Looks Like SU Took the Action To Declare Him Ineligible

[OrangeinBoston]

OK, good. Take a stand on principle.

 

[CuseTroop]

Why wait till today tho?

 

[SWC75]

It means that we don't have to get mad at the NCAA, who was not involved in this or at SU who is applying standards, not ignoring them. This is all on Melo.

 

[themole]

Is it at all clear if it's academics or something else?

 

[Orangello]

Isn't the academic drop deadline next week ?

 

[zeekay]

And by taking a stand you mean having some stupid internal principle that I GUARANTEE none of the other top 25 schools follow.

I'm gonna laugh when it's revealed that the school board thought the fencing instructor was correct in screwing the school out of millions of dollars based on "academic" principle. Or other such non-sense, if it actually was due to school action.

Fab was dumb for making the mistakes he did here, but I'm absolutely sure that if he went to UK or Florida or whatever, no one would ever hear that he was nothing but perfect academically there.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Fab was dumb for making the mistakes he did here, but I'm absolutely sure that if he went to UK or Florida or whatever, no one would ever hear that he was nothing but perfect academically there.

One would think, but maybe in the big picture we are not any better than them. We just see everything orange.

 

[HarrisonJBounel]

And by taking a stand you mean having some stupid internal principle that I GUARANTEE none of the other top 25 schools follow.

I'm gonna laugh when it's revealed that the school board thought the fencing instructor was correct in screwing the school out of millions of dollars based on "academic" principle. Or other such non-sense, if it actually was due to school action.

Fab was dumb for making the mistakes he did here, but I'm absolutely sure that if he went to UK or Florida or whatever, no one would ever hear that he was nothing but perfect academically there.

SU is political correctness run amok. There is truth in what you say.

 

[moqui]

And by taking a stand you mean having some stupid internal principle that I GUARANTEE none of the other top 25 schools follow.

I am pretty sure they all follow the same principle: when the national press and the NCAA investigators are busy turning over every rock, you better be as straight and strict as you possibly can be.

that is not "political correctness," it is survival.

don't be so upset at the prospect of an early tournament exit that you lose site of the big picture.

 

[Fjoinkay]

Just yesterday UNC was banned from a bowl game next year and lost 15 scholarships in football over 3 years and one of the infractions was academic fraud. As the dust begins to settle on the news of Fab's ouster it looks like SU took a stand on principle. More drama disappointment for SU fans and students.

 

[triplethrea]

I think they made a deal with the NCAA. "We'll make the whole drug thing go away if you do something to punish yourselves." NCAA supports this because they don't want Syracuse to win after the bad press all year. NCAA says fine take care of Fab and we won't give you any sanctions in the future. NCAA then tells Syracuse to announce it themselves to save face and not cause any controversy.

It's a handshake agreement. We screwed up. This is what the NCAA put on the table to save ourselves. Ethics my ass. Pure PR.

 

[iommi]

I am pretty sure they all follow the same principle: when the national press and the NCAA investigators are busy turning over every rock, you better be as straight and strict as you possibly can be.

that is not "political correctness," it is survival.

don't be so upset at the prospect of an early tournament exit that you lose site of the big picture.

I don't get it, Moqui. Isn't the guy in charge the one responsible for whether his program is straight and strict? If he's not doing that well, then what do you suggest the school does about that?

 

[Cusefan95]

I don't get it, Moqui. Isn't the guy in charge the one responsible for whether his program is straight and strict? If he's not doing that well, then what do you suggest the school does about that?

Letter vs Spirit question - Syracuse is going to follow the letter of the law right now.

It really sounds like JB getting fired would give you great joy - that's really a sick demented kind of fandom.

 

[dasher]

I think they made a deal with the NCAA. "We'll make the whole drug thing go away if you do something to punish yourselves." NCAA supports this because they don't want Syracuse to win after the bad press all year. NCAA says fine take care of Fab and we won't give you any sanctions in the future. NCAA then tells Syracuse to announce it themselves to save face and not cause any controversy.

It's a handshake agreement. We screwed up. This is what the NCAA put on the table to save ourselves. Ethics my ass. Pure PR.

what proof do you have for any of that?

 

[OrangeinBoston]

And by taking a stand you mean having some stupid internal principle that I GUARANTEE none of the other top 25 schools follow.

I'm gonna laugh when it's revealed that the school board thought the fencing instructor was correct in screwing the school out of millions of dollars based on "academic" principle. Or other such non-sense, if it actually was due to school action.

Fab was dumb for making the mistakes he did here, but I'm absolutely sure that if he went to UK or Florida or whatever, no one would ever hear that he was nothing but perfect academically there.

Go foot for Kentucky or Florida. Bozo...

 

[BostonOrange]

OK, good. Take a stand on principle.

bahahahahahaha!!! that is a good one.

 

[netman99]

I am pretty sure they all follow the same principle: .

Not saying SU did the wrong thing but "same principal" is far from reality. Have you been following what is going on with grades fraud at North Carolina?

 

[triplethrea]

what proof do you have for any of that?

Just what I think makes sense.

 

[RF2044]

I think they made a deal with the NCAA. "We'll make the whole drug thing go away if you do something to punish yourselves." NCAA supports this because they don't want Syracuse to win after the bad press all year. NCAA says fine take care of Fab and we won't give you any sanctions in the future. NCAA then tells Syracuse to announce it themselves to save face and not cause any controversy.

It's a handshake agreement. We screwed up. This is what the NCAA put on the table to save ourselves. Ethics my ass. Pure PR.

I don't.

NFW, with a #1 seed / final four / national championship on the line would anyone agree to that type of deal.

 

[Marsh01]

I think they made a deal with the NCAA. "We'll make the whole drug thing go away if you do something to punish yourselves." NCAA supports this because they don't want Syracuse to win after the bad press all year. NCAA says fine take care of Fab and we won't give you any sanctions in the future. NCAA then tells Syracuse to announce it themselves to save face and not cause any controversy.

It's a handshake agreement. We screwed up. This is what the NCAA put on the table to save ourselves. Ethics my ass. Pure PR.

hell no

 

[OttoMets]

SU is political correctness run amok. There is truth in what you say.

An academic institution suspending a cheater constitutes political correctness? That's rich.

 

[SWC75]

An academic institution suspending a cheater constitutes political correctness? That's rich.

If you know he's a 'cheater', please tell us the juicy details.

 

[reedny]

And by taking a stand you mean having some stupid internal principle that I GUARANTEE none of the other top 25 schools follow.

I'm gonna laugh when it's revealed that the school board thought the fencing instructor was correct in screwing the school out of millions of dollars based on "academic" principle. Or other such non-sense, if it actually was due to school action.

Fab was dumb for making the mistakes he did here, but I'm absolutely sure that if he went to UK or Florida or whatever, no one would ever hear that he was nothing but perfect academically there.

And that's the difference between us and Ky.

 

[RoysRunts]

I don't get it, Moqui. Isn't the guy in charge the one responsible for whether his program is straight and strict? If he's not doing that well, then what do you suggest the school does about that?

The Guy in Charge Cantor/Gross/NCAA Compliance Guy?

 

[tbonezone]

some help please . i can easily come up with a number of instances where big time college impact football players were ruled ineligible just before a bowl game but can anyone here name another major player on a high profile program (say 1-2 seed) being ruled ineligible just before the tourney started or are we in a unique situation?