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Sure, Liberty’s for real. About as real as the ACC is in currently being a pretty pathetic football conference.
 
Sure, Liberty’s for real. About as real as the ACC currently being a pretty pathetic football conference.
Yes, they are going to be ranked inside the top 20 tomorrow. And they belong there.

They play NC State in 2 weeks. They have a good chance to win that one too and if they do, they are going to finish the season undefeated and in the top 10.
 
Yes, they are going to be ranked inside the top 20 tomorrow. And they belong there.

They play NC State in 2 weeks. They have a good chance to win that one too and if they do, they are going to finish the season undefeated and in the top 10.

Well good for them. They can sing hallelujah afterwards that the ACC door mat team in SU, along with mediocre unranked teams in VPI & NCST, anointed them to such Devine standing.
 
Well good for them. They can sing hallelujah afterwards that the ACC door mat team in SU, along with mediocre unranked teams in VPI & NCST, anointed them to such Devine standing.
They have done a great job scheduling and maybe gotten lucky some too, with their opponents suffering key injuries. But that staff has done a great job getting talent in place and coaching up some players that were not highly recruited.

They are a great example of what is possible with good coaching, a favorable schedule and a few really nice players. We are not far away from being where they are now. It could happen next year for us.
 
They have done a great job scheduling and maybe gotten lucky some too, with their opponents suffering key injuries. But that staff has done a great job getting talent in place and coaching up some players that were not highly recruited.

They are a great example of what is possible with good coaching, a favorable schedule and a few really nice players. We are not far away from being where they are now. It could happen next year for us.
Do you think we have the same level of coaching that they do?
 
Why is so tough to just give credit where credit is due orangecuse ? Liberty is undefeated. They have accomplished success in such a short time. I hope dino asks Freeze how he’s making it happen as coaches love to help each other. Id rather have them go undefeated so it looks like the SU loss isn’t nearly as bad as we thought it was
 
Liberty has really good facilities, a formerly successful SEC head coach, and a former Auburn QB. Plus, they have been utilizing JUCOs and the transfer portal to fill roster holes. That’s how they are winning.

SMU has is employing a similar strategy and they are winning. Their QB is a transfer from Texas.

In college football, the top teams stockpile top QBs, but many will transfer. I think Babers needs to start recruiting transfer QBs and make better use of the transfer portal to fill holes.
 
This thread is misplaced and is the most common straw man on these boards. The point isn't that Liberty is good - it's that we stink. A year ago we shut them out - this year they hammered us. The difference in our trajectories is staggering.

There is nothing wrong with being a positive, glass-half-full kind of person. But you have to endure the cynics too. Especially this year ... they have a point. (I know there is also such a thing as "beating a dead horse," but this is message board. It's kinda what happens here)
 
This thread is misplaced and is the most common straw man on these boards. The point isn't that Liberty is good - it's that we stink. A year ago we shut them out - this year they hammered us. The difference in our trajectories is staggering.

There is nothing wrong with being a positive, glass-half-full kind of person. But you have to endure the cynics too. Especially this year ... they have a point. (I know there is also such a thing as "beating a dead horse," but this is message board. It's kinda what happens here)

Who has been making the case that we’re good?
 
This thread is misplaced and is the most common straw man on these boards. The point isn't that Liberty is good - it's that we stink. A year ago we shut them out - this year they hammered us. The difference in our trajectories is staggering.

There is nothing wrong with being a positive, glass-half-full kind of person. But you have to endure the cynics too. Especially this year ... they have a point. (I know there is also such a thing as "beating a dead horse," but this is message board. It's kinda what happens here)

The difference in last year and this year is their QB. He’s the type of dual threat talent we need.
 
The difference in last year and this year is their QB. He’s the type of dual threat talent we need.
Exactly. Syracuse fans should know better than most fans what a big difference a good dual threat QB can have on a program. They can cover up a lot of flaws.
 
Exactly. Syracuse fans should know better than most fans what a big difference a good dual threat QB can have on a program. They can cover up a lot of flaws.
Depends on the age of the fan. The younger ones may think Dungey was the exception. The last good one before him graduated 22 years ago.
 
The difference in last year and this year is their QB. He’s the type of dual threat talent we need.
Exactly. Syracuse fans should know better than most fans what a big difference a good dual threat QB can have on a program. They can cover up a lot of flaws.

Indeed. Our scoring in 2018 was basically a combination of Dungey doing Dungey things, and Szymt having an unbelievable year. Covered up a lot of inefficiencies. But this is a digression.
 
The argument people were making after we lost to them was “we should never lose to Liberty”

It’s a silly argument that assumes they are fresh out of FCS and we’re still coached by P in the 90’s.

Had we been full strength, it might have gone differently. But they are good.
 
You would think a professional football coach would be able to reach that conclusion with a cursory analysis and not have to figure it out on the job. Freeze knew what he needed and went out and go what was needed and bingo, paydirt.
 
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Liberty is pretty good - and to show the difference b/t winning and losing and what a little bit of luck is, look at the final 1:40 of that game.

Anyone who goes into Blackburg and wins, that's a heck of a trophy.
 

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