We were actually on the news this morning

[LAOrange]

Fox was debating whether the Instant Replay should be available because of the blown call. Why not extend the controversy to include the missed "over and back" at the end of the Marquette game in the tourney last year or any number of really bad calls during the Pitt and Notre Dame games this year? The controversy is why are are "certain" NCAA refs soooooo bad? Could it be because they work way too many games a week? lax disciplinary system? cronyism?

 

[orange03]

Every ref is going to miss foul calls, but a goaltending call that results in points is something that shouldn't be allowed. I don't know how the game would've turned out if the call was made, but WVU should've been given the opportunity to play it out.

 

[NKR1978]

Every ref is going to miss foul calls, but a goaltending call that results in points is something that shouldn't be allowed. I don't know how the game would've turned out if the call was made, but WVU should've been given the opportunity to play it out.

WVU was given an opportunity to play it out. They had a BS call give them the ball back with 6 seconds and we would have had no time to score.

 

[orange03]

WVU was given an opportunity to play it out. They had a BS call give them the ball back with 6 seconds and we would have had no time to score.

Justify it anyway you'd like. Fact is it should've been a tie game with 6 seconds left.

 

[NKR1978]

Justify it anyway you'd like. Fact is it should've been a tie game with 6 seconds left.

There were actually about 9.6 seconds left. WE were hosed with 6 seconds left. We would have had the ball with a tie game with 9.6 seconds left. Plenty of time to score.

 

[Orangezoo]

no not really, the missed out of bounds call prior that led to a k jones 3 was huge... all game wvu was slapping at rebounds.. it was an easy call that led to 3 pts for wvu.. also while we all watch the ball, the officials were having to watch for contact .. an airball is a tough shot to follow as it then comes down quickly and the official is watching for contact.. its still inexcusable but i can understand how given the chain of events. im not trying to justify , only trying to put it into perspective beyond a tv audience and a coach.

 

[orange03]

There were actually about 9.6 seconds left. WE were hosed with 6 seconds left. We would have had the ball with a tie game with 9.6 seconds left. Plenty of time to score.

You're right, my bad--and that's what should've happened. You can complain about the fouls called or not called all day long, but a non goaltend call cost WVU 2 points in a 2 point game.

If the situation were reversed, everybody on here would be crying.

 

[NKR1978]

You're right, my bad--and that's what should've happened. You can complain about the fouls called or not called all day long, but a non goaltend call cost WVU 2 points in a 2 point game.

If the situation were reversed, everybody on here would be crying.

We would be, and it wouldn't change a thing. Basketball would be ruined if it went to review the games already get too long with the fouling. It would be unwatchable if every call that could affect the score was reviewed.

And why are fouls less important than a goaltend? What about the out of bounds call that was out on Syracuse where no SU player was anywhere in the vicinity of the ball? There are 50 calls that affect the game. If this happened in the first minute no one would care.

 

[Orangezoo]

You're right, my bad--and that's what should've happened. You can complain about the fouls called or not called all day long, but a non goaltend call cost WVU 2 points in a 2 point game.

If the situation were reversed, everybody on here would be crying.

i am presuming you feel that we were not winning this game ? again how can you justify a bad call in the last 3 minutes but then hammer a different bad call? i suggest you quit focusing on when it happened.. thats the popular way to look at it i understand .. but missed calls impact the game every time they occur.. its a domino effect of change in circumstance.. if its not ok at the end we have every right to scream its not ok for the entire 40 mins

 

[orange03]

i am presuming you feel that we were not winning this game ? again how can you justify a bad call in the last 3 minutes but then hammer a different bad call? i suggest you quit focusing on when it happened.. thats the popular way to look at it i understand .. but missed calls impact the game every time they occur.. its a domino effect of change in circumstance.. if its not ok at the end we have every right to scream its not ok for the entire 40 mins

How can you not focus on when it happened? I'm glad we won, but WVU was cheated out of 2 points that would've tied the game with under 10 seconds left. That's a fact. Missed foul calls happen on both sides--it happens. A goaltending call directly involves points given or taken.

I have no clue how it would've played out, and neither does anybody else. But the game should've been tied with under .10

 

[jdubs30]

ESPNnews just called it "The Crime at the Carrier"

 

[AccuRater]

" It would be unwatchable if every call that could affect the score was reviewed."

The last 2 minutes of close games are already pretty much unwatchable. It's not basketball. It's "foul ball". Often takes 5-10 minutes. I'd rather the team that is fouled choose whether to go to the line or inbound under the other team's basket with a fresh 35 seconds. Fouls are supposed to be infractions for which you are penalized, not opportunities for the fouling team.

 

[Orangezoo]

How can you not focus on when it happened? I'm glad we won, but WVU was cheated out of 2 points that would've tied the game with under 10 seconds left. That's a fact. Missed foul calls happen on both sides--it happens. A goaltending call directly involves points given or taken.

I have no clue how it would've played out, and neither does anybody else. But the game should've been tied with under .10

we agree to disagree.. a bad call is a bad call and one does not outweigh another as both are equally devastating. add that to the fact that ball was not going in therefore it was a technical call . cnnsi picked up on wvu strealing the win vs cincy due to a missed technical foul.. it happens i agree but its silly to pick and choose.. how is the out of bounds call any different? keitas goaltend of a going to be misse layup is a chance taken away for points.. the ball given to wvu is a chance for points to wvu and taken away from su.. potentially up to a 6 point swing..

 

[Orangemen]

I would be absolutely fine if we won every game this way.

It's a win, couldn't care less how we got it.

This team does well when it's them against the world.

I hope the negative spin keeps up.

(Channeling my inner SWC) 22-1, and we don't need to apologize to anyone.

 

[marz09cuse]

How can you not focus on when it happened? I'm glad we won, but WVU was cheated out of 2 points that would've tied the game with under 10 seconds left. That's a fact. Missed foul calls happen on both sides--it happens. A goaltending call directly involves points given or taken.

I have no clue how it would've played out, and neither does anybody else. But the game should've been tied with under .10

And WVU was rewarded with 3 points by the refs calling the WVU out of bounds on Scoop, which he never touched. This too happened with under two minutes. Things have a way of evening their way out by the end of the game.

 

[orange03]

we agree to disagree.. a bad call is a bad call and one does not outweigh another as both are equally devastating. add that to the fact that ball was not going in therefore it was a technical call . cnnsi picked up on wvu strealing the win vs cincy due to a missed technical foul.. it happens i agree but its silly to pick and choose.. how is the out of bounds call any different? keitas goaltend of a going to be misse layup is a chance taken away for points.. the ball given to wvu is a chance for points to wvu and taken away from su.. potentially up to a 6 point swing..

Not going to argue with you, but for the life of me I don't understand how some can't grasp what happened. I don't care to play the what if game, all I know is the game should've been tied with under 10 left. Missed foul calls happen to both teams, and both teams always feel like they got the short end of the stick. A call directly affecting points is different.

 

[rrlbees]

Every ref is going to miss foul calls, but a goaltending call that results in points is something that shouldn't be allowed. I don't know how the game would've turned out if the call was made, but WVU should've been given the opportunity to play it out.

Live at the game on the floor, there were a few other no calls, including KJo being tackled that were FAR more obvious than the missed goaltend.

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[Noexcuse]

Maybe the Big East should weigh in on this one like they did with the missed field goal against Toledo. Tough call though on which side they would come down on for this one . . . . I mean we are both turncoats, but then there are degrees of turncoatism and maybe we look better in their eyes than WVU.

 

[orange03]

Live at the game on the floor, there were a few other no calls, including KJo being tackled that were FAR more obvious than the missed goaltend.

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Whatever makes you sleep better at night. You act like calls didn't go against WVU either. I'm not arguing that most refs today suck, they do. But to miss a goaltending call in that situation was criminal.

 

[NKR1978]

Whatever makes you sleep better at night. You act like calls didn't go against WVU either. I'm not arguing that most refs today suck, they do. But to miss a goaltending call in that situation was criminal.

How is missing an out of bounds call with less than 2 minutes to go that lead to a WVU 3 any less criminal?

 

[Cusefan95]

ESPNnews just called it "The Crime at the Carrier"

Interesting that they didn't have much to say about Syracuse getting screwed in the NCAAs last year. It didn't play to any meme they had working, so they basically ignored it.

This plays to the meme they've been working on(that Syracuse is over-rated), so they're making a big deal about it. Part of the reason why they're working that angle so hard this year is they've got folks rooting against Syracuse since we're "just like Penn State", again the perception because of a story they manufactured and created rather than reporting.

So, bluntly, ESPN can suck my dick. And then let Mark Schwartz breAthlessly report about it and let everyone know my stick is just as big as Ron Jeremy's.

 

[Orangezoo]

Not going to argue with you, but for the life of me I don't understand how some can't grasp what happened. I don't care to play the what if game, all I know is the game should've been tied with under 10 left. Missed foul calls happen to both teams, and both teams always feel like they got the short end of the stick. A call directly affecting points is different.

i do fully grasp what happened just as wvu im sure grasps they called a timeout against cincy they didnt have that the refs ignored and didnt call a technical. so regardless of what happened all that matters is one call and the game should be tied?

why not just only play the final ten seconds of the game if thats all that matters. im not trying to argue either just dont get why no call made in the first 39 minutes 50 seconds doesnt deserve the same scrutiny

 

[orange03]

How is missing an out of bounds call with less than 2 minutes to go that lead to a WVU 3 any less criminal?

I don't know that Scoop touched the ball or not. If he did and they missed the call that sucks but it happens. The fact WVU hit a 3 against our D is on us. Not the same as a goaltending call.

Maybe I'm just upset because I see us unraveling, regardless that's a call that has to be made 10/10 times.

 

[NKR1978]

I don't know that Scoop touched the ball or not. If he did and they missed the call that sucks but it happens. The fact WVU hit a 3 against our D is on us. Not the same as a goaltending call.

Maybe I'm just upset because I see us unraveling, regardless that's a call that has to be made 10/10 times.

Unraveling and still winning. Last year we long 6/8 games when the wheels came off including that SH game.

 

[orange03]

Unraveling and still winning. Last year we long 6/8 games when the wheels came off including that SH game.

No doubt--this team has a toughness to it, but still not good to see. Any team that slows us down will have a chance to beat us, especially given our rebounding and shooting woes.