Kline exposes Autry's flaws

[Millhouse]

Carlos is tiny and shot .318 from 3 playing on a team in the coastal athletic conference

Lampkin had 34 blocks at tcu and Colorado

Davis shot 246 from three at Delaware

Taylor was 11th on the Georgia State team in defensive rating

This is three minutes of work

I know these aren't first choices but given who you already have, what in the hell are they doing?

Kline or pretty much anyone in that role will have to be helpful but autry has still got to go, the guy making millions is going to still decide and he might be as bad at roster building as he is at lineups

How can you know how to defend other teams if you're this bad at knowing what you need?

 

[M2MPrinciples]

The explanation this administration is going with is that they weren't prepared for just how much money would be needed to attract the talent needed to compete. The staff supposedly had a good shopping list but were outgunned. Which, to be clear, is still on them.

It doesn't dismiss Autry's flaws when it comes to preparation, in-game coaching and the lack of energy on the court, but that's what they're going with.

 

[Millhouse]

The explanation this administration is going with is that they weren't prepared for just how much money would be needed to attract the talent needed to compete. The staff supposedly had a good shopping list but were outgunned. Which, to be clear, is still on them.

It doesn't dismiss Autry's flaws when it comes to preparation, in-game coaching and the lack of energy on the court, but that's what they're going with.

I wonder if they gave Lampkin all that money because they had to give*someone* money to look like they're trying

 

[dasher]

I wonder if they gave Lampkin all that money because they had to give*someone* money to look like they're trying

No. They gave him that mush money because they saw that they were really hurt by not having a low post threat.

 

[oldpinepoint]

No. They gave him that mush money because they saw that they were really hurt by not having a low post threat.

I do think there was some panic here with all the money considering the lost out on some
Of their other targets. But I do think they were/are trying, they just aren’t very good at it.

 

[Sbucketball]

I wonder if they gave Lampkin all that money because they had to give*someone* money to look like they're trying

I do think there was some panic here with all the money considering the lost out on some
Of their other targets. But I do think they were/are trying, they just aren’t very good at it.

They initially got Lampkin at a reasonable price of 500k (not saying I would have picked him up as I would have focused on pg first), but then after committing and having the team built around him, Lampkin said he was leaving unless given more and that's how he ended up with a price tag that wasn't worth it. I don't think it was because money was burning a hole in Red's pocket.

 

[Millhouse]

No. They gave him that mush money because they saw that they were really hurt by not having a low post threat.

That doesn't explain giving money to lampkin

 

[Millhouse]

Better off saving the money and take your bath this year. Especially when they signed you for way too many years. There is no salary floor here. Delusional to think Lampkin makes a difference

 

[oldpinepoint]

Better off saving the money and take your bath this year. Especially when they signed you for way too many years. There is no salary floor here. Delusional to think Lampkin makes a difference

Always easier to play Monday Morning QB. I really think the staff thought Lampkin was the missing piece. Bigger concern to me was and is the constant misses in this portal class and the roster construction. It just shows how unprepared they were. Other would know but does this staff work hard? Are they hardest workers in the room or are they complacent and lazy. I don’t know but I don’t get that sense of urgency.

 

[Millhouse]

Always easier to play Monday Morning QB. I really think the staff thought Lampkin was the missing piece. Bigger concern to me was and is the constant misses in this portal class and the roster construction. It just shows how unprepared they were. Other would know but does this staff work hard? Are they hardest workers in the room or are they complacent and lazy. I don’t know but I don’t get that sense of urgency.

No need to go to a webpage, this is mean, but take one look at the guy, come on

 

[oldpinepoint]

No need to go to a webpage, this is mean, but take one look at the guy, come on

lol, I don’t disagree with you. I do think they were unprepared which led to a bit of panic and overpaying because they lost out on other targets. They needed the optics that they were doing something. It’s almost looks like they took a spreadsheet of remaining portal players and sorted it by PPG. Honestly I don’t know what they were thinking but it’s blown up horribly. So while I think they should blow this up now he will get another year and hopefully Kline will be better at identifying talent. Then the question becomes does Red have a plan and know what he wants. The offseason will be interesting for sure.

 

[RF2044]

Carlos is tiny and shot .318 from 3 playing on a team in the coastal athletic conference

Lampkin had 34 blocks at tcu and Colorado

Davis shot 246 from three at Delaware

Taylor was 11th on the Georgia State team in defensive rating

This is three minutes of work

I know these aren't first choices but given who you already have, what in the hell are they doing?

Kline or pretty much anyone in that role will have to be helpful but autry has still got to go, the guy making millions is going to still decide and he might be as bad at roster building as he is at lineups

How can you know how to defend other teams if you're this bad at knowing what you need?

Agreed.

The notion that some are suggesting that we need a bigger war chest just to offset the obvious and glaring coaching limitations is telling.

NIL might be AN issue, but it isn't THE issue.

Improve our $$$, and get a coaching staff that knows what the heck they are doing, and things would improve immensely.

 

[miamicuse]

Everyone keep saying Red is good at recruiting, but it seems Red kept getting players that are one dimensional and injury prone. Is this because there is an issue with talent evaluation or he "settled" for them because of lack of NIL. We know player development has been lacking since we are not playing any better on Feb 24 compared to Nov 5. This cannot be blamed on the kids being totally uncoachable and unmotivated.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Agreed.

The notion that some are suggesting that we need a bigger war chest just to offset the obvious and glaring coaching limitations is telling.

NIL might be AN issue, but it isn't THE issue.

Improve our $$$, and get a coaching staff that knows what the heck they are doing, and things would improve immensely.

We also won't likely be able to afford depth but that is fine. We don't need to be 12 deep. Spend big on 2-3 guys and above average on your 3-4 guys. Then you JB them.

 

[RF2044]

We also won't likely be able to afford depth but that is fine. We don't need to be 12 deep. Spend big on 2-3 guys and above average on your 3-4 guys. Then you JB them.

That's right.

We need to first have a system, then recruit to the system so that a foundation / nucleus of guys who are good players are in place, and then SUPPLEMENT that nucleus with intelligent portal additions.

Problem is, we DON'T have a system or a foundation of guys who can play.

Which is why hoping that just throwing extra $$$ at the problem is going to make it go away is a futile fantasy.

 

[Cusefan0307]

A lot of people more or less thought Lampkin was going to be a bust in May and were shutdown for being negative. We needed a rim protector with our inability to stop any dribble penetration.

 

[littlereg]

No. They gave him that mush money because they saw that they were really hurt by not having a low post threat.

Dang if only they saw we were reslly hurting at every other position besides wing, including staff and administration

 

[orangecuse]

They initially got Lampkin at a reasonable price of 500k (not saying I would have picked him up as I would have focused on pg first), but then after committing and having the team built around him, Lampkin said he was leaving unless given more and that's how he ended up with a price tag that wasn't worth it. I don't think it was because money was burning a hole in Red's pocket.

This statement truly speaks for itself relative to the current state of major D1 hoops nowadays. For a minute, just think of how ludicrous it is paying someone of this minimal talent caliber that amount of coin. Honestly, it's chit like this that continues to make me lose interest in paying hardly any attention to the game anymore.

I mean, these extremely fortunate young adults have to wake up everyday waiting for someone to pinch them from this incredulous dream they are living nowadays. It's truly unreal.

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

If you put Richmond and Cisse on this team they are what? 15-11? The problem isn’t only talent. Look at Virginia Tech, they lost a ton of players because of NIL. They are close to 500 on the league and getting better every month. Young is an outstanding coach and Mike Jones is damn good too. I don't see a path to success with Autry as the head coach.

 

[Millhouse]

A lot of people more or less thought Lampkin was going to be a bust in May and were shutdown for being negative. We needed a rim protector with our inability to stop any dribble penetration.

If we can't have that, someone that can touch the rim would be good

 

[Chip]

Without Lampkin we don't win 10 ****ing games. Granted, we've only won 11, but we probably only win 9.

We probably overpaid, but he's a bit down the list to me. He can rebound, pass, score down low. On D, he's just another misfit on our island of toys.

Ignoring any game day coaching deficiencies for a moment (because he's coming back), Carlos is the straw that's not stirring the drink.

Davis and Taylor were supposed to be bench guys. But Carlos' struggles, Bell's inability to do anything other than stand in one spot, hope he's open and hit a 3 (and inability to even do that for a stretch) and JJ/Freeman injuries forced these guys into bigger roles.

I'd spend a huge portion of what's left on a point guard who, like you, goes both ways. Guessing options will be out there since everyone enters the portal. Red better get that one right, or year 3 is the final year.

 

[Millhouse]

Without Lampkin we don't win 10 ****ing games. Granted, we've only won 11, but we probably only win 9.

We probably overpaid, but he's a bit down the list to me. He can rebound, pass, score down low. On D, he's just another misfit on our island of toys.

Ignoring any game day coaching deficiencies for a moment (because he's coming back), Carlos is the straw that's not stirring the drink.

Davis and Taylor were supposed to be bench guys. But Carlos' struggles, Bell's inability to do anything other than stand in one spot, hope he's open and hit a 3 (and inability to even do that for a stretch) and JJ/Freeman injuries forced these guys into bigger roles.

I'd spend a huge portion of what's left on a point guard who, like you, goes both ways. Guessing options will be out there since everyone enters the portal. Red better get that one right, or year 3 is the final year.

I would still rather spend that money on a
team that doesn't stink

This new world of renting transient young men for a short period of time is new for most of us, you however are a veteran trailblazer

 

[M2MPrinciples]

Also, if it hasn't been noted in the other 50K Autry/NIL threads, we're going to have to a pay a bad team tax to make up for how ill-prepared this staff is to win and get scouts' attention for their players, until they prove otherwise.

 

[Bulldog04]

Another reason for Bells backwards step this year is bc no one can beat their man off the dribble like Judah could. That freed up a lot of fastbreak 3s and a lot of help D situations to free up Bell. He was wide open a lot last year. This year not so much

 

[Sbucketball]

We also won't likely be able to afford depth but that is fine. We don't need to be 12 deep. Spend big on 2-3 guys and above average on your 3-4 guys. Then you JB them.

Good point. Probably not the best time to try to play a deep rotation.