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Steve Phillips just picked UNC-Ashe...

If he picked against the spread then sure why not. But if he picked them to win outright he is more of a moron that I thought.
 
themorey said:
If he picked against the spread then sure why not. But if he picked them to win outright he is more of a moron that I thought.
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Picked them outright
 
Maybe he's mad that boeheim wasn't fired last week as he demanded
 
What does this guy actually have an a platform to speak. If so, this is hilarious go Steve keep picking against us. He and Joe Morgan were the worst pair of color commentators together, and his fake press conferences were unintentional comedy gold.
 
Not to support this Jackass in anyway, but this is the you get stuck with when your the first 2 seed to lose to a 15 and people still remember the Vermont debacle. All that beign said, we would have to play by far our worst game of the year with everyone absolutely struggling and Ashville would have to play there best game of the last Decade to win.

Truthfully the 1 vs 16 game has always made me nervous as a Cuse fan but with this years team and comig off a loss how could this team look past anyone or think they just need to show up?
 
2 years ago we got a lot of talk about Vermont as a 16 possibly beating us.

Have any other 1 seeds ever had people pick against them? I can't think of any off hand.
 
Orangemen said:
2 years ago we got a lot of talk about Vermont as a 16 possibly beating us.

Have any other 1 seeds ever had people pick against them? I can't think of any off hand.
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LOL ya know its funny I dont think I have either. I can remember guys saying "so and so team will keep it close" but nothing like the stuff we are getting. Last night Greg Anthony openly said Cuse better watch out for Ashville and during the ESPN U Broadcast of bracketology with there 8 experts the Host asked the Panel if he thought SU could be upset by Ashville based on our losses to Vermont and Richmond in prior years.
 
JeremyCuse said:
Not to support this Jackass in anyway, but this is the **** you get stuck with when your the first 2 seed to lose to a 15 and people still remember the Vermont debacle. All that beign said, we would have to play by far our worst game of the year with everyone absolutely struggling and Ashville would have to play there best game of the last Decade to win.

Truthfully the 1 vs 16 game has always made me nervous as a Cuse fan but with this years team and comig off a loss how could this team look past anyone or think they just need to show up?
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People had the same concerns in 2010 and we were up 30 on Vermont in the second half before JB clearned his bench. A #16 seed will not beat a #16 seed ever. Plain and simple. There have been scares (I reemmber when Albany was up double digits on Uconn midway through the second half a few years ago before Uconn steamrolled them) but the talent gap is huge.

People should have no concerns Thursday whatsoever. We have mismatches all over the floor.
 
But we weren't the only team getting that...there were a lot of talk about Kansas losing to Detroit in the 2nd round (as Bilas said "..60 teams get a 1st round bye..").
 
Marsh01 said:
People had the same concerns in 2010 and we were up 30 on Vermont in the second half before JB clearned his bench. A #16 seed will not beat a #16 seed ever. Plain and simple. There have been scares (I reemmber when Albany was up double digits on Uconn midway through the second half a few years ago before Uconn steamrolled them) but the talent gap is huge.

People should have no concerns Thursday whatsoever. We have mismatches all over the floor.
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Great I wasn't worried before.

Anyway this comes with the territory when you're the first #2 to lose to a 15. I will say it still gets me that the media considers 2005 to be some legendary upset. Vermont over Syracuse wasn't even the biggest upset THAT DAY.
 
JeremyCuse said:
Truthfully the 1 vs 16 game has always made me nervous as a Cuse fan but with this years team and comig off a loss how could this team look past anyone or think they just need to show up?
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THIS is exactly why i'm not concerned about Asheville. We just lost a game. Nothing like that to get the focus back and go out and kick some arse.
 
docsu said:
Great I wasn't worried before.

Anyway this comes with the territory when you're the first #2 to lose to a 15. I will say it still gets me that the media considers 2005 to be some legendary upset. Vermont over Syracuse wasn't even the biggest upset THAT DAY.
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Vermont was mis-seeded and should have been an 11 seed that year. They had a 21 RPI that year (people can go look it up if they dont believe me) and were given a 13 seed. Why they were bumped to a 13 I have no idea. That team had played in the NCAA's before and were all upperclassmen. That gme was basically a 5-12 or a 5-11 game as opposed to a 4-13. People don't realize this. Throw them playing in freaking Worcester besides. Not excusing the loss but that was the best 13 seed in NCAA history.
 
690West said:
THIS is exactly why i'm not concerned about Asheville. We just lost a game. Nothing like that to get the focus back and go out and kick some arse.
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The pundits and the national audience want a 16 to beat a 1 so bad so they latch onto one that they think will happen. What they should be paying attention to is a couple of potential 2-15 upsets. Detroit vs. Kansas and Duke vs. Lehigh. I will guarantee that one of those teams will be on the ropes and wil have to pull it out in the final 5 minutes. Mark my words.
 
Marsh01 said:
Vermont was mis-seeded and should have been an 11 seed that year. They had a 21 RPI that year (people can go look it up if they dont believe me) and were given a 13 seed. Why they were bumped to a 13 I have no idea. That team had played in the NCAA's before and were all upperclassmen. That gme was basically a 5-12 or a 5-11 game as opposed to a 4-13. People don't realize this. Throw them playing in freaking Worcester besides. Not excusing the loss but that was the best 13 seed in NCAA history.
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And, I really think that having them as a first game matchup a few years apart has people thinking it was the year we were 1 and they were 16 that they beat us.
 
Marsh01 said:
Vermont was mis-seeded and should have been an 11 seed that year. They had a 21 RPI that year (people can go look it up if they dont believe me) and were given a 13 seed. Why they were bumped to a 13 I have no idea. That team had played in the NCAA's before and were all upperclassmen. That gme was basically a 5-12 or a 5-11 game as opposed to a 4-13. People don't realize this. Throw them playing in freaking Worcester besides. Not excusing the loss but that was the best 13 seed in NCAA history.
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We were overseeded as a 4 that year...
 
I'm still waiting for Manhattan to beat us in 2003 like Mike Greenburg predicted.
 
sabach said:
I'm still waiting for Manhattan to beat us in 2003 like Mike Greenburg predicted.
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Did that really happen? wow. i forgot about that.
 
docsu said:
Every projection I saw was us as a 3-4 seed.
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That was all based on our BET win. We did not have the greatest season up until that point, at least not to the level everyone was expecting with Warrick coming back as a Senior and Gmac as a Junior.
 
Marsh01 said:
Vermont was mis-seeded and should have been an 11 seed that year. They had a 21 RPI that year (people can go look it up if they dont believe me) and were given a 13 seed. Why they were bumped to a 13 I have no idea. That team had played in the NCAA's before and were all upperclassmen. That gme was basically a 5-12 or a 5-11 game as opposed to a 4-13. People don't realize this. Throw them playing in freaking Worcester besides. Not excusing the loss but that was the best 13 seed in NCAA history.
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Good post Marsh agree 100% on Vermont, was really hoping to avoid them in 05 and sure enough the committe stuck us with them. I think the reason some are giving Ashville a look as an upset are the reason you outlined for Vermont in 05. Senior laden team, prior Tourney experience, played several top D1 teams during the season. Now im not trying to say Ashville is on the level of Vermont in 05 but there are some similarities. Either way JB should play tape of the Richmond and Vermont games today and that should be all the reminder they need.
 
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