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Message: [QUOTE="44PRIDE, post: 92813, member: 77"] Its not about kids wanting to "party over work"... When doug first got here, he ruled with an iron fist in order to instill some discipline into the program. Yeah, we lost some kids, but Doug weeded out the "non-hackers" from the real players. Three years later, Doug still chooses to rule with the same iron fist. These kids have busted their collective asses for Doug over the past few years. At some point, you need to loosen the reins a little bit or else your message will simply get tuned out. [/QUOTE]