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Message: [QUOTE="mantonio, post: 94389, member: 709"] If you have inferior talent to all other teams in the conference, & you can still get at least 5 wins in a season, that is something to build on... You are looking at this entirely the wrong way. We ALREADY have the designs on a well run program vs. a poorly operated program. With the SAME talent, GROB runs the program into the ground, with 4 wins as the best he could muster... Marrone takes it & wins 4 games in his first season, with the chance to win 6 or 7 games in his first season. Then, turns that into 8 games last season. THEN, comes in with a severely depleted defense & still not enough playmakers on offense, MINUS their biggest threat in Delone Carter... And AGAIN, sadly lacking in the talent that blesses all other conference opponents... I have seen this show before, back in the 80's, & it ended quite well... Give it just a little more time, & then we will be in a better position to judge this program. [/QUOTE]