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Jim Boeheim’s radio show is on Thursdays, (Wednesdays until the Dino Babers Show ends) from 7-8 or 9PM on ESPN Radio in Syracuse, which is AM1200 or FM 97.7 on the dial. The show is at Carrabba's Italian Grill at 550 Towne Drive, Fayetteville, NY. The first hour, hosted by Matt Park, the Voice of the Orange, is on their general network. The second hour, which usually begins with the conference season, is hosted by Gomez, a local radio personality. Last year they did a third half hour segment on Twitch.
Their schedule: Americu Jim Boeheim Show Starts Nov. 9 - Syracuse University Athletics

You can call into the show locally at 315-424-8599 or nationally at 1-888-746-2873. For Gomez’s portion, use 315-424-8599. Or you can submit questions from this page:
Submit a Question! - Syracuse University Athletics
Or on Twitter at https://twitter.com/MattPark1 or https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskBoeheim?src=hashtag_click

The show can be heard in Syracuse on FM 99.5. It’s sometime simulcast on AM 1200 or FM 97.7. You can also get it on: TuneIn | Free Internet Radio | Live News, Sports, Music, and Podcasts
There’s now a third segment where Jim and Gomez can be seen on camera at:
The early shows tend to be in a one-hour format. I'll post a summary of them the same night. When they do two hour shows. I will do two posts: the Matt Park segment the night of the show and the Gomez segment the next day.




MY QUESTIONS/COMMENTS

For the Matt Park Segment:

“Coach, Jim Satalin said after the Virginia game that “at least this proves we have a good team. We have played some good teams close but is there such a thing as “learning how to win’’? If so don’t you have to do that first before you are a good team?”

For the Gomez segment:

“Coach, two point field goal percentage has been one of the best predictors of victory over the years. Against Virginia Tech, they hit 68% of their two point shots and we hit 50%. Against Virginia they hit 48% and we hit 64%. (Unfortunately, we hit 20% of our three pointers to 43%.) Is that a difference in scheme, in talent, in experience or in effort?”

(For the third segment on Twitch I’ll improvise a question or two after listening to the rest of the show.)



COACH BOEHEIM
(I have, in some instances, put together statements from different parts of the broadcast on the same subject. The quotes may not be verbatim –they are from my scribbled notes. I have not knowingly changed the meaning.)

The controversy sure upped the ratings for this show. I called at the usual time and was the third caller on the show with more guys right behind me.

But before Jim got them, he went off on his critics. Matt asked how he was doing. “Not good. I’m not happy to lose games. I’m upset after close losses. I’m not paid to be happy. It bothers me when people lie. As I answered him he made a face. If anybody thinks that was bullying, they don’t know what bullying is. I’ve answered 98% of the questions for 47 years. After North Carolina, that was a bad question. We'd closed out Notre Dame and were never ahead of North Carolina. Closing the game had nothing to do with it.” [I always thought it meant how you played in the final minutes of a close game.]

“The principles of a press conference are that you can ask any question you want and I can answer any question I want. I’m allowed not to answer. Do you expect the head coach to be happy after losing 4 games in a row?” [We won at Georgia Tech.] “The Clark play was illegal, (the guy passing to him had stepped out of bounds). I'm not going to be happy. It's not my job to be friendly and nice, just to answer the questions. I’m not going to be really happy in a press conference after a game like that.”

“Countless students have told me that they learned more form my press conferences than from their classes: they have to be prepared and have their facts straight.”

“Benny is back at practice. We’ve bene playing pretty good. People thought we’d win 16-18 games. We lost to Colgate, a very average Bryant team and Illinois. We’ve seen unbelievable improvement since. It’s a tough league. Virginia Tech is a good team and they are 3-9. North Carolina hasn’t been great in this league. Boston College beat Virginia Tech and Clemson. There are no easy games.”

The first caller was North Syracuse but it wasn’t me. Mark in North Syracuse begged Jim not to leave. “We’re hanging in there against top teams. Rock on!” JB: “We’ve had years before where we had to scrape out an NIT bid. We knew it would be a hard year. People have to understand the tremendous influence of the portal in our league. Wake Forest, Clemson, Pittsburgh and Miami. It’s freshmen vs. 5th year players. That makes it really tough. We’re going to need more experienced players. I’d like to keep the core group together but you never know who will leave. We’ve been contacted but it wasn’t possible to bring in a transfer. Everybody knew that Jesse and Joe and Judah would start. Benny was a 5 star and we had good players for the other spot. You add and subtract every year.”

“We did some good things against Virginia but you cant go 3/15 from three and miss 7 free throws and make turnovers we don’t normally make and except to win.”

Joey in Syracuse was asked how he was doing. “I’m maintaining. How are you?” [Can I have a puff?] “I hope you’re enjoying your meal.” JB: “I’m having chicken soup. It’s very under-rated.” Finally: “I saw no need for you to apologize for defending what you believe in.” [Is that what he did?] JB: “There’s always critics and somebody who will give them the chance. We’ve been down a little bit but it’s been a pretty good run in 47 years here.”

I called in question one about this team needing to learn how to win. [None of my questions was precisely answered.] I joked that I hoped the chicken soup had mellowed him. JB: “I’m always mellow, except after a bad loss. The definition of a good team could be interpreted differently. Playing #15 Miami close at Miami was a pretty good performance. We had a pretty good chance to beat #7 Virginia. Are we a top 24 team? No. We make too many mistakes you shouldn’t make and the others teams have made some big plays late in games. Gardner and Clark are 5th year players. Our freshmen played great games.”

Michael in Charlotte: “You’ve done a lot to deserve respect from the fandom. We’ve gone nine years without playing a conference game as a ranked team. You haven’t changed much about the team. Remember when Rocky learned from Apollo Creed? The zone gives players of inferior talent a chance to get a good shot.” JB: “That’s not a true statement. Zones are designed to take that away. With man-to-man you have to spend two hours in practice. We just weren’t good enough at it. In my judgement, we’d have won 5 games if we’d played man-to-man. When a new coach comes, he can try man-to-man and that’s fine. I don’t think we’d be good enough to win.”

“In those nine years we had success at the end of the season 4-5 times. If there had been no tournament or no success in them, I’d be gone. You have to look at the total year, not the first 10-20 games.” [Which is part of the whole season.] “Don’t evaluate based on rank. That’s nothing. Coach P had 5-6 years where he wasn’t ranked. He won 70% of his games here and went to 6-7 bowl games. It wasn’t good enough, but things haven’t been good since.”

We’ll add a couple of players in the off season. I think we are 6th in conference wins over those 9 years. Ahead of us were Duke, North Carolina, Virginia, and Florida State going to Final Fours and winning national championships”. [Florida State?] “We’ve been good enough to make the tournament in most years.”

A caller named Trevor wanted a Buddy and Jimmy update. [They had one last week,] “Buddy is having a solid year, shooting 38-40% from three. Jimmy had been playing on the worst team in Greece. They won only one game and that was on a ¾ court shot. But it was good to have experience in their A league. Now he’s on the second best team in the Czech Republic. He’s a 30 minute drive from Prague, one of the most beautiful cities in Europe. Playing in Europe is a journey. You have to play your way up. He likes it there.”

Jeff in Oswego: “Thanks for everything. Bill Parcells gave my favorite press conferences of all time. (JB laughed). I’m not sure why the press feels entitled to information about the players.” [Because they are representing the public.] JB: “The media are the most sensitive people in the world. Then there are the callers who call in a kill Joe Girard, who has been a good player for four years here. Then they complain about what I said. It’s hypocrisy.”

Another caller, (didn’t get the name) congratulated the coach on “a good effort vs. Virginia” and predicted that Syracuse “will be dangerous in the tournament”. JB: “We have a long way to go. We’re normally thinking about the tournament this time of year. It’s really hard to lose games early. We’ve got to put something together. We know we can do it but we haven’t.”

Josh in Boulder suggested that “when you bench a player he potentially be a better player when he gets a chance to get back into the game”. JB: “It happens in some cases. I don’t take starter decisions lightly. Bell and Taylor are very close. Malik was not quite as good as benny because of the shooting but Benny hasn’t played well and we need Malik’s rebounding. I started as a sophomore but then got benched. I worked hard and got back into the starting line-up. The same thing happened with Jason Hart and Allen Griffin.“ [Actually Hart preceded Griffin by a couple of years and started all four. Griffin was tried at the 2 but didn’t have the shot for it. Tony Bland displaced him but Alan came back as the starting point guard as a senior, replacing Hart and had a great year. No one ever questioned Alan’s effort or attitude.]
“Chris is very lackadaisical. He’s not a player coaches like. He’s a good shooter but I don’t see the effort. When he guess the ball and hands it to the other team, that’s inexcusable. You don’t survive that. Remember what happened to Wally Pipp. Justin Taylor made some shots but then missed a couple and I put Chris back in. Symir works very hard but Judah was the best player on the floor against Virginia.

Pete in Baldwinsville asked for a prediction on who the national player of the year is. “Zac Eaton of Purdue. He’s dominating for a dominant team.”

Kyle in Carthage wondered if Jim still puts his team up in a hotel the night before home games. The answer was no – it got too noisy. Now they use their apartments.

Matt did his tour of the ACC. Clemson missed 7 straight field goals at the end of their lost to Bosotn College. JB: “It’s hard to do that and win. BC played good defense. They’ve beaten Virginia Tech, Notre Dame and Clemson and lost to Duke by 1 point. Virginia Tech is 3-9 [actually 3-8] and there’s not much difference (between them and Virginia). Wake Forest has really played well. Duke is getting better.” Matt: North Carolina State’s Terquavion Smith made 6 straight threes. Louisville beat Georgia Tech for their first conference win. Pitt beat UNC in the Dean Dome for a sweep of the season’s series.” JB: “It shows the value of veteran guys. North Carolina got a good transfer in Nance but Manek was better. But remember- they struggled last year, too.”

On this day in 2003, we just lost to Rutgers on the Lamizana shot, (1/3) but come back to beat Pitt on Jeremy McNeil’s foul shots and – JB said not to forget this: his following dunk. “The rest is history”.

Gomez was out sick. Jim cracked that he gets sick whenever he wants a vacation), so Matt continued with the second hour. They had a discussion about the advantages people have working remotely from home and how people who drive in to work should get more money for the inconvenience.

Matt noted the coach was looking at a sheet of advanced stats. Jim commented that projecting the production of reserves over 40 minutes can be misleading because the sample is too small. [That screws me.] “It also doesn’t account for defense.”

Boston College “has a good defense. They really got in their (Clemson’s) face. Our game with them was close all the way. Benny hit a couple of jumpers for us. They have veteran guys. Quinton Post is strong inside. 4-5 teams helped themselves at the portal turned the league upside down. Notre Dame misses their center, Paul Atkinson, who had 25 and 16 against us last year. It’s a well balanced league.”

“Playing man-for-man is not even a consideration. You can’t just try it. You have to practice it over and over again. It’s like a steaks and chops chef being asked to do Italian cooking. We tried man-for-man all summer and fall and it was terrible. We went back to what we do well. Our defense hasn’t really beaten us.” [Except for the Virginia Tech game.] Our close losses were on the offense and missed free throws, as well as plays like the one where the Virginia player, (Ben Vander Plas) went out of bounds and came back in to pass it to Cruz for the big three.” They discussed how neither of them could see this until they watched the film but the referee was “right there”. Matt thought the rule was that you had to ‘establish yourself in bounds before you can touch the ball. Jim said that the rule was that you couldn’t be the next player to touch the ball.

I called my second question about what changed the two point field goal percentage around from Virginia Tech to Virginia. JB: “Our inside defense is not good enough. We’ve struggled with it for two years, especially when Jesse got hurt last year. Our perimeter defense has been Ok but overall we haven’t been good enough. Our shooting and ball movement have been good. We are rebounding better. Our turnovers are down, relative to whom we are playing.” Matt said that our game was only the second time Virginia had allowed an opponent to hit 50% of their shots this season.

Jim in Syracuse got off to a bad start. “With all due respect, I’m not a ‘know-it-all’.” He wondered why Jim pulled Bell out in the second half when he “opened things up for the offense and gave it a different feel. He was really feeling it!” JB was tolerant. “You have a good point. Taylor missed a couple of shots and then Chris hit one and got fouled. He had a couple of defensive miscues you may not have noticed. It was very, very close (between Bell and Taylor). On some points you could take another coach and he would go a different way. I don’t disagree with your point.”

Eddie in Rome “saw Taylor in the pre-game. He’s got the look.”
Dusty Springfield - The Look of Love
“He’s going to be a player”. JB: “He’s more of a two guard, where he’s good defensively. He’s over-matched at the forward sometimes.”

They twitched to Switch, err…. switched to Twitch.

Matt asked about the Saturday-to-Monday turnaround. JB: “We don’t talk about it. Virginia talked about their legs and they didn’t even have to go anywhere.” [?!? Virginia played BC at home Saturday and then came here. Tech played us in Blacksburg Saturday and played at Miami on Tuesday.] “We got home at 2 in the morning (on Saturday). We should have played in the afternoon.”

On poster suggested there was a “silver lining to competing with ranked teams”. JB: “Certainly it’s a better than losing by 15 but there’s nothing to like in losing”.

I asked if, when coaches make announcements about their players at news conferences, they need to be prompted to do so by someone from the athletic department to do so, such that the failure to do that Monday night was the real problem. JB: “He caught me by surprise when he asked me the question. Then I realize the information had not been released so I answered it. Then the made a face.” I asked what the face looked like but got no response.

Jim continued talking about the previous week’s question about closing out games, referring to the Notre Dame and Georgia Tech games as successful close-outs, [against bad teams]. “There’s a conception that you are supposed to be nice and smile after a gut-wrenching loss. I’m not a diplomat.” [No, you aren’t.] “You want to win any game. When you don’t, it’s crushing. I’m not teaching a class. I don’t need to be patient. If it had bene released earlier I would have simply stated that we already answered that. Benny’s father asked for a personal day for his son. Benny hasn’t played well. Malik has bene the better player on the court. You have to decide you’re going out there and show ‘em.”

They had a golf discussion. Phil Michelson said that the Liv tour golfers, playing under Ryder Cup rules, would sweep the PGA’s best. Jim pointed out that they hadn’t won any of the tournaments they’ve bene in with the PGA golfers but said ti would be a highly viewed event. “They will figure out a way o get them into the majors – or they wouldn’t be majors. The LIV tour is the best thing ever to happen to golfers. It won’t go away with Saudi backing – it’s decimal point to them. But the PGA was keeping all that money away from the golfers. Kevin Roy, (Jim Roy’s son) has joined the tour and will make a minimum of $500,000 this year. JB was asked for his favorite local courses. He mentioned several, including Green Lakes, Turning Stone, Cooperstown and 7 Oaks, (“the one at Colgate”).

A poster named Edna said that there was ”no need for the media at the games”. Jim disagreed. Another asked him how often he talks to Coach Jim Calhoun. “Not in a couple of years.” He did talk to Coach K a couple of weeks ago. Doe she ever listen to Rony Seikaly’s radio show? Yes. Jim said that Rony makes $75,000 A NIGHT spinning those records. The top disc jockeys get $100-200,000 a night.” Jim’s memories of Stevie Thompson are the alley-oops he got from Sherman, one from mid-court. [I’ll always remember the ‘hike’ against Indiana in ’88.] “He couldn’t shoot and yet he still averaged 12-14 points a game. Stevie used to make 80 free throws in a row once he got in a rhythm – but he would miss 5 of his first 120 and that’s what he did in games.”

They talked about Billy Packer. “Packer, McGuire and Enburg was the best broadcasting crew ever, even over Sean McDonough, Bill Raftery and Jay Bilas. Billy was also an excellent businessman and ran several of them when not broadcasting games.

What’s the toughest place to play in on the road.? Jim quoted Louis Carnesecca: “Where they have the best players.”

Judah’s shooting is getting better. “He’s making 15 footers and his free throws. He’s got to be square to the basket and improve his hand position.”

The biggest challenge for the next coach will be to “get NIL down. We lost a couple of football players because of it. Teams have been able to pick up 2-3 experienced players and catch the top teams. You can’t do that with freshmen. The top teams always stayed on top because of that. That’s why they’ve got to expand the tourney. The talent is evening out and the top teams can be beaten. Twelve different teams have beaten #1 or #2 ranked teams this year.”
 
Wow. Just wow.

Gonna leave the media stuff alone except to say that a 78 year old HOF coach cannot fly off the handle because a reporter made a face. That sounds like a 7 year old, not a 78 year old.

This entire episode once again shows how dug in he is and will not leave until he is good and ready - unless JW or the BOT does something it doesn’t seem they are prepared to do.

Otherwise, he constantly contradicts himself. Defense has not been the problem, but we are not good enough defensively. The only game we lost because of perimeter defense is VT (Colgate says hello). We lose games because of offense but our ball movement and shot selection is good. The league is bad but it’s a tough league. You need veterans through the portal but (according to what I’ve read here) he had no desire to hit the portal hard.

How he plays JT makes no sense. If they seem him as a 2, why does he get most of his run as a 3 when there are 4 other forwards in the roster who get minutes and when you can argue that as a frosh, in theory he is as physically weak as he will be during his entire career - so let’s put him down low in the zone? Now he will be a year behind in learning how to play the top of the zone. Clearly he’s not as good as JG or Judah but

JB says stuff, I know. But it’s just getting so tiresome, both the product on the court and his ultra defensive justifications for everything.

Sounds like someone grasping at straws. The team has definitely improved I’ll give him that. But its ceiling is much lower than what he led us to believe in the preseason.

I will never stop watching or cheering for the team. But it’s getting so tiresome.
 
SWC — thanks for your excellent report!

People expecting JB to change how he handles press conferences after a loss? Not going to happen. It isn’t his strength, never will be.

Given the group he assembled (with apparent limitations), the coaches deserve some credit for how the team has competed. They have improved. Not enough to close games, just enough to keep us watching and hoping.
 
Great write up Steve

We need more experienced players, it's freshman vs 5th year seniors, no duh! A little late to come to that realization. Does JB not have a scholarship distribution by class year and position chart on his wall in his office?

We knew it would be hard and tough, I thought he proclaimed we're a tournament team in the preseason? Yikes, I'm starting to question his fitness for duty. Hammer me if you want but the numbers don't lie when you look at win percentage decline.
 
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The man’s been a great coach, but he’s so dam sensitive about any kind of criticism. It’s been his biggest downfall. After 47 years he hasn’t changed and never will. Why should he? The people in charge have done nothing to try to improve his interaction with the media or anyone else. He believes everything he says. It’s just who he is. It’s probably why he’s been so successful.
 
“ People thought we’d win 16-18 games.”
- JAB

NO. Child, please.

YOU personally said this was an “NCAA team”,
AND “your best recruiting class EVER”.

It’s been abundantly clear all season that neither of these things is remotely true.

Virtually EVERY non-JAB person on the planet saw that we desperately needed an experienced scoring Forward from the Portal.

Except Jim.
Ima roll with 4 completely inexperienced dudes at Forward, and -
what could possibly go wrong?

Just imagine how much worse things would be if Maliq was the project many people suspected, rather than the excellent glue guy he is?

J-Bone, it’s time.
You need to retire ASAP.
Like, literally now, but right after we lose our last game of this season works too.
 
Great detailed recap as always.

Lot of errors and contradictions in there. You can’t expect the details to be perfect every time during a show where you are answering questions and throwing out a lot of “past” information (like records/etc), but certainly some comments that make me pause.
 
Nice to see former posters get in questions.

I don't disagree with some of the student media stuff. If the pressers toughen them up for real work down the line so be it.
 
Nice to see former posters get in questions.

I don't disagree with some of the student media stuff. If the pressers toughen them up for real work down the line so be it.
Are we sure they are all former?
 
“We tried man-for-man all summer and fall and it was terrible.”

That’s like a Wall Street banker saying he tried all year to figure out how to use a debit card but it was terrible so he went back to cash.
 
JB: “It looks more and more like as you move forward that you’re going to have some freshmen,” he said, “but you better have experienced players, whether they’re your own or you bring ‘em in from the outside. You’re gonna have to have that.”


Ya don't say Jim?! I can't believe he's just now seeing how much of a necessity it is to use the transfer portal..
 
Yes I am sure JB is concerned about the educational process of our student journalists. That is why he is condescending and arrogant towards them.

He's been like that to adults.

Only point is kids / young to do learn from stuff like that. Eventually they'll have a job where they get punched and will have to deal.
 
“We tried man-for-man all summer and fall and it was terrible.”

That’s like a Wall Street banker saying he tried all year to figure out how to use a debit card but it was terrible so he went back to cash.
Is it really?

When I look at the make up of this team, I can easily believe they would be more terrible trying to play M2M (even in short spells) than they are playing zone and press. Not just during pre-season but regardless of continuing to practice.

And I am one who wants more M2M with the right guys and our next coach. Just not this bunch.
 
“ People thought we’d win 16-18 games.”
- JAB

NO. Child, please.

YOU personally said this was an “NCAA team”,
AND “your best recruiting class EVER”.

It’s been abundantly clear all season that neither of these things is remotely true.

Virtually EVERY non-JAB person on the planet saw that we desperately needed an experienced scoring Forward from the Portal.

Except Jim.
Ima roll with 4 completely inexperienced dudes at Forward, and -
what could possibly go wrong?

Just imagine how much worse things would be if Maliq was the project many people suspected, rather than the excellent glue guy he is?

J-Bone, it’s time.
You need to retire ASAP.
Like, literally now, but right after we lose our last game of this season works too.

1) People have had issues with him forever, we all know that.
2) I agree with with you, above. Nothing I'm writing is in disagreement.
3) I don't get too worked up anymore, not because "it's who he is", but because he'll never get hit hard in the media, in a real way. All the stuff now is fluff.

To the last point, we are on a, what, 7 or 8 year down turn. A coach with two probations and one blown up transition and one "ironclad" plan and zero 2023 recruits (and featured his sons on a team that was below .500) is the full story and no one has written it, reported it, etc in an exhaustive manner.

It doesn't need to be mean-spirited, but that's the story. And now we have a benefactor that has befriended JB that is bringing random celebs to our basketball games and is diving into the NIL. Again, not bad, but adds a sheen of the bizarre to things.

He has comments that are nonsense or contradictory or bullying. There are no repercussions. Media, AD, etc. The repercussions are our wins and losses and the attendance going down. It's national media starting to take their turns at him and that will only continue to grow.

My only questions is if we continue our downturn, are those traits going to be magnified? Will he have some resolution? Who knows.

I hope this team can turn it around. I'd really like for JB to go out (whenever he does) on a high note. The man has been part of my life through my being a fan of Cuse bball my whole life. But it doesn't feel like that's where the train is heading. Fingers crossed.
 
I know some on this board will call many of us Boeheim haters or whatever, but listening to him recently, do you REALLY think everything is good? My gawd this is awful.

- Comstock captured it well (particularly with his Chad Johnson line... Child, Please). Jim continues to make the point that no one thought we would be any good this year as a way to get credit for where we are (or at least an attempt not to get criticism). Really, Jim? Really? Just maybe there is something that YOU could have done to put us in a much better position this year.

- Related to my first point, Jim keeps referencing how we're struggling or not winning at times because we have a bunch of freshmen. Uh, okay Jim. Not many dispute that but what he fails to either understand or admit is that HE is the one responsible for the current makeup of our team. Again, please.

- His comment about the next coach can try playing man to man and see if he can do better... uh, yeah, I'm 98% sure the next coach will, as 98% of coaches in America don't rely on zone 100% of the time.

- Some of the callers on this show are just enabling his crap. That's part of the problem. If you surround yourself with people who mostly just tell you what you want to hear, you don't change. I don't know what the people close to Jim are saying, but I can only imagine for him to continue doubling down on his ignorance.

That all said, I'll be primed and ready for the game tomorrow. Regardless what I currently feel about Jim, I'm still a diehard fan. I don't have quite the fire that I used to have, but still full of orange love.
 
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Nice to see former posters get in questions.

I don't disagree with some of the student media stuff. If the pressers toughen them up for real work down the line so be it.
The students are fine -- they don't care (speaking as one who got yelled at by Boeheim).

However, this has been a broadcast student so as a DO alum, I agree he sucks hah
 
I just can't get worked up over these things. He says crazy stuff all the time and, as mentioned a ton in this thread, just continues on with no repercussions.
For me the people who are starting to wear this more and more are those charged with overseeing what is the best interest of the Athletic Department and the school. I dismiss JB's comments as nonsense from a guy at the tail end of a great career that won't accept it's over. The people in charge are in the prime of their career, and this is going to end up leaving a mess.
 

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