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Obviously this is not big news to this site; however, many Oklahoma fans are not happy with the Big 12. I am officially an OU dad so I have been reading a few OU sites. I was up in Norman this past weekend helping my daughter move into her apartment and spoke with a few local fans up there.
Basically, they are unsure of what Texas is doing. OU refused an overture from the SEC and now many are regretting it. Many are now realizing that people are throwing around numbers that are not real nor are they likely to get significantly better. I.e. Each school has a media deal that is on top of their conference deal, but the claims for the Big 12 payouts are skewed to deny that teams from other conferences receive these funds. Also, they are now realizing that WVU and TCU received only a portion of the payout so the other eight teams received more than a equal share. When they compared that to the SEC, B1G, ACC and PAC 12 they realized they are about to get hosed. Also, they are now realizing that the LHN is a boon for UT, but their own 3rd tier deal requires them to pony up the production costs and staff 100 people to do so, the $7MM for 3rd tier rights sounds good, but is actually much less that advertised.
Many fans are looking for any out they can find, SEC, B1G, Pac 12, even the ACC by a few. All seem to realize that the GOR is the hold up in that the financial side of breaking the GOR is excessive. Some have concluded that if UT and OU both jump, the conference is effectively disbanded and they may break the GOR at that time. They know that the school administration makes the decisions, but as fans they are no longer disillusioned.
Also, it is rumored (as no one has a copy of the GOR) that there may be a "look in" where in some or all teams may be able to simply buy out their remaining time for a set fee (which amount is in dispute) but if so, conference realignment may start up again.
Most fans blame Texas, their president and/or DeLoss Dodds. Most don't care whether they remain in a conference with UT or not. Some big donors are having similar complaints/concerns/general dissatisfaction. Most realize that WVU was a mistake, at least as a solo eastern addition. Most dislike WVU already. Most wish they had Louisville, even if it meant 11 teams. Many are looking to add a Florida team. Some are fantasizing about Arkansas and MSState leaving the SEC.
See: http://www.landthieves.com/board/sh...t-Part-V-Hey-I-Just-Met-You-amp-This-Is-Crazy
The comments in the thread are backed up by the comments of Sooner fans I met in Norman.
Naturally, living in Texas, I viewed one of the many UT boards, which was established when OrangeBloods went wacky.
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/sho...going-away?s=b697e53a0ca2092d926d56d6b168a43e
This is a very long thread (626 pages, 50 posts/page), skip to near the end. If you can get past the self adoration of all things UT, you can view some similar discontent with the Bevo 12. Most realize they missed the boat on Louisville, with some still thinking that Louisville will jump from the ACC if they get an invite (also, FSU is headed their way according to some nut jobs), but reasonable heads admit the GOR will stop that from happening.
Anyway, just passing along some anecdotal intel from the Big 12 perspective not originating from WVU. Also, most posters on both sites discount anything from a WVU source - proof that there is some good in these two fan bases. This can all be summed up with Arb's assessment: "It's good to be the Orange!"
Basically, they are unsure of what Texas is doing. OU refused an overture from the SEC and now many are regretting it. Many are now realizing that people are throwing around numbers that are not real nor are they likely to get significantly better. I.e. Each school has a media deal that is on top of their conference deal, but the claims for the Big 12 payouts are skewed to deny that teams from other conferences receive these funds. Also, they are now realizing that WVU and TCU received only a portion of the payout so the other eight teams received more than a equal share. When they compared that to the SEC, B1G, ACC and PAC 12 they realized they are about to get hosed. Also, they are now realizing that the LHN is a boon for UT, but their own 3rd tier deal requires them to pony up the production costs and staff 100 people to do so, the $7MM for 3rd tier rights sounds good, but is actually much less that advertised.
Many fans are looking for any out they can find, SEC, B1G, Pac 12, even the ACC by a few. All seem to realize that the GOR is the hold up in that the financial side of breaking the GOR is excessive. Some have concluded that if UT and OU both jump, the conference is effectively disbanded and they may break the GOR at that time. They know that the school administration makes the decisions, but as fans they are no longer disillusioned.
Also, it is rumored (as no one has a copy of the GOR) that there may be a "look in" where in some or all teams may be able to simply buy out their remaining time for a set fee (which amount is in dispute) but if so, conference realignment may start up again.
Most fans blame Texas, their president and/or DeLoss Dodds. Most don't care whether they remain in a conference with UT or not. Some big donors are having similar complaints/concerns/general dissatisfaction. Most realize that WVU was a mistake, at least as a solo eastern addition. Most dislike WVU already. Most wish they had Louisville, even if it meant 11 teams. Many are looking to add a Florida team. Some are fantasizing about Arkansas and MSState leaving the SEC.
See: http://www.landthieves.com/board/sh...t-Part-V-Hey-I-Just-Met-You-amp-This-Is-Crazy
The comments in the thread are backed up by the comments of Sooner fans I met in Norman.
Naturally, living in Texas, I viewed one of the many UT boards, which was established when OrangeBloods went wacky.
http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/sho...going-away?s=b697e53a0ca2092d926d56d6b168a43e
This is a very long thread (626 pages, 50 posts/page), skip to near the end. If you can get past the self adoration of all things UT, you can view some similar discontent with the Bevo 12. Most realize they missed the boat on Louisville, with some still thinking that Louisville will jump from the ACC if they get an invite (also, FSU is headed their way according to some nut jobs), but reasonable heads admit the GOR will stop that from happening.
Anyway, just passing along some anecdotal intel from the Big 12 perspective not originating from WVU. Also, most posters on both sites discount anything from a WVU source - proof that there is some good in these two fan bases. This can all be summed up with Arb's assessment: "It's good to be the Orange!"
