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sutomcat

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This is not going to be very long (I hope) because I am pretty disgusted and I don’t want to write a really long post criticizing everyone associated with the program.

This year has been kind of nice. We got really deep into the season without a real dud. I was hoping that maybe, just maybe, we could get through the whole thing without that happening.

I am not sure which unit I am more disappointed in. We were pretty awful in all three.

Not a surprise that our special teams performance was bad again. James Williams is apparently out with the flu. I am not going to rip a walk on pressed into emergency service. Hey, at least he didn’t get a punt blocked. I will say that our best punt (by far) was wiped out by another illegal punt formation. I think you have to have 4 players minimum in the backfield and the refs said we didn’t. Pretty sure the same thing happened during the Rutgers game (twice!). This kind of sustained incompetence makes one question whether the coaching staff belongs here.

I was happy to see Andre finally make a FG. Was disappointed to see us give up a giant PR. A couple missed tackles. We got caught we a walk on trying to make a tackle. Not good. Courtney had a good return on a put worse than anything we have done. Nice.

On to the offense. Thought our game plan was awful. We went super vanilla. Don’t remember one new wrinkle, no trick plays, no anything to confuse the defense, I expected more with 2 weeks to prepare. To be fair, we had a huge issue at RT, where the new starter had a remarkably awful day. Just could not block anyone. An OL needs 5 players playing decently for the offense to be effective. We only had 4. It didn’t help that Servais seemed to make an awful shotgun snap on just about every important play. I think the guy he was assigned to block was beating him regularly, and he was really anxiously to get rid of the ball and make his block. This has been a problem when AS has had a good NT in front of him. I hope whoever is our center next year is better at this.

We had awful problems pass blocking but when we were able to get throws off, it seemed like Garrett made a bad read and threw into double and triple coverage a lot. We were fortunate none were picked off.

UL put a spy on Shrader from the start. He was a LB (22) who had size and speed and this effectively took Garrett out of the game as a running threat. Pretty sure that is why he kept handing the ball off to Sean instead of keeping it for himself. Thought Sean played okay. Didn’t have a ton of holes, was able to get outside a few times but I was impressed with the speed of the UL defense, who recovered quickly when Sean had some daylight.

Looked like we tried to get the ball to Luke. Looked like he dropped a couple passes and probably got himself further into the doghouse. Seems like he caught whatever Aaron Hackett had last year. He seems to be plagued by injuries and screws things up on the rare times he gets targeted. Too bad. A lot of talent is being wasted.

Alford made another stupid penalty on a boneheaded block. Might have been a bad call; still should not give a ref a chance to make a bad call there. Bergeron made a stupid penalty. Sherrod Johnson again had an illegal procedure penalty. Lots of thoughtless, unforced penalties.

So the offense was a disaster, but they at least got some first downs and moved the ball sometimes.

The defense started out the game looking like they did not want to be on the field and UL just embarrassed them. They clearly wanted it more, they showed far more effort and team work and the SU defense looked like they had never seen or prepared to play the Cards. Defenders were running past Cunningham instead of just trying to contain him. Coverages were repeatedly blown. We had a DE just fall down untouched in the red zone that was responsible for outside contain. You name it, our defense screwed it up. For some reason, we had no pass rush. Cunningham is not a great thrower but if you give him unlimited time, his receivers (who are very fast) will get open and he will carve you up like a turkey. We tried to bring out safeties up to take away the run and gamble with our CBs in man and got burned repeatedly. But worst of all, running play after running play after running play, the UL would get tied up for little or no gain, our defenders would use awful technique, help would not arrive and the UL RB would just power his way for another 5 or 10 yards. Sometimes more. Maddening. We were a good tackling team for a long time.

No question the early loss of Mikel played a role here. But it was happening before he was sent off. We are actually lucky Carter wasn’t also sent off (he had a questionable hit late in the first half on a TD play that could have been called targeting). What is the rule here? Do you have to hit the helmet of the player on offense or is the penalties for touring your helmet regardless of where you hit the opponent? Was hoping the announcers would discuss this but they were truly incompetent (the ACCN announcers are the bottom of the barrel, and this was the 2nd team ACCN announcing team). Brutal.

This was the one game I am not going to attend in person this season. The only good thing that happened today is that I did not travel 750 miles to watch that mess in person.

Hope we play better next week.
 

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I thought the ruling on the punt formation penalty was “too many men in the backfield “. We had the punter and 3 upmen blockers, but one of our line blockers followed his man into to backfield as he rushed the punt.

I could be totally wrong on this.
 

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At Louisville is just a guaranteed stinker.
 

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FYI on targeting from the rulebook. I believe the rule was correctly applied on Mikel's play under scenario 4

“‘Targeting’ means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:

  • Launch. A player leaving their feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area.
  • A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground.
  • Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.
  • Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet.”
 

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If you give the referees an opportunity to make a terrible call, especially against this program, they will do it every single time. Syracuse has to be cleaner and better than the next team.
 

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The ACC crew was still saying Williams was putting in the third quarter before they said SU was giving their backup a chance. Total incompetence.

These clowns couldn't tell Courtney Jackson and Devaughn Cooper apart either.

When you're the last pick by the TV networks every week, you get the "C" Listers.
 

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These clowns couldn't tell Courtney Jackson and Devaughn Cooper apart either.

When you're the last pick by the TV networks every week, you get the "C" Listers.
They had Dino’s record to start the game as 126-40. I wish.

Also they had no clue what the down and distance was constantly. The halftime board said Syracuse was receiving the 2h kick. It was just a bad day
 

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Solid analysis, especially with the QB spy. Unfortunately Louisville may have just set forth a blue print for other teams with that game tape. We will have to adjust.
 

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Solid analysis, especially with the QB spy. Unfortunately Louisville may have just set forth a blue print for other teams with that game tape. We will have to adjust.

I was waiting for them to roll the pocket, use the WR coming around on a hand off, anything to make them slow down in their rush.
 

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I was waiting for them to roll the pocket, use the WR coming around on a hand off, anything to make them slow down in their rush.
I ended up recording the game. I think I will delete it You would think after coaching for all these years Dino would know how to prepare a team after a bye week

I picked up a hot cast iron skillet with out a pot holder one time. Notice that I said “one time”. I learned, Dino hasn’t learned.
 

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At Louisville is just a guaranteed stinker.

Two things are guaranteed when we play in Louisville, terrible weather and we don’t show up, man we have stunk up that joint for as long as I can remember
 

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These clowns couldn't tell Courtney Jackson and Devaughn Cooper apart either.

When you're the last pick by the TV networks every week, you get the "C" Listers.


The 'c' listers describe the 'c' listers. :(
 

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For what it’s worth, the team looked absolutely miserable when they got off the team buses at Cardinal Stadium.

They all looked like, minus Shrader, that they just endured the worst possible thing in their life. Some of the fans that were there when they were unloading (myself included) greeted them with a “go orange”

Literally the only one to recognize and respond to it was Shrader and pumped his fist.

Everyone else just didn’t look happy to be there….like at all

And they played liked that.

The game was incredibly cold. Like, very cold with the wind. It felt like a late December game in Buffalo. Being an indoor team REALLY hurt us here
 

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For what it’s worth, the team looked absolutely miserable when they got off the team buses at Cardinal Stadium.

They all looked like, minus Shrader, that they just endured the worst possible thing in their life. Some of the fans that were there when they were unloading (myself included) greeted them with a “go orange”

Literally the only one to recognize and respond to it was Shrader and pumped his fist.

Everyone else just didn’t look happy to be there….like at all

And they played liked that.

The game was incredibly cold. Like, very cold with the wind. It felt like a late December game in Buffalo. Being an indoor team REALLY hurt us here
Thanks for that report.

We know Williams stayed hom with the flu. Dino mentioned the flu briefly in an interviewed before the game. Talked about how it was going around before the game.

I still haven’t been able to read the articles on the game. I am thinking a significant part of the team got the flu and played sick.

It’s the only thing that really makes sense to me. If so, props to the kids for playing sick. We’ve had a lot of bad breaks this year, this one might be the worst. Is it possible this happened and Dino and the team kept it quiet because they didn’t want to use it as an excuse?
 

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Thanks for that report.

We know Williams stayed hom with the flu. Dino mentioned the flu briefly in an interviewed before the game. Talked about how it was going around before the game.

I still haven’t been able to read the articles on the game. I am thinking a significant part of the team got the flu and played sick.

It’s the only thing that really makes sense to me. If so, props to the kids for playing sick. We’ve had a lot of bad breaks this year, this one might be the worst. Is it possible this happened and Dino and the team kept it quiet because they didn’t want to use it as an excuse?
Or if it’s anything like my kid’s elementary school where everyone assumes every stomach ache is Covid, the university didn’t want to start a panic in the community or have some official forfeit the game out of caution. On reflection, forfeiting the game would have been a better outcome… same result much less demoralizing.
 

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Ok. Maybe it was the flu. The team certainly looked lethargic. They had zero fire. I hope thats it otherwise its inexcusable given the importance of yesterday's game.
 

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Thanks for that report.

We know Williams stayed hom with the flu. Dino mentioned the flu briefly in an interviewed before the game. Talked about how it was going around before the game.

I still haven’t been able to read the articles on the game. I am thinking a significant part of the team got the flu and played sick.

It’s the only thing that really makes sense to me. If so, props to the kids for playing sick. We’ve had a lot of bad breaks this year, this one might be the worst. Is it possible this happened and Dino and the team kept it quiet because they didn’t want to use it as an excuse?

Williams was on the travel roster, but obviously didn't feel well enough to play.

Bleich didn't even travel. Tisdale was rusty.

I guess we'll never really know how many players missed practice time last week and tried to gut it out yesterday even thought they weren't 100%.
 

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Thanks for that report.

We know Williams stayed hom with the flu. Dino mentioned the flu briefly in an interviewed before the game. Talked about how it was going around before the game.

I still haven’t been able to read the articles on the game. I am thinking a significant part of the team got the flu and played sick.

It’s the only thing that really makes sense to me. If so, props to the kids for playing sick. We’ve had a lot of bad breaks this year, this one might be the worst. Is it possible this happened and Dino and the team kept it quiet because they didn’t want to use it as an excuse?
If the players were suffering from the flu I hope they left it behind in Louisville.
 

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