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The Downside!

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- I’m sure Duke has some calls the refs made that they aren’t pleased with, (especially #5 on Parker which was obviously huge). But three calls at the end of that game cost us a chance to wrap this one up earlier and more comfortably. Jerami Grant was about to haul in a rebound when he got leveled. In the scramble for the ball, we were called for a foul. Later CJ was running after a ball in the corner and got shoved in the back and went sprawling to the ground. We got the ball out of bounds but there was no foul. Then CJ got absolutely mugged in the final seconds of overtime. A foul was called but it should have been a flagrant foul, giving us two free throws with 5.5 seconds left and possession. Instead we had to sweat out that last possession.


- If it took this to beat a Duke team in serious foul trouble in our place, what’s going to happen at Cameron or in the ACC tournament. We are on a big high right now, describing this as a game we’ll always remember but how memorable will it be if the Blue Devils beat us in those games?


- To beat Duke you’ve got to cover the three. They hit 15 of 36, 42%. A lot of them were wide open although Duke had to work to get them. I think part of the problem was fatigue. We had little depth and had to cover 3-4 shooters at all times. We stopped 6 for their first 7 attempts, (and I’m call them stops because it was about defense). The rest of the half they were 5 of 9. In the second half we stopped 5 of their first 7, then gave up 7 of 9 the rest of the way.


- JB got Tyler Ennis 5 minutes of rest to give him a break from the constant Duke pressure. He also had Cooney bringing the ball up much of the time. Good moves. But when he wasn’t in there, the offense ground to a halt. Nobody wanted to shoot the ball.


- This was a one-cheek game. I sit on the end of a row and when we have a capacity crowd, there’s always one more person in my row than is supposed to be there and I wind up with half a seat to try to sit on. Some inside info: one cheek is more comfortable than 1½ cheeks.


- Some cops walked past me to get to a couple of fans about 10 rows up whom the escorted form the arena. One was dressed in a Duke T-shirt and the other guy was all in orange. Like CTO says, you can disagree without being disagreeable.
 

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I thought the offense did fine when we gave Tyler a rest in the first half, no complaints here. If I'm not mistaken we were up 5 or 6 before we subbed 3 guys back in with one of them being Ennis.

The biggest downside I see is having to play a game Monday. No time to savor the huge win! Not to mention the chance of a let down.
 

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Every time they needed a three, they got one. Every time they needed an offensive rebound they got one, too. That probably had something to do with long rebounds from deep shots.

Something needs to be done to prevent the Duke guards from getting so many wide-open to minimally-contested threes (at the most inopportune times it seemed like). We will not survive another game if Duke makes 15 three-pointers, especially at Cameron. I wouldn't count on Parker or Jefferson to be out, either.
 

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Every time they needed a three, they got one. Every time they needed an offensive rebound they got one, too. That probably had something to do with long rebounds from deep shots.

Something needs to be done to prevent the Duke guards from getting so many wide-open to minimally-contested threes (at the most inopportune times it seemed like). We will not survive another game if Duke makes 15 three-pointers, especially at Cameron. I wouldn't count on Parker or Jefferson to be out, either.

I think we need our guards to stop being drawn into the guy at the foul line and stay out on the Duke guards.
Duke's bigs were not taking any shots form the foul line at all.
 

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I think we need our guards to stop being drawn into the guy at the foul line and stay out on the Duke guards.
Duke's bigs were not taking any shots form the foul line at all.
Duke ran the same play at least 10 times where the guard at the top of the key enters the ball to a player inside the paint near the FT line and each and every time both of our guards turned and fell back into the paint to defend leaving a Duke shooter wide open at the top of the key. I kept hoping we'd adjust but we didn't. The guards have to stay up on the 3 pt line with the shooters and not fall back. Duke isn't beating us with 2 point shots. Hope we adjust for the rematch.
 

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I think we need our guards to stop being drawn into the guy at the foul line and stay out on the Duke guards.
Duke's bigs were not taking any shots form the foul line at all.

I would let them take the foul-line jumper all day. They would need to shoot 50% higher percentage from two than three to do the same damage.

Assuming in those situations that the guards prevented a pass to the perimeter and the foul-line guy was forced to make a play, Parker, Jefferson or whoever else would be there would need to have made 63% of their shots to do the same damage as they did from three today (that's from their total three-point percentage; in those foul-line to perimeter situations they probably made 50% or greater which would require the foul-line guy to make 75% from two).

Parker shoots 76% from the foul line and Jefferson shoots 48% completely uncontested. Who knows how much they would get fouled if they drove, but Duke would probably not get as many offensive rebounds from shorter shots. I would also take my chances with Christmas and Grant defending the rim over Duke missing three-pointers.
 

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They had no problem getting open threes, even when the guards and one forward stayed on the perimeter. Great coaching, awesome execution.
 

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Not really concerned with whether we W/L in Cameron, or the ACC tourney. I'm spoiled by winning 25-30 games a year so that making the NCAA is a given. I'm sure diehards can remember individual Gtown games and Big East tourneys. Me, spoiled by JB, only remember the season by how we do in the NCAA tourney. This was a great win, I'm still buzzed. Now, lets stay healthy and acaemically eligible
 

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The achillis heel of this team is 3 pointers given up to the opponents and how porous the perimeter defense is at times. Despite giving up a bunch of 3's to Dook in this game, Syracuse was still able to sqweak out a 2 point win. If Parker and Jerfesson did not foul out, would the outcome be different? I have not re-watched the game to gather some stats, but I am curious how many 3's were given up when Gbinije was in the game? How many times did the Duke gaurds penetrate the lane and kick out for an open 3 when Gbinije was in the game? Granted Syracuse won the game and this may come out as a criticism, but just making a point about how much better the perimeter defense is when Gbinije is the game.
 

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The achillis heel of this team is 3 pointers given up to the opponents and how porous the perimeter defense is at times. Despite giving up a bunch of 3's to Dook in this game, Syracuse was still able to sqweak out a 2 point win. If Parker and Jerfesson did not foul out, would the outcome be different? I have not re-watched the game to gather some stats, but I am curious how many 3's were given up when Gbinije was in the game? How many times did the Duke gaurds penetrate the lane and kick out for an open 3 when Gbinije was in the game? Granted Syracuse won the game and this may come out as a criticism, but just making a point about how much better the perimeter defense is when Gbinije is the game.

Dont' have any exact stats, but if I recall correctly, we actually built a lead against Duke in the first have when Gbinije and Roberson were in.
Definitely got quality minutes from the bench in the first half yesterday.
 

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