OL - Who knows - Updated

[GoSU96]

Jake made a comment elsewhere about how the OL is trending up.

Depending on what Rice does here is where the roster is:

Top 12 (Apologize if the class is wrong)

Collins 6/3 300 Sr,
Weatherspoon 6/7 330 Sr,
Petry 6/4 301 Sr;
‘Ferguson 6/4 330 Sr;
Cruz 6/5 308 Jr;
Rice 6/5 305 Jr
Miller 6/4 303 So;
Mack 6/6 312 So;
Betrand 6/6 320; So
Brown-Miller 6/6 354 Rfr;
Pringle 6/8 335 Rfr
Washington 6/7 380 Fr

Development
Schevchenko 6/7 292 Rfr
Harvey 6/7 330 Fr
Mann 6/5 295 Fr
Hawn 6/6 270 Fr
Scatliffe 6/7 270 Fr
Shepard 6/7 300 Fr
Stewart 6/4 317 Fr

 

[baggerbob]

Jake made a comment elsewhere about how the OL is trending up.

Depending on what Rice does here is where the roster is:

Top 10 (Apologize if the class is wrong)

Collins 6/3 300 Sr,
Weatherspoon 6/7 330 Sr,
Petry 6/4 301 Sr;
Cruz 6/5 308 Jr;
Miller 6/4 303 So;
Mack 6/6 312 So;
Betrand 6/6 320;
Brown-Miller 6/6 312 Rfr;
Pringle 6/8 335 Rfr
Washington 6/7 380 Fr

Development
Schevchenko 6/7 292 Rfr
Harvey 6/7 330 Fr
Mann 6/5 295 Fr
Hawn 6/6 270 Fr
Scatliffe 6/7 270 Fr
Shepard 6/7 300 Fr
Stewart 6/4 317

On deck?
Zach Rice 6/5 305 So
Orion Irving 6/6 310 Jr

Even if nobody else joins I would hope they can find a mid-tier ACC OL

15 are 6-5 or better, and 15 are 300 lbs or better. 4 freshman 6-7 292, 6-5 295, 6-6 270, 6-7 270 all 4 have the size to add good weight to be 310 or better.

 

[Sdot]

Jake made a comment elsewhere about how the OL is trending up.

Depending on what Rice does here is where the roster is:

Top 10 (Apologize if the class is wrong)

Collins 6/3 300 Sr,
Weatherspoon 6/7 330 Sr,
Petry 6/4 301 Sr;
Cruz 6/5 308 Jr;
Miller 6/4 303 So;
Mack 6/6 312 So;
Betrand 6/6 320;
Brown-Miller 6/6 312 Rfr;
Pringle 6/8 335 Rfr
Washington 6/7 380 Fr

Development
Schevchenko 6/7 292 Rfr
Harvey 6/7 330 Fr
Mann 6/5 295 Fr
Hawn 6/6 270 Fr
Scatliffe 6/7 270 Fr
Shepard 6/7 300 Fr
Stewart 6/4 317

On deck?
Zach Rice 6/5 305 So
Orion Irving 6/6 310 Jr

Even if nobody else joins I would hope they can find a mid-tier ACC OL

Irving is probably going to Vanderbilt. I think we see a Rice commitment this week.

 

[kcsu]

Goal line O line
Center Collins
either side spoon, betrand, Pringle, Washington

 

[OttosShoes]

Just to put things in perspective how far we've come...

...back in the Dino era I remember watching an away game on TV. We were on offense, and my wife--who is only very mildly interest in football--said "How come their guys look so much bigger?"

 

[RF2044]

Jake made a comment elsewhere about how the OL is trending up.

Depending on what Rice does here is where the roster is:

Top 10 (Apologize if the class is wrong)

Collins 6/3 300 Sr,
Weatherspoon 6/7 330 Sr,
Petry 6/4 301 Sr;
Cruz 6/5 308 Jr;
Miller 6/4 303 So;
Mack 6/6 312 So;
Betrand 6/6 320;
Brown-Miller 6/6 312 Rfr;
Pringle 6/8 335 Rfr
Washington 6/7 380 Fr

Development
Schevchenko 6/7 292 Rfr
Harvey 6/7 330 Fr
Mann 6/5 295 Fr
Hawn 6/6 270 Fr
Scatliffe 6/7 270 Fr
Shepard 6/7 300 Fr
Stewart 6/4 317

On deck?
Zach Rice 6/5 305 So
Orion Irving 6/6 310 Jr

Even if nobody else joins I would hope they can find a mid-tier ACC OL

Honest question -- not knocking the analysis. Is there any expectation that Brown-Miller is somehow going to crack the two-deep? Maybe I missed something, I just didn't expect him to see the field.

 

[PeteCalvin]

Just to put things in perspective how far we've come...

...back in the Dino era I remember watching an away game on TV. We were on offense, and my wife--who is only very mildly interest in football--said "How come their guys look so much bigger?"

A family member went down to Tallahassee for one of the beatdowns we took at FSU. I think it was the game where our DB got hurt (forget who). Anyway, he was down on field level and sent me a photo of what our players and their players looked like next to each other. I was horrified.

 

[GoSU96]

Honest question -- not knocking the analysis. Is there any expectation that Brown-Miller is somehow going to crack the two-deep? Maybe I missed something, I just didn't expect him to see the field.

He was on the second line in the spring game. He might be at the back of the line and get bumped down, but certainly has the size and the benefit of being in the program.

 

[LAOrange]

Jake made a comment elsewhere about how the OL is trending up.

Depending on what Rice does here is where the roster is:

Top 10 (Apologize if the class is wrong)

Collins 6/3 300 Sr,
Weatherspoon 6/7 330 Sr,
Petry 6/4 301 Sr;
Cruz 6/5 308 Jr;
Miller 6/4 303 So;
Mack 6/6 312 So;
Betrand 6/6 320;
Brown-Miller 6/6 312 Rfr;
Pringle 6/8 335 Rfr
Washington 6/7 380 Fr

Development
Schevchenko 6/7 292 Rfr
Harvey 6/7 330 Fr
Mann 6/5 295 Fr
Hawn 6/6 270 Fr
Scatliffe 6/7 270 Fr
Shepard 6/7 300 Fr
Stewart 6/4 317

On deck?
Zach Rice 6/5 305 So
Orion Irving 6/6 310 Jr

Even if nobody else joins I would hope they can find a mid-tier ACC OL

How does this size compare to other ACC teams?

 

[RF2044]

How does this size compare to other ACC teams?

Favorably. Outside of a few true frosh [who will be just at the beginning of their physical maturity curve when they arrive this summer], everyone else is ~300 pounds.

A couple of those guys are mammoths who are even an increment bigger / larger than that.

The question is: can some of those guys actually PLAY. The sure look the part getting off of the bus.

 

[Red2003]

Rice is committed, not sure if someone said above. a former 5 star OL prospect. That used to happen all the time NOT

 

[PAcuse]

Big guys beat up little guys
Glad to see some real size with the starters and depth at the OL

 

[cardiac]

2023 vs 2024
LT: Spoon/Wohlabaugh LT: Mack/Pringle
LG: Bradford/Hornsby LG: Cruz/Rice
C: Reed/Illoa C: Austin Collins
RG: Petry/Cruz RG: Petry/Miller
RT: Washington/Cruz RT: Spoon/Bertrand

Did the line get better?

 

[SanDiegoCuse]

2023 vs 2024
LT: Spoon/Wohlabaugh LT: Mack/Pringle
LG: Bradford/Hornsby LG: Cruz/Rice
C: Reed/Illoa C: Austin Collins
RG: Petry/Cruz RG: Petry/Miller
RT: Washington/Cruz RT: Spoon/Bertrand

Did the line get better?

It certainly got larger and more athletic overall. Better is TBD.

 

[SURules]

I wish we still had the General at Center as then I would stack this OL against any in the ACC.

 

[Cusefan69]

I wish we still had the General at Center as then I would stack this OL against any in the ACC.

Yeah Center still has me concerned. Getting all the new players aligned and in lockstep will take some time. A few unknowns with existing players. That group has allot to prove before I get to bullish BUT there is good talent in these guys. Coaching and team building will be critical. Would love to know if the oline group is mostlty staying in Syracuse over the summer. Get them all lifting and hanging out together.

 

[richmondcuse03]

I think our depth has certainly improved.

Curious if Betrand has showed anything in spring. Certainly seems like they’ve added more guys above him.

 

[Dinkyspond]

A family member went down to Tallahassee for one of the beatdowns we took at FSU. I think it was the game where our DB got hurt (forget who). Anyway, he was down on field level and sent me a photo of what our players and their players looked like next to each other. I was horrified.

I think it was Julian Whigham. Jimbo Fisher went to see him in the hospital. Think what you want about Jimbo but that was class on his part.

 

[ezbeezy214]

We’re gonna get a bunch of nonsense about all of them playing all the positions for most of summer/fall and then Dale will randomly just say the 5 in his last media availability. Spoon Perry are the locks I think, maybe Collins.

 

[PeteCalvin]

I think it was Julian Whigham. Jimbo Fisher went to see him in the hospital. Think what you want about Jimbo but that was class on his part.

Yes. It was the Whigham game. Thanks for the assist!

I was just blown away by the size difference between the FSU linemen and our linemen. It was clear why we were not competing in the trenches with the big boys back then.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Should we be worried that the OL is going to be completely new two weeks before the season? The coaches have little time to evaluate where people should play. The players have little time to gel. OL is a unit while every other player is in a position.

 

[bnoro]

LT: Pringle
LG: Ferguson
C: Collins
RG: Cruz/Petry
RT: Spoon/Rice

 

[AngryOtto]

Should we be worried that the OL is going to be completely new two weeks before the season? The coaches have little time to evaluate where people should play. The players have little time to gel. OL is a unit while every other player is in a position.

These guys will be showing up probably mid to late May. They will begin working out together and practicing together but without the coaches. Not sure if consultants and grad students can work with them during this time. Camp will add pads but they will have three months together before the season.

 

[dasher]

Should we be worried that the OL is going to be completely new two weeks before the season? The coaches have little time to evaluate where people should play. The players have little time to gel. OL is a unit while every other player is in a position.

Actually, the time to worry was probably a few weeks back before we got these new guys. The coaches probably wouldn't be bringing in four guys if they liked what they saw.

 

[OttosShoes]

These guys will be showing up probably mid to late May. They will begin working out together and practicing together but without the coaches. Not sure if consultants and grad students can work with them during this time. Camp will add pads but they will have three months together before the season.

Yeah this. These guys will get some time to work together.

FWIW, I did track and not football, but NCAA allows for "Captain's Practices." The veterans on the team already knew how to lead all the regular drills, had all the contact info, and would organize the time and places. We weren't allowed any staff members or coaches to be there but IIRC there were grad students. They weren't mandatory in the traditional sense, but everybody would know if and when somebody didn't show up.

Even when campus was closed, people in dorms would come and crash at the off campus rentals of upperclassman, and we'd have big "spaghetti" or "pizza" or "chicken and rice" type of dinners. Talking about it, I really miss those days...the competition gets all the credit but there's a million great moments that lead up to it.

edit: Ah, more coming back to me lol. We'd play pickup football too. The throwers were the lines, the sprinters the receivers and DBs, and decathletes the running backs and LBs.