Duke.
This week in practice, I'm sure the staff will work like crazy on half court sets and boxouts. They'll need to, because this weekend (regardless of its past record), St. John's is going to come out ON FIRE. They spanked the same WVU team that we struggled against in the Dome. They overcame a 20 point deficit at Cameron Indoor, closing the final margain to 7, and are unlikely to be intimidated against another top 10 team. Not to mention that Mo Harkless is just plain unstoppable.
Therefore, if we walze into the Garden like we're entitled to win and start missing open shots and allowing transition baskets, we'll not only loose the game but also our top seed. Confidence will then take a plunge; and it'll be difficult to recover in time for the toughest stretch of the season. More losses could follow at the Dumb-Dumb center and in Storrs.
Bottom line: we need Fab back. And we need to play up to our ranking before we start criticizing other team's tourney chances.
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Here's a case by case outline for who should get that 4th #1 seed if the season ended on Sunday.
Kentucky & SU are locks and OSU would seem to be the third
The other candidates
Baylor
Duke
Missouri
Kansas
UNC
MSU
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...field-of-68-who-deserves-the-fourth-no-1-seed
Kentucky & SU are locks and OSU would seem to be the third
The other candidates
Baylor
Duke
Missouri
Kansas
UNC
MSU
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...field-of-68-who-deserves-the-fourth-no-1-seed
I hope Duke is a 1 seed that way they get shipped West and don't get the home calls out in the pacific time zone. Put Duke out West with Baylor as a 2 seed and I am fine. I would rather Duke be a 1 seed out West rather than a 2 seed in the East with us.
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