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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4612629, member: 5685"] I am talking NCAA. If he finishes his contract he will be at worst 4th all time in Ws. If he hadn't stepped away 4x (11 seasons missed), he would likely be #1. He has taken 5 different schools to the NCAAT (St Johns could be #6). He has taken 3 different schools to the F4 and has 7 F4s total. He only has 2 Titles though, but IMO him jumping around held him back from winning others (like in 1998). [/QUOTE]