Niiice always good to see it in full. Only complaint is that we double up the same teams we doubled up last year. There was really no way to change that around? Also there is the whole thing with UVA looking really good next year/being out for revenge and all that. Would be nice if we could double up Duke or Unc instead.
Posted this in the other thread but probably belongs here:
About as we expected, a few general thoughts.
One thing we heard was that SU was going to look to pay some different opponents and play more games then they had under Desko. Outside of the Maryland game this looks pretty similar or really identical. Where are the new opponents? Where are the get right games?
Said it before a few times but not a fan of the Maryland game this year, asking a lot of a new HC and a revamped offense. That said if your gonna do that it has to be balanced out a bit with a few cupcakes, playing only one true cupcake in Holy Cross with this team is asking for trouble. Yes SU always plays a murderous schedule but this is the schedule a team like Duke or UVA or Maryland should be playing, legit title contenders, not this current SU team.
The last 7 games might be he toughest stretch of any team in the country. Duke, at ND, at Albany, Cornell, @ UNC, UVA, ND. Yikes. Needed a Siena or Canisius or St. Bonaventure in there to break things up. People should be prepared for some serious growing pains.
Looks like we dropped Bingo and Colgate for Stony Brook and Holy Cross.
Two more ACC games = less OOC opportunities.
Has it helped Duke win any more titles?Agreed but were also choosing to play multiple scrimmages versus adding less arduous OOC games like Duke does. We could play another 2 games if we chose to. I would have kept Colgate on the schedule, gotta have at least 2 breather type games. As sacrilegious as it is I probably would have taken a year off of the Army series. It's a game that's increasingly become a no win proposition for SU.
I think outside of MD we have a good shot at winning all of our out of conference games. Holy Cross and Hobart I don't see any potential for us to slip up. Stony Brook we beat up last year and 5 of their 6 top scorers are seniors so I assume around half of those guys do not return. Albany will of course be pumped to host us but I don't think they have the talent to keep up.Posted this in the other thread but probably belongs here:
About as we expected, a few general thoughts.
One thing we heard was that SU was going to look to pay some different opponents and play more games then they had under Desko. Outside of the Maryland game this looks pretty similar or really identical. Where are the new opponents? Where are the get right games?
Said it before a few times but not a fan of the Maryland game this year, asking a lot of a new HC and a revamped offense. That said if your gonna do that it has to be balanced out a bit with a few cupcakes, playing only one true cupcake in Holy Cross with this team is asking for trouble. Yes SU always plays a murderous schedule but this is the schedule a team like Duke or UVA or Maryland should be playing, legit title contenders, not this current SU team.
The last 7 games might be he toughest stretch of any team in the country. Duke, at ND, at Albany, Cornell, @ UNC, UVA, ND. Yikes. Needed a Siena or Canisius or St. Bonaventure in there to break things up. People should be prepared for some serious growing pains.
Has it helped Duke win any more titles?
I think outside of MD we have a good shot at winning all of our out of conference games. Holy Cross and Hobart I don't see any potential for us to slip up. Stony Brook we beat up last year and 5 of their 6 top scorers are seniors so I assume around half of those guys do not return. Albany will of course be pumped to host us but I don't think they have the talent to keep up.
The rest get tougher but not impossible. I expect a good step back for Cornell. No Jeff Teat alone is a big loss and that's not all they lose. Hopkins I am hoping doesn't improve enough to be an issue and of course we will have a very motivated Petro on the sideline. I really think we can beat Army and will be motivated after last year. Also we get them after 2 crazy tough games instead of them being first of the year.
I am ready to accept some tough times. Barring an 0-15 finish I don't see any way this year can match the sheer amount of pain and suffering we went through last year. Humiliating defeats, team shattering scandals, and most painful, extremely high expectations for the team that we completely failed to meet. This year with expectations in check, and the monster 2022 recruiting class on the horizon, I should be able to keep my chin up.
Albany just doesn't have the horses. Not one guy on the offense who scares me, especially with no Tehoka, and no stud recruit lined up to turn things around. I think all the motivation and crowd antics in the world won't make up for their current lack of talent.I agree somewhat, though I think your underselling how tough games @ Albany and Hop will be and while @ SB should be a win, hard to pencil a W for sure at this point. I will be happy if the team can simply make the tourney, tough in a year 1 of a new staff with a complete overhaul of the D to be a contender in the ACC. The 2022 class adds immense talent next year but SU will also have to replace most of the starting six on offense, its starting FOGO and multiple defenders defensively so it won't get any easier. Just think it would have made sense to dial back the schedule a bit but Gait knows a hell of a lot more then I do so so I am sure he did it for a reason.
I think outside of MD we have a good shot at winning all of our out of conference games. Holy Cross and Hobart I don't see any potential for us to slip up. Stony Brook we beat up last year and 5 of their 6 top scorers are seniors so I assume around half of those guys do not return. Albany will of course be pumped to host us but I don't think they have the talent to keep up.
The rest get tougher but not impossible. I expect a good step back for Cornell. No Jeff Teat alone is a big loss and that's not all they lose. Hopkins I am hoping doesn't improve enough to be an issue and of course we will have a very motivated Petro on the sideline. I really think we can beat Army and will be motivated after last year. Also we get them after 2 crazy tough games instead of them being first of the year.
I am ready to accept some tough times. Barring an 0-15 finish I don't see any way this year can match the sheer amount of pain and suffering we went through last year. Humiliating defeats, team shattering scandals, and most painful, extremely high expectations for the team that we completely failed to meet. This year with expectations in check, and the monster 2022 recruiting class on the horizon, I should be able to keep my chin up.
Yeah, I hear you. I just think the blowout wins are useless as far as developing players--you don't get better playing weaker competition especially on defense. All that said, the blow out loses last season still sting and still have me shaking my head: how do you beat UVA twice and play Duke to a one goal game and then get completely obliterated by the Heels, Army, ND, and G'town? I don't know, it's enough to make you a day drinker.It's helped them get to a hell of a lot more final fours. Not trying to be that guy but comparing our post-season success the last decade to Duke's isn't a great idea. Also look at UVA's schedules the last 5 years, good mix of tough games with multiple cupcake type games. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
You must be lost. Basketball board is two doors down on your rightIn order to develop depth, young players need to play in meaningful games, at meaningful times, without a short leash.
I wouldn't want to play UVA twice, but I think I'd rather play Notre Dame twice than Duke. I'm expecting ND to be slightly worse than last year and Duke to be a bit better. But who knows, really.
The ideal schedule would have been ND and UNC twice, Duke and UVA once, IMO. So this is neither the best nor worst case scenari
This is Cuse. Play to compete, play to win. Use of depth is only as good as talent of depth.In order to develop depth, young players need to play in meaningful games, at meaningful times, without a short leash.
All four acc opponents are top ten teams so yes as far as r.p.i. calculations but they can also be r.i.p. games for subjective selections if Cuse is not highly competitive in those
I may be missing something here, but doesn't doubling up against two acc teams funtion as the same "blatant RPI booster" that the acc tourney was? It could actually be more of a booster as every acc team gets a guaranteed 2 extra acc games instead of two teams getting one extra and one team getting none.