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Who is Villanova?


Turn back the clock five years. I remember looking at the rosters, recruits, and coaches of every Big East teams and thinking that Syracuse and Villanova were set up to dominate. Syracuse was able to live up to expectations, but for some reason Villanova did not. I would have loved to be a fly on Villanova's wall just to see where things went wrong for them. Usually when the coaching is good and the recruiting is good the win/loss record is good, but Villanova somehow managed a mediocre record despite good recruiting and good coaching. Whatever was holding them back seems to have resolved itself. Villanova is undefeated and ranked 8th in the country. Even more importantly, their schedule offers few tests (Syracuse is the last top 25 team they face) so a gaudy record all but assured. Villanova's staples are pressure defense and predilection towards recruiting players between 6'2-6'6.



How will Villanova attack Syracuse?


Expect lots of three point shots. Last year Villanova took 23 and 27 three point shots in their two games against Syracuse. This year, Villanova is averaging just under 27 three point shots a game. To put this in perspective, you have to go all the way back to Syracuse's November 16th game against Colgate to find a team that shot over 22 threes.



Expect Villanova to push the tempo. They play fast and score 82.5 points per game on average. Against Syracuse there is a great incentive to get your shot off before the zone sets up, so I expect them to push the ball after every missed shot and turnover.


Expect lots of skilled guards. All but 3.7 of Villanova's 82.5 points per game come from players between 6'2 and 6'7. They are going to have three or four shooters spreading the floor at all times. JayVaughn Pinkston (a 6'7 forward who can shoot, pass or drive to the basket ) is going to set up in the middle of the zone and make plays. When its not him, its going to be James Bell who is 6'6 and not the burly physical presence that Pinkston is, but a guy who will compensate by being quicker and more skilled.


Expect to see abnormal amounts of room for Villanova to operate inside the Syracuse zone. They are going to spread the floor with guards who can shoot, pass, and drive to the basket. This is going to create passing lanes and rebounding opportunities that don't usually exist. Pinkston is more skilled than most players who operate in the middle of SU's zone, and he is going to have more room to operate than most. Bad combination.


Expect to see Villanova score some points. They won't shoot or score as efficiently as Baylor did, but SU will not be able to shut them down the way they shut Indiana down either, and unlike Baylor, Villanova will protect the ball.



How will Syracuse attack Villanova?


I am a big fan of Syracuse's 2-3 zone defense, so you might be surprised to hear that I am also a big fan of Villanova's press. On the surface they seem as different as defenses can be, but philosophically they serve the same function, to limit mismatches. All offenses use ball screens regularly, so the challenge for any defense becomes dealing with the chaos that ball screens create. Syracuse makes its players fight through ball screens, but, with the protection of a back line of long athletes perfectly positioned to help if need be. Villanova's answer is to switch on every screen, but switch among strong guards capable of covering multiple positions. Screen Villanova and you will only accomplish trading one strong 6'2-6'6 defender for another. Its difficult if not impossible to find a mismatch against either defense.


Penetration is necessary to break down Villanova's defense, but as I explained ball screens are not much help, so you want to have someone who can beat his man off the dribble one on one. Syracuse has two, Tyler Ennis and Jerami Grant. I expect both to use theses skills repeatedly.


James Bell will spend a lot of time guarding Fair. He is shorter, but quicker, and will get in Fair's pocket and stay there. Just the kind of player that has given Fair problems in the past. In the off season Fair worked on creating offense off the dribble. He is going to have to put it to use in this game.


So long as Ennis, Grant, and Fair are up to the challenge, Syracuse will be able to score against Villanova's tough defense.


Key's to the Game:


Ennis finishing around the basket. It has been one of his few inconsistencies thus far, and in this game we can take it as a given that Villanova is going to pressure him, and he is going to penetrate. His ability to put the ball in the hoop once he gets there may decide the game.


Getting back in transition. Villanova is quicker than Syracuse and runs more than Syracuse. The ability to get back in transition is historically not a problem Syracuse suffers from, but this is a relatively slow Syracuse team that can be hurt in transition by the likes of Villanova and North Carolina. As always the best way to defend transition offense is to score on offense and limit turnovers.


Grant's health and free throw shooting. Grant scored 12 points against Villanova last year as a little used freshman fill-in. His skill set can cause them problems. If he can drive to the basket and absorb the hits they put on him, then he will get plenty of chances from the line.


Villanova's three point shooting. They take a lot of threes, but don't necessarily hit a high percentage of them. If they are hot from deep, Syracuse is in for a long day.


Predictions:


Villanova easily wins the rebounding battle. Last season Villanova out rebounded Syracuse by 8 and 13 in the two games they played. Because Villanova is small people assume they can't rebound, but this is not the case, and in fact they are historically a very good rebounding team who spreads defenses out then uses their speed to get to long rebounds.


Cooney's ball handling will become more important than his shooting. At some point in the game (if not from the beginning) Villanova is going to realize that Ennis's ball handling can hurt them and set up their press to keep the ball away from him (Minnesota did this). It will be up to Cooney handle the ball in this situation and get Syracuse into its offense. Like against Minnesota, he will handle this well.


Daniel Ochefu, Villanova's lone big man, will put up better than average numbers. He's not a stat stuffer, averaging just under 4 points per game, but against Syracuse he should be able to get open down low a few times. Don't be surprised if he puts up a double double.


Good guard play overcomes good defense, and there are few turnovers in this game despite both teams being very good at forcing turnovers.


The game is close, with a lot of good offense on both sides.
 
Who is Villanova?


Turn back the clock five years. I remember looking at the rosters, recruits, and coaches of every Big East teams and thinking that Syracuse and Villanova were set up to dominate. Syracuse was able to live up to expectations, but for some reason Villanova did not. I would have loved to be a fly on Villanova's wall just to see where things went wrong for them. ...

The Coreys and Scottie Reynolds not getting along, from what I understand. How they lost to St. Mary's in 2010, I'll never know. Throw in Yarou missing so much time and not really developing like you'd hope a McDonald's big to develop and they nosedived after the Final Four and great start to 2010.

Losing Pinkston for his freshman year also really hurt them. He's a player.
 
Who is Villanova?


Turn back the clock five years. I remember looking at the rosters, recruits, and coaches of every Big East teams and thinking that Syracuse and Villanova were set up to dominate. Syracuse was able to live up to expectations, but for some reason Villanova did not. I would have loved to be a fly on Villanova's wall just to see where things went wrong for them. Usually when the coaching is good and the recruiting is good the win/loss record is good, but Villanova somehow managed a mediocre record despite good recruiting and good coaching. Whatever was holding them back seems to have resolved itself. Villanova is undefeated and ranked 8th in the country. Even more importantly, their schedule offers few tests (Syracuse is the last top 25 team they face) so a gaudy record all but assured. Villanova's staples are pressure defense and predilection towards recruiting players between 6'2-6'6.



How will Villanova attack Syracuse?


Expect lots of three point shots. Last year Villanova took 23 and 27 three point shots in their two games against Syracuse. This year, Villanova is averaging just under 27 three point shots a game. To put this in perspective, you have to go all the way back to Syracuse's November 16th game against Colgate to find a team that shot over 22 threes.



Expect Villanova to push the tempo. They play fast and score 82.5 points per game on average. Against Syracuse there is a great incentive to get your shot off before the zone sets up, so I expect them to push the ball after every missed shot and turnover.


Expect lots of skilled guards. All but 3.7 of Villanova's 82.5 points per game come from players between 6'2 and 6'7. They are going to have three or four shooters spreading the floor at all times. JayVaughn Pinkston (a 6'7 forward who can shoot, pass or drive to the basket ) is going to set up in the middle of the zone and make plays. When its not him, its going to be James Bell who is 6'6 and not the burly physical presence that Pinkston is, but a guy who will compensate by being quicker and more skilled.


Expect to see abnormal amounts of room for Villanova to operate inside the Syracuse zone. They are going to spread the floor with guards who can shoot, pass, and drive to the basket. This is going to create passing lanes and rebounding opportunities that don't usually exist. Pinkston is more skilled than most players who operate in the middle of SU's zone, and he is going to have more room to operate than most. Bad combination.


Expect to see Villanova score some points. They won't shoot or score as efficiently as Baylor did, but SU will not be able to shut them down the way they shut Indiana down either, and unlike Baylor, Villanova will protect the ball.



How will Syracuse attack Villanova?


I am a big fan of Syracuse's 2-3 zone defense, so you might be surprised to hear that I am also a big fan of Villanova's press. On the surface they seem as different as defenses can be, but philosophically they serve the same function, to limit mismatches. All offenses use ball screens regularly, so the challenge for any defense becomes dealing with the chaos that ball screens create. Syracuse makes its players fight through ball screens, but, with the protection of a back line of long athletes perfectly positioned to help if need be. Villanova's answer is to switch on every screen, but switch among strong guards capable of covering multiple positions. Screen Villanova and you will only accomplish trading one strong 6'2-6'6 defender for another. Its difficult if not impossible to find a mismatch against either defense.


Penetration is necessary to break down Villanova's defense, but as I explained ball screens are not much help, so you want to have someone who can beat his man off the dribble one on one. Syracuse has two, Tyler Ennis and Jerami Grant. I expect both to use theses skills repeatedly.


James Bell will spend a lot of time guarding Fair. He is shorter, but quicker, and will get in Fair's pocket and stay there. Just the kind of player that has given Fair problems in the past. In the off season Fair worked on creating offense off the dribble. He is going to have to put it to use in this game.


So long as Ennis, Grant, and Fair are up to the challenge, Syracuse will be able to score against Villanova's tough defense.


Key's to the Game:


Ennis finishing around the basket. It has been one of his few inconsistencies thus far, and in this game we can take it as a given that Villanova is going to pressure him, and he is going to penetrate. His ability to put the ball in the hoop once he gets there may decide the game.


Getting back in transition. Villanova is quicker than Syracuse and runs more than Syracuse. The ability to get back in transition is historically not a problem Syracuse suffers from, but this is a relatively slow Syracuse team that can be hurt in transition by the likes of Villanova and North Carolina. As always the best way to defend transition offense is to score on offense and limit turnovers.


Grant's health and free throw shooting. Grant scored 12 points against Villanova last year as a little used freshman fill-in. His skill set can cause them problems. If he can drive to the basket and absorb the hits they put on him, then he will get plenty of chances from the line.


Villanova's three point shooting. They take a lot of threes, but don't necessarily hit a high percentage of them. If they are hot from deep, Syracuse is in for a long day.


Predictions:


Villanova easily wins the rebounding battle. Last season Villanova out rebounded Syracuse by 8 and 13 in the two games they played. Because Villanova is small people assume they can't rebound, but this is not the case, and in fact they are historically a very good rebounding team who spreads defenses out then uses their speed to get to long rebounds.


Cooney's ball handling will become more important than his shooting. At some point in the game (if not from the beginning) Villanova is going to realize that Ennis's ball handling can hurt them and set up their press to keep the ball away from him (Minnesota did this). It will be up to Cooney handle the ball in this situation and get Syracuse into its offense. Like against Minnesota, he will handle this well.


Daniel Ochefu, Villanova's lone big man, will put up better than average numbers. He's not a stat stuffer, averaging just under 4 points per game, but against Syracuse he should be able to get open down low a few times. Don't be surprised if he puts up a double double.


Good guard play overcomes good defense, and there are few turnovers in this game despite both teams being very good at forcing turnovers.


The game is close, with a lot of good offense on both sides.


thats all well and good but who wins the game?????????????????
 
what i've always admired about the nova system (going back to rollie) is that they make you play their game.
 
Daniel Ochefu could get in foul trouble. That would be very bad for Nova. They have no size behind him.
 
The 6' 10 Yarou always killed us on the boards and his ability to hit the 10-12 footer from the FT line. At least he's gone. Bell has also played well against us. Harrell can be hot or cold. Grant has to hurt Nova inside or it will be very tough for us. And hope that Rak shows up for one of his good games. This is the type of team that DC2 could really hurt inside offensively but I don't know if his defense will allow him to stay in the game much.
 
Great Analysis General. I think this game really comes down to us not turning the ball over and staying on the attack. If we can score against their pressure consistently Wright will scale it back. Also - turnovers not only create points for them but allow them to set up the pressure back to back possessions. We should not be shooting many jumpers. Get into the lane and force them to foul. If Ochefu and Pinkston run into foul trouble they are going to really struggle. Bell does a great job rebounding on the weak side as well but primarily when Ochefu is in the game to draw a box out. Should be a good game. Wouldn't surprise me to see us jump on nova early like Iowa did and have them close the gap to make it a nail biter.
 
They won't shoot a high percentage, but they crash the boards. The main reason we got clipped down there is because we got hammered on the glass. Nova is aggressive. We need to be about even with them.
 
I'm hoping the 30,000+ fans inspire the team. This team seems to find a way to win at the end of games. I sure hope they step up to the challenge and play at the top of their game.
 
They won't shoot a high percentage, but they crash the boards. The main reason we got clipped down there is because we got hammered on the glass. Nova is aggressive. We need to be about even with them.

The bolded is the key. Whoever plays the most aggressively and confidently will win the game.
 
I think Patterson and Roberson get opportunities to show something in the first half today. I don't think you will see a lot of the two big line up today. JB will rotate the guards in the first half to keep them fresh late and out of early foul trouble.
 
Nova can play small. I'd rather see Pinkston in foul trouble than Ochefu.

The key to this happening may be a couple early ones on Ochefu though. Pinkston will be easier to attach if he has to guard our big guy and help off on penetration. I know you think Bell guards CJ which makes sense but that would leave Pinkston on either Rak or DC2 to start the game and I'm interested to see who we post up first if that happens.
 
I think Patterson and Roberson get opportunities to show something in the first half today. I don't think you will see a lot of the two big line up today. JB will rotate the guards in the first half to keep them fresh late and out of early foul trouble.

I'd be very surprised to see that. I don't disagree that we could get away from the 2 bigs quickly depending on how the first few minutes go but it would be to get Grant in the game not Roberson or Buss. IMO if Roberson and Buss play its a great thing for us because it means we really controlled the game for 30+ minutes to get them in.
 
The key to this happening may be a couple early ones on Ochefu though. Pinkston will be easier to attach if he has to guard our big guy and help off on penetration. I know you think Bell guards CJ which makes sense but that would leave Pinkston on either Rak or DC2 to start the game and I'm interested to see who we post up first if that happens.

Hey, I love our guys, and not saying it can't happen, but if either Rak or DC2 shows the ability to truly influence the game with their offensive play, it would be a first.
 
I think DC2 could be a key player this game. You have to figure JB will look DC2's way early. DC2 could get the Villanova bigs to foul him and that would affect the game.

I also think a lot of fouls may be called. And DC2 can help take advantage if Vill has to go deep into their bigs depth.

At least that's what I am hoping for.
 
this very dilemma has already popped up earlier this year. boeheim in fact already stated that our big guys have trouble defending smaller players. in all the years i watched him coach JB seldom presses a size advantage offensively down low and instead almost always chooses to play small ball.
 
Hey, I love our guys, and not saying it can't happen, but if either Rak or DC2 shows the ability to truly influence the game with their offensive play, it would be a first.

They have both done it in spurts. DC2's real advantage in this game has been that he does draw fouls at a very good rate and JB will be looking to pressure the little bit of size that Nova has. Rak hasn't gotten many oppertunities but of late in the last couple of games he capitalized on the ones he has gotten. I'm not looking for domination but 2 early fouls on either big guy could be the difference for us and both these guys are capable of ding that.
 
I'd be very surprised to see that. I don't disagree that we could get away from the 2 bigs quickly depending on how the first few minutes go but it would be to get Grant in the game not Roberson or Buss. IMO if Roberson and Buss play its a great thing for us because it means we really controlled the game for 30+ minutes to get them in.
I slightly disagree. IMO, if Roberson and/or Buss play it is more likely for foul problems or foul protection than it would be for developmental reasons from a blow out.

I think Vill will try and attack off the dribble and draw fouls. I think JB in response will want most of Rak's fouls to be available at the center position. If CJ or Grant pick up fouls it will be interesting to see JB's strategy.
 
I enjoyed reading this in depth preview and then the game summaries. Thanks to General for giving casual fans greater depth in understanding strategy and potential ways the game might have developed. :)

Now I am anticipating General's post game comments!
 

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