Do we need a head coach?
A proven head coach, but not a knock out recruiter or a great recruiter with limited head coaching experience???
I think since it is in the end the players that actually win the games I would go with the "good recruiter"!!
And you?????
Mike London at UVa had a similar outcome, and of course Miami always has all kind of high recruiting talent, but they haven't been big winners in decades.Living in Minnesota and also following the Gophers program closely, I've seen a great recruiter with no head coaching or even coordinator experience whatsoever get the head coach job - Tim Brewster in 2007.
MN fans were very excited initially when recruiting improved greatly (a top 25 class in 2008) but when winning didn't happen, recruiting quickly went down to normal MN levels again. Brewster coached MN for 3 1/2 years and went 15-30 (6-21 in B1G). He is still made fun of in MN as a coaching disaster.
Give me a great coach with the known ability to coach up 2 and 3 star recruits into quality players. The Minnesota's and Syracuse's can't truly complete with the nations best teams for 4 & 5 star recruits especially in today's environment with NIL $ potentially taking your best players after a great season.
Absolutely.I wonder. Did Duke suddenly get a chit ton of high level recruits/players or was it excellent coaching, developing, coaching up, etc. the overall talent that he had? Texas A&M obviously thought the later and hired him in a heartbeat.
Additionally, any uptick in recruiting for SU is likely to be relatively small/marginal with anyone they have the ability/means to hire as their HC. Syracuse University hasn't really (even during our latest hey day of two plus decades ago) ever be able to get, let alone sustain, higher type level national recruiting classes, etc.
Therefore, every day of the week and twice on Sunday's, give me a coach that has all of those aforementioned attributes, etc. vs. not as much relative to his recruiting prowess. IMO, a coach like this can get us to that 7-4 type regular season on a more readily basis, especially in a average at best conference that is the ACC.
Mike McCallister mentioned Brown was under consideration first about 8 days ago.Didn’t Brown come out of nowhere? His name wasn’t even mentioned until Clark’s tweet yesterday morning. Have any of you considered the possibility that Brown was originally Mullen’s pick for DC?
In other words, we could have had both.
Mike McCallister mentioned Brown was under consideration about 8 days ago.Mike London at UVa had a similar outcome, and of course Miami always has all kind of high recruiting talent, but they haven't been big winners in decades.
What does this guy know about developing offensive lines?
Wildhack named Gary Gate the HC of mens lax. Maybe his name has helped get good recruits (a lot of them were already in the pipeline from Desko). But during games Gate doesn't do any coaching. He doesn't talk to other coaches or the players. It's like he's a sideline visitor, watching the coordinators try to run the team. Is this what we're going to get with Fran in FB?
Brown was not on the original list of coaches vetted by SU (Dan Mullen, Bob Chesney, Jason Candle, Charles Huff and Al Golden). That probably means the hiring process was not going very well - and SU likely had to reach down lower than their first 5 to find someone who would accept the job. Wildhack met Brown on Sunday in Atlanta, apparently after interviewing the other candidates.
I hope this works out. I'm out of patience waiting for someone within the SU FB program to get something right for once.
A proven program building HC like Bronco, but it doesn't matter bc they picked Brown, so I am all behind him now.A proven head coach, but not a knock out recruiter or a great recruiter with limited head coaching experience???
I think since it is in the end the players that actually win the games I would go with the "good recruiter"!!
And you?????
Doubt it. Jimmy Sexton never would have been a party to that. It is more likely IMO that Sexton called Beaudine and said I've got your guy.Didn’t Brown come out of nowhere? His name wasn’t even mentioned until Clark’s tweet yesterday morning. Have any of you considered the possibility that Brown was originally Mullen’s pick for DC?
In other words, we could have had both.
Do we need our football program stay at FBS level?Do we need a head coach?
This is where I am. I'm surprised by the people that think it's an either/or thing.Depends on so many things - I am a scheme/organization guy but obviously we need a talent influx. I think there are many examples of talent losing due to a bad scheme and a good scheme falling short due to bad talent.
This is a big swing and we needed it.