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I really don't like Paulie on Orange Nation and he is going to be unbearable on Monday
 
On the one hand, we played like trash in the second half and didn't finish enough drives in the first half to put it out of reach. On the other hand, we did all that against an ACC team and won.

They obviously have to clean that stuff up before the NC State game. But there's no game on the schedule this team can't win, and there's only one game on the schedule that they should be large underdogs. 'Cuse has given Clemson a scare down there before, too.

On the other hand, if they play like this every week there's a chance they start 5-0 and end up with only 6-7 wins.
 
Penalties, no run game, turnovers, injuries, couldn't stop the run near the end of the game, started missing tackles near the end too, QB got sacked alot, red zone failures and we still won. I love it! Since when do we overcome something like all that vs. anybody and win? It is great I tell you!
 
We’re off this coming week right?
And then we get Wagner? Seems like an optimal time to rest and work in some of the younger guys to get more 1st team reps. And even work in some on the second team to get them exp. We saw that it’s needed.
 
We’re off this coming week right?
And then we get Wagner? Seems like an optimal time to rest and work in some of the younger guys to get more 1st team reps. And even work in some on the second team to get them exp. We saw that it’s needed.

No. Wagner is this Saturday 10/1 at 5pm. Then we’re off.
 
No. Wagner is this Saturday 10/1 at 5pm. Then we’re off.
If the injured are questionable we rest them all game and if we’re good to go we’re good to go. But I want a 50 something to nothing win. Throttle down and roll them. Some of the key pieces shouldn’t see the 4th and even probably some of the 3rd.
 
1. I love Garrett Williams.
2. We need to figure out how to run the ball. Switch it up. Run outside. Idc do something. 2 weeks in a row of basically 2 yards per carry. That's atrocious.
3. I love Oronde Gadsden II
4. Shrader, for the love of all that is holy please stop running backwards. Throw the ball away. Take a shorter sack. idk.
5. I'm gonna choose to enjoy being 4-0 (5-0) instead of focusing my energy on a terrible half of football. As a fan I am allowed to do this.
 
Having stepped back, enjoyed the win, slept a few hours, blah, blah, blah,...

- SU knows how to gut out a win, regardless of appearances, winners must find ways to gut out wins. You can't always slaughter your opponents.
- Tony White has a solid defense, mostly. Depth on the DL would be nice. Stopping the run must be a focus, I know that injuries have impacted this to some extent, but football is a sport where injuries are expected.
- The DBs came to play! Once again, the DBs have slowed and stopped a high powered QB with legit receivers. Three top QBs down. This is a must because SU faces other top QBs as we face the meat of the ACC schedule.
-The receivers are stepping up. Orande Gadsden is separating himself from the pack. Others are working themselves open. There are still some issues with others, but I see them improving (CJ working to get open, needs to watch ball into hands; Alford using his body to his advantage more, needs to focus on the catch)
-Running game is suspect, not opening holes, but Tucker looks like he has a nagging injury that hinders his explosiveness, just an opinion, not worth a fight. Regardless, defenses must play heavy in the bax to ficus on Tucker, even if he does not rack up yards, he draws defenders away from the plays. And when the defense let's up on him, he gashes them for 5+ yards.
- Staying with Tucker, he looks much improved out of the backfield in Anea's offense. A safety valve pass is punitive to the defense and can move the ball, usually move the chains, and can break free for more YAC at any moment. Even with my perceived lessened explosiveness in the backfield, in open space, Tucker can devastate a defense.
- Shrader let some plays on the field. I am starting to buy into the possibility that he is/was sick or injured. His decisions were not up to par, nor was his running. Beck was visibly upset with Shrader. He also was telegraphing passes so he wasn't checking down his receivers. We saw several times where he forced a pass and had a wide open receiver elsewhere on the field. And who can forget the pick thrown to a waiting defender. This simply is not Shrader play, he has shown much better play. Further, the O-line mostly protected him sufficiently, combined with his movement to keep plays alive long enough to develop, this isn't the last two years where defenders were on top of the QB as soon as he caught the snap. Sharader also had many times when he could have run but didn't take off, nor was he as quick when he did take off. Regardless, the kid still had a serviceable decent game, kept his cool, marched downfield on several drives against a stingy defense (that also knows our OC rather well), and executed the winning drive a second week in row, kudos must be granted. Heal up, Shrader, whatever the problem.
- UVA deserves a lot of credit for their defense. They have been stingy through four games and they did not give SU a break. They did not allow Tucker to run free, which I believe would have allowed SU to dominate the game. I am glad their defense came up short, for the record.
- UVA's offense still has potential weapons. The new HC was stupid for not trying to keep Anae and Beck, Armstrong's drop-off proves this point, as do the receivers. Their focus on forcing a running game was opportune having lost Thomas at MLB and seeing the weaker run stop in the Purdue game. Still, their new HC's offensive prowess seems better assessed by GBO than by the talking heads who believe he will out produce the Bronco Mendenhall teams.time will tell, but I am believing GBO right now.
- Special teams: Szmyt happens, can more be said? Compare with two missed FGAs and amassed PAT. Granted, the two FGAs were career longs, but the kid was in the Dome, he is not likely to find better kicking conditions anytime soon.

All of that to say 4-0! GO ORANGE!
 
Having stepped back, enjoyed the win, slept a few hours, blah, blah, blah,...

- SU knows how to gut out a win, regardless of appearances, winners must find ways to gut out wins. You can't always slaughter your opponents.
- Tony White has a solid defense, mostly. Depth on the DL would be nice. Stopping the run must be a focus, I know that injuries have impacted this to some extent, but football is a sport where injuries are expected.
- The DBs came to play! Once again, the DBs have slowed and stopped a high powered QB with legit receivers. Three top QBs down. This is a must because SU faces other top QBs as we face the meat of the ACC schedule.
-The receivers are stepping up. Orande Gadsden is separating himself from the pack. Others are working themselves open. There are still some issues with others, but I see them improving (CJ working to get open, needs to watch ball into hands; Alford using his body to his advantage more, needs to focus on the catch)
-Running game is suspect, not opening holes, but Tucker looks like he has a nagging injury that hinders his explosiveness, just an opinion, not worth a fight. Regardless, defenses must play heavy in the bax to ficus on Tucker, even if he does not rack up yards, he draws defenders away from the plays. And when the defense let's up on him, he gashes them for 5+ yards.
- Staying with Tucker, he looks much improved out of the backfield in Anea's offense. A safety valve pass is punitive to the defense and can move the ball, usually move the chains, and can break free for more YAC at any moment. Even with my perceived lessened explosiveness in the backfield, in open space, Tucker can devastate a defense.
- Shrader let some plays on the field. I am starting to buy into the possibility that he is/was sick or injured. His decisions were not up to par, nor was his running. Beck was visibly upset with Shrader. He also was telegraphing passes so he wasn't checking down his receivers. We saw several times where he forced a pass and had a wide open receiver elsewhere on the field. And who can forget the pick thrown to a waiting defender. This simply is not Shrader play, he has shown much better play. Further, the O-line mostly protected him sufficiently, combined with his movement to keep plays alive long enough to develop, this isn't the last two years where defenders were on top of the QB as soon as he caught the snap. Sharader also had many times when he could have run but didn't take off, nor was he as quick when he did take off. Regardless, the kid still had a serviceable decent game, kept his cool, marched downfield on several drives against a stingy defense (that also knows our OC rather well), and executed the winning drive a second week in row, kudos must be granted. Heal up, Shrader, whatever the problem.
- UVA deserves a lot of credit for their defense. They have been stingy through four games and they did not give SU a break. They did not allow Tucker to run free, which I believe would have allowed SU to dominate the game. I am glad their defense came up short, for the record.
- UVA's offense still has potential weapons. The new HC was stupid for not trying to keep Anae and Beck, Armstrong's drop-off proves this point, as do the receivers. Their focus on forcing a running game was opportune having lost Thomas at MLB and seeing the weaker run stop in the Purdue game. Still, their new HC's offensive prowess seems better assessed by GBO than by the talking heads who believe he will out produce the Bronco Mendenhall teams.time will tell, but I am believing GBO right now.
- Special teams: Szmyt happens, can more be said? Compare with two missed FGAs and amassed PAT. Granted, the two FGAs were career longs, but the kid was in the Dome, he is not likely to find better kicking conditions anytime soon.

All of that to say 4-0! GO ORANGE!
Great post. Couple things to add:

1) Shrader really had lousy vision last night. Case in point- there were probably 5-6 passing downs where Tucker was wide open as a release valve/wheel route option out of the backfield. Not even considered. Lot to clean up in film, but those checkdowns would have resulted in positive yardage/kept the chains moving.

2) Barron was really active after his ejection- supporting his teammates and cheering them on. Great to see.

3) As said elsewhere, Geer was a monster last night on the DL. Really need Lockett back but there is some good young talent on the line. Also great to see Sparrow and Coley getting productive run under tough circumstances.

4) Bottom line is we are 4-0. After the last twenty years I am not feeling sorry for winning games ugly- much like your golf card, no one asks you how afterwards. Plenty to work on to fulfill our aspirations but an FCS opponent and a buy week come at the perfect time.

LGO!
 
IMO, we need to find a way to run the football. Tucker doesn’t have the burst he had last year. Yes D’s are keying on him but something else seems to be going on.
I love Sean Tucker, so this is not about him. Our offensive coaches must find ways to open up the ground game to spring our runners and produce a more balanced attack.
Garrett also struggled and wasn’t 100% in his reads and decision making. Hopefully, in our next game we can give our backups some more experience. We need depth at QB as well as RB and schemes that empower our run game!

Our D is loaded with tough guys who ball out every game!!!
 
Having stepped back, enjoyed the win, slept a few hours, blah, blah, blah,...

- SU knows how to gut out a win, regardless of appearances, winners must find ways to gut out wins. You can't always slaughter your opponents.
- Tony White has a solid defense, mostly. Depth on the DL would be nice. Stopping the run must be a focus, I know that injuries have impacted this to some extent, but football is a sport where injuries are expected.
- The DBs came to play! Once again, the DBs have slowed and stopped a high powered QB with legit receivers. Three top QBs down. This is a must because SU faces other top QBs as we face the meat of the ACC schedule.
-The receivers are stepping up. Orande Gadsden is separating himself from the pack. Others are working themselves open. There are still some issues with others, but I see them improving (CJ working to get open, needs to watch ball into hands; Alford using his body to his advantage more, needs to focus on the catch)
-Running game is suspect, not opening holes, but Tucker looks like he has a nagging injury that hinders his explosiveness, just an opinion, not worth a fight. Regardless, defenses must play heavy in the bax to ficus on Tucker, even if he does not rack up yards, he draws defenders away from the plays. And when the defense let's up on him, he gashes them for 5+ yards.
- Staying with Tucker, he looks much improved out of the backfield in Anea's offense. A safety valve pass is punitive to the defense and can move the ball, usually move the chains, and can break free for more YAC at any moment. Even with my perceived lessened explosiveness in the backfield, in open space, Tucker can devastate a defense.
- Shrader let some plays on the field. I am starting to buy into the possibility that he is/was sick or injured. His decisions were not up to par, nor was his running. Beck was visibly upset with Shrader. He also was telegraphing passes so he wasn't checking down his receivers. We saw several times where he forced a pass and had a wide open receiver elsewhere on the field. And who can forget the pick thrown to a waiting defender. This simply is not Shrader play, he has shown much better play. Further, the O-line mostly protected him sufficiently, combined with his movement to keep plays alive long enough to develop, this isn't the last two years where defenders were on top of the QB as soon as he caught the snap. Sharader also had many times when he could have run but didn't take off, nor was he as quick when he did take off. Regardless, the kid still had a serviceable decent game, kept his cool, marched downfield on several drives against a stingy defense (that also knows our OC rather well), and executed the winning drive a second week in row, kudos must be granted. Heal up, Shrader, whatever the problem.
- UVA deserves a lot of credit for their defense. They have been stingy through four games and they did not give SU a break. They did not allow Tucker to run free, which I believe would have allowed SU to dominate the game. I am glad their defense came up short, for the record.
- UVA's offense still has potential weapons. The new HC was stupid for not trying to keep Anae and Beck, Armstrong's drop-off proves this point, as do the receivers. Their focus on forcing a running game was opportune having lost Thomas at MLB and seeing the weaker run stop in the Purdue game. Still, their new HC's offensive prowess seems better assessed by GBO than by the talking heads who believe he will out produce the Bronco Mendenhall teams.time will tell, but I am believing GBO right now.
- Special teams: Szmyt happens, can more be said? Compare with two missed FGAs and amassed PAT. Granted, the two FGAs were career longs, but the kid was in the Dome, he is not likely to find better kicking conditions anytime soon.

All of that to say 4-0! GO ORANGE!
Shrader is starting to get a bit like DeVito with his unwillingness to throw the ball away and I am curious if it was less Tommy and more continued O-line PTSD
 

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